This is a list of Wild Mass Guesses which are still possibly true. Just for Fun and silly guesses go on the silly page. If a WMG is Jossed, please move it to the jossed page, if it is Confirmed, please move it to the confirmed page.
Please add new entries to the bottom of the page.
- Perhaps he's the son of Onoki's daughter, and Yagura the Mizukage. Why else would he sprout all these nonsense about "eternal youth" (Yagura) and have a turtle summon (Yagura)? Now if he were also related to the kages of the three other villages...
- If he was related to the kages of the other three villages, that would elevate him high on the social and political ladder. The Springtime of Youth would take over the world with thousands of mini-Guy's and Lee's. There'd have to be "cool and hip" rivals to inspire maximum youthfullness though...
- Naruto transformed the Boss Toad into a giant fox, while fighting Shukaku specifically because they needed something with huge claws.
- Naruto also transformed into one of his own techniques while fighting Pain.
- Well, there's Time Braid by... Shaper V, I think... in which the solid Henge is exploited. Very, what with Naruto turning into dragons and all.
- Given that Sasuke has Mangekyo, and knows the secret of controlling Kyuubi with it, it may be that SASUKE will be the final villain, with Naruto as his mindslave dragon.
- May not be that far off. Naruto went all the way to eight tails against Pain, and was just a few seconds off from gaining the ninth tail
- I always assumed Sasuke would be the final villain, but the story would steadily build up to Naruto finally being forced to kill his first, best friend for the sake of the world.
- Most likely he will be the Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds if that happens.
- Either that, or something will cause him to go into the Well-Intentioned Extremist route, which seems a far more likely outcome considering Naruto's character. In fact I'm calling it now, even with the Juubi defeated, its chakra would still break havoc in the world and leave enough negative effects to begin a decaying world situation a la ''Golden Sun''.
- If there's another timeskip, that's more than possible.
- Oddly enough, Kankuro reappeared and it appears that his new puppet is Sasori himself.
- Or, Orochimaru was working for Madara; As above but replace each instance of "fight" with "assist".
- Or Orochimaru was being manipulated the whole time. Would be funny.
- Or, Orichimaru knew about the True Origins of both the Senju and Uchia families, and was planning to create himself a body with both the Sharingan and the Mokuton bloodlines so that he can unlock whatever powers beside the Rinnegan that the Six Path Sage had.
- I respectfully disagree with ideas. I think that given blood relations between Nagato Uzumaki and Naruto Uzumaki, it's possible that Naruto simply inherited Bloodline Limit Rinnegan from Sage. However, it's possible that Nine-tails somehow suppressing Limit. Otherwise it's possible that Naruto indeed become that sort of badass.
- According to Madara, Nagato's Rinnegan isn't a random occurrence - the former somehow "gave" the eyes to the latter. Secondly, Sasuke already took Itachi's eyes to complete his Mangekyo. If we hypothetically allow that #1 is true (that giving Naruto the Sharingan would lead to the Rinnegan), the only way it'll ever happen is if Madara becomes the Final Boss one way or another. Sasuke will have a face-heel turn after confronting Naruto for the last time, and give his eyes to Naruto to aid him against Madara. Or something of that nature, seeing as how there are no other Uchihas left (Madara sure isn't going to donate his eyes to Naruto, and given the significance of his eye, Kakashi most likely won't either).
- The second point; approaching Konoha's walls from the outside, the area inside the walls is maybe a quarter-mile across; from inside, you can see miles of city from the top of Hokage Rock. Either the city is built partly into an alternate dimension or a standing genjutsu is used to make it smaller on the approach.
- OR, the city is a gigantic TARDIS that cannot be moved, because the owner, the first Hokage, had died, and he was the only one who knew how to use it. To answer the problem about his regenerations, he used them all up before he came there.
- While we're at it, what does the Troper Hive Mind think of the generally hit-or-miss attitude towards military discipline being justified by the Leaf shinobi being unionized?
- Come to think of it, the ninja organization is more like a guild than an army or even a corporation.
- We'll never really know now, will we?!
- Notice that, as Kakashi notes, only one third of the teams who take the Genin Exam become Chunin (the Rookie 9 are the only Genin from Naruto's year). Since it sounds unlikely for the other two thirds to remain in the academy every year, it seems as though the less talented ninja candidates would drop out and work various jobs in the city.
- It's also indicated in the fan book that not everyone can even get into the academy.
- Notice that, as Kakashi notes, only one third of the teams who take the Genin Exam become Chunin (the Rookie 9 are the only Genin from Naruto's year). Since it sounds unlikely for the other two thirds to remain in the academy every year, it seems as though the less talented ninja candidates would drop out and work various jobs in the city.
- Or alternatively, Naruto will stop wanting to be Hokage as a way to get respect from the village when he realizes he already has it.
- Under either of the above scenarios, he would then resign from the ninja corps and take over Ichiraku Ramen from the retiring Teuchi.
- He will then, presumably, eat himself out of business. It's like hiring an alcoholic to be your bartender.
- If memory serves, that worked out rather well on Cheers
- I am holding out for him opting to teach at the ninja academy; he's good with kids, and he of all people knows what it's like to be failed by the school system.
- Here's a crazy one: What if Sakura becomes Hokage, and Naruto marries her? Okay, I know it's a little far-fetched.... but come on. There's also the idea that Rock Lee could suddenly learn ninjutsu, become unstoppable, and then become Hokage.
- Finally, someone else who sees Sakura's potential as Hokage! It's not really all that implausible (unless you take into account that this is shounen so of course the hero is going to fulfill his dream) considering she was trained by the current Hokage herself and she's a lot smarter than Naruto. Granted, the Hokage is supposed to be the strongest ninja in the village, but seriously, Naruto's lack of knowledge about even the most basic mechanics of the ninja is astounding. And yet there isn't a single fan fic out there where she becomes Hokage.
- The problem with these two is that if we look at both the Kages as a whole and the governments of the villages it doesn't seem like intelligence and wisdom are really all that important to being Hokage. Even if you accept that Danzo didn't exist pre-time skip the two top candidates for Hokage were a wandering pervert and a wandering alcoholic problem gambler? These were the people who were best suited to lead? With Kakashi sitting right there? Pretty much every Jonin sans Might Guy is better suited to lead if leadership is inteligence based and not ass kicking equals authority. More than that lets look at the others. There is no way that a sixteen year old until very recently axcrazy Gaara is the most intelligent, wisest, best strategist in his village. Off the top of my head Konkuro has shown more maturity and strategic thought. If the Raikage and Mizukage are even in the top ten most mature/intelligent people in their respective villages then I weep for their people as both have been shown to be mostly emotional. When you factor in the councils and the fact that the Kage clearly are not as much in charge as they are figure heads it kinda comes together. Naruto is a great candidate. He's clearly the strongest in the village and at this point by a considerable margin as he was able to defeat Pain who had pretty much curb stomped the village at that point. He loves his village more than anything (why you would want your leader to be someone who wanders the land and can't be bothered to be home is beyond me) and just by being him he's effectively formed, as a genin no less, an alliance with two separate villages. Probably at least three at this point as I can't imagine the Raikage not being cool in the foreseeable future. He's also world famous and for both his strength and compassion. Who's going to attack a village that's guarded by or allied to Naruto?
- Wrong. See Garden of Sanctuary (already recommended on this site, no less, though Sakura isn't mentioned in the rec) and its companion Medusa Javelin. I admittedly hadn't thought about it before, but these stories only prove you right about her.
- If you look at their mentors, it makes sense. Jiraiya admits he's not really hokage material and suggests Tsunade in his place. (after she works on her issues) I think the analogy to Sakura and Naruto holds.
- In Episode 10, when Team 7 is doing the tree climbing, Kakashi suggests that Sakura, based on her chakra control, is better fit to be Hokage than Naruto is. Then again, he was probably just trying to get a reaction out of Naruto. Jiraiya also notes that part of the reason why he didn't want to become Hokage is because of his need to investigate Orochimaru and the Akatsuki, so when the time comes that Naruto could be considered for Hokage, not only will his current issues with Sasuke most likely have been resolved, but he may well be mentally ready (Orochimaru claims that Jiraiya is stupid, and he is shown acting like Naruto did in the bell training exercise).
- My theory is that Naruto will become Hokage in a Distant Finale that takes place 10-20 years after the end of the story, with his wife (in my potentially controversial opinion, Hinata- given her confession in Chapter 437, Naruto's reaction to her "death," and how Naruto's desire to change the clan would be facilitated by marrying the heir) and possibly children, and looking among the many friends he has in attendance, will make one last remark about how he didn't need to be Hokage to be accepted, but achieved that on the way to his goal.
- If so, would the kids possess small parts of the Kyuubi? Or will they be normal kids with the Byakugan and little whisker marks? (Well, about as normal as you can get with those traits.)
- About the Hokage!Sakura conversation, there's another fic out there with her in that role, Hokage By Necessity. She would definitely be a good Hokage.
- Under either of the above scenarios, he would then resign from the ninja corps and take over Ichiraku Ramen from the retiring Teuchi.
- Another option is that he's going to become something more, redefining what being a Ninja is about for everyone, and instead becoming something like "The Sage of Eight/Nine Paths"
- Now, given Sasuke wants to be Hokage, I can see Naruto "fixing" what the first Leaf generation did wrong and supporting Sasuke's bid, to give him a reason to care for the village unlike Madara.
- Confirmed... temporarily. Kakashi becomes Hokage for a while, then after roughly a decade gives up his seat for Naruto.
- Tsunade will probably die in the final battle, leaving the Hokage job open for Naruto to fill at the end of the series. Meanwhile, Kurenai is pregnant. My build on the theory: Tsunade will sacrifice herself to the Shinigami in order to seal whatever super-beast Akatsuki have been making into the newborn. This makes the series come full-circle, though Naruto will make sure the villagers aren't complete pricks this time around.
- You know she might just resign before she dies like the Third did.
- The Third didn't resign. He intended to keep playing Hokage for a number of years longer... then Orochimaru got his ass owned to him with the Shinigami. This was a heavily relevant plot point everyone knows, man.
- You might want to read again, buster. Hiruzen Sarutobi has already retired and appointed Minato Namikaze (Naruto's father) as the Fourth Hokage. He was only forced to come out of retirement because he's alive, and the position of Hokage is held permanently even if one is not active (a la The Chronicles of Narnia). THIS IS A MORE HEAVILY-RELEVANT PLOT POINT EVERYONE KNOWS, MAN.
- Jossed, though Tsunade did resign on her own terms.
- Confirmed. The main body of Katsuyu is most likely the largest being in the world, surpassing even the Juubi and the Turtle Island in size.
- Considering that ice itself is a combination of wind and water which can only apparently be made using the bloodline limit Haku had, I'd think it'd be easier to just say it's a special kind of earth release.
- Here's what we know about it as far as Elemental Rock-Paper-Scissors goes.
- Naruto's Wind/Water combo jutsu is effective
- Yamato's Wood jutsu (Earth/water) is ineffective
- Kakashi's Lightning Blade (Lightning) is effective
- Based on that evidence, I'd suggest it's a hybrid of Earth(since Lightning works well against it) and Lightning (since Naruto's Wind/Water jutsu worked well but Yamato's Earth/Water one did not). Hybrid jutsus tend to have one nature take dominance over the other when determining vulnerability; Sasuke's fire jutsus were useless against Haku's wind/water Ice jutsus, and Naruto and Yamato's wind/water combo defeated Kakuzu's wind-strengthened fire, even though it seemed as though Naruto's wind might make Kakuzu's fire even stronger (Yamato's Earth/Water jutsu is weak against both of the Crystal element's natures).
- It's highly possible that he knew the Minato, as Kushina was friends with his mother (as shown in chapter 500). Of course doing the Math, Itachi was only 5 when Minato died, so he couldn't have known him that well.
- It's a jutsu that binds you to certain death regardless of the number of people revived. Even with the Gedo Mazou statue sealed inside the user (something that would allow the user to live through something as traumatic as the extraction of all 9 tailed beasts due to its immense life energy), death is delayed, but guaranteed.
- Hang on, more fanon has erupted. For the fun of it, the Sharingan is matrilinial. Since Sasuke bears absolutely no resemblence to his father, we can assume that he gets most of his good looks from his mother. With the clan's fertility levels dropping out the wazoo, Mikoto gets permission to have a child from someone outside the clan. This explains the large age gap between Itachi and Sasuke (before they figured out this plan), and also why Fugaku is a little distant towards Sasuke, even if he's secretly proud of him.
- Five years is a large age gap? I'm five years younger then my sister, and five older then my brother. Same parents. Doesn't sound all that weird to me.
- It would also be keeping with the history of strained relations between the Uchiha clan and the rest of the village, and with Naruto's desire to break the vicious cycles of the world.
- Half-jossed. Naruto is now loved not only by the village, but the entire world; however, Sasuke is also respected, though he remains in the shadows.
- I think this is very likely, based on the pattern established throughout the generations. I read here that the team template is based off of a Toad-Slug-Snake pattern, where the toad is The Hero with a relatively lighthearted personality, the slug is The Heart who keeps the team together, and the snake is the Anti-Hero who seeks power. We see this pattern with the Sannin (Toad = Jiraiya, Slug = Tsunade, Snake = Orochimaru), Kakashi's team (Toad = Obito, Slug = Rin, Snake = Kakashi), Nagato's group (Toad = Yahiko, Slug = Konan, Snake = Nagato) and we don't know anything about Yondaime's team but Yondy is definitely Toad-like. In every single one of these instances the toad-type ends up dying in some sort of Heroic Sacrifice. The parallels between Team 7 and the Sannin are very obvious. But maybe Team 7 will be the Combo Breaker.
I believe that he will learn a bunshin technique, and combine that with his Beast Mimicry Jutsu to create a new jutsu: Cerberus no jutsu (or some translation thereof. Proof: Cerberus was (in Greek and Roman mythology) a three headed dog. If Kiba and Akamaru alone were able to form that Two-Headed Wolf, a clone added to the mix would create a three headed wolf.
- Three years is the minimum time between moving for bodies, although the illness that forces Orochimaru to try to take Sasuke's body is unexplained. Orochimaru had two bodies in the ten years after his defection, making an average of five years for each body, although it could be that like Dante of the Fullmetal Alchemist anime, his soul can't keep on switching bodies forever, and he must switch bodies sooner and sooner as time goes on.
- The illness wasn't unexplained. It's because Sandaime pulled his soul's arms off c: It hurts to have your soul bleed. Although I'll admit I have no clue how switching bodies helped, but soul science isn't my field.
- They had to brainwash her?
- With the revelations that Karin is an Uzumaki (itself a branch of the Senju) and that the Rinnegan can be obtained by combining the powers of Senju and Uchiha this theory gains new weight.
- On the other hand we already had multiple examples of Senju/Uzumaki powers being obtained simply by injecting their cells.
- Twenty to one he's going to have red hair if he does have Swordchucks.
- ... Er, Naruto doesn't love Hinata. Her confessing =/= instant OMFGLOVEYOUTOO from Naruto. Sure, he'll be thinking about the confession, but I doubt he'll return her feelings for a while, leaving time for Sakura to pull herself together and kick reason to the curb!
- I meant that the possible scenario I proposed would hinge upon Naruto loving Hinata, too, although I do think that Naruto will ultimately accept Hinata's love.
- Chapter 458: The nervous breakdown seems likely, since Sai told her that Naruto loved her and that she has always been hurting Naruto. The face Sakura makes when told this indicate that the words hit her with the strength of a several ton freight train. Couple this with the fact that she feels unable to do anything for Naruto, and Sakura must think that she is a terrible person.
- ... Er, Naruto doesn't love Hinata. Her confessing =/= instant OMFGLOVEYOUTOO from Naruto. Sure, he'll be thinking about the confession, but I doubt he'll return her feelings for a while, leaving time for Sakura to pull herself together and kick reason to the curb!
- It will try to kill them all, and the warning sign will be a seemingly random list of powers called off from within the statue ending with Heart from The Kyuubi, causing a mysterious new voice to call out "By your powers combined I am Captain Apocolypse"
- When all the ingredients are added, it does transform into an Eldritch Abomination of apocalyptic proportions, but that's all planned by the real Akatsuki leader.
- Gaara's group's at the summit already
- Naruto's group is in the country
- The Tsuchikage's group appears to be camping out somewhere. Under this scenario, they'd be close, but not close enough to make it there in a night.
- The Mizukage's group (starting out the furthest away) is stopping at an inn for the night.
It's probably in the eastern part of the country, which explains how everyone got there so quickly. I suspect it will be at least another day in-universe time before the summit starts.
- That border region, if I recall, is entirely taken up by River Country, the mostly-forested and temperate land where the Akatsuki extracted the Ichibi; also, there were no mountains shown in that arc, so I doubt that this is the case.
- Here's a map, and if it's not the one between the Lands of Fire and Wind (what does that symbol mean?), then I would think it's the one between Earth and Wind, but that begs the question of why it's taking longer for the Iwa team to get there than the Konoha team.
- On second examination, that placement seems to be accurate. Most of the other scenarios I can think of have the Stone and Cloud ninjas too close, or the Sand ninjas too far away.
- If he's lying, Izuna wants revenge on his eye-stealing brother and chooses the nearest acceptable vessel (in terms of strength and mentality) possible; in this case, post-massacre Sasuke who would be likely to encounter him.
- If he's telling the truth, Izuna could be influencing Sasuke to follow his big brothers orders, since he was unable to support him against the Senju takeover. This accounts for Sasuke's compliance with Madara's commands despite his hand in the massacre and being the root (sorry) cause of it. Also, if Izuna had actually taken over at some point, it would explain his bad tactics against Killer Bee - unused to having a physical state, and rusting of skills. Plus they look so damn similar...
- Sasuke: He's out of the village right now, and he considers any Leaf ninja he could be paired with an enemy. He could wind up with Karin, but that's extremely unlikely.
- Sakura: It's highly unlikely that she'll get over Sasuke just because he left without one last realization putting her feelings to rest, even if she does have romantic feelings for Naruto. Since she also seems to know about Hinata's feelings for Naruto, it's highly unlikely that she'll get together with him without taking Hinata into consideration, regardless of what the Die for Our Ship crowd thinks.
- Events in chapter 458 suggest that she might want to reevaluate her feelings both for Sasuke and Naruto, it's probable that the next chapters will be crucial for this, Sakura being told that Naruto loves her and she has been deeply hurting Naruto all this time will have a great impact on her So it might come to this: a) Sai might tell her next that he has noticed that she loves him too and suggest to let go of Sasuke that has done nothing but hurting them and be happy together (if this happens and Sakura agrees then she will lose a great part (if not all) of her motivation for wanting Sasuke back). b) Sakura will ask Naruto to stop looking for Sasuke for her sake and that he doesn't need to fulfill his promise to her anymore, Sakura will then either continue to love Sasuke in secret or move on entirely. Naruto still will have a motivation for wanting Sasuke back but it will be personal only. c) Sakura will remember Hinata's sacrifice and think that Hinata has done far more for Naruto than her, as such Sakura will consider herself unworthy of being with either Sasuke or Naruto.
- Sakura claims that she's gotten over Sasuke and is in love with Naruto, but Naruto claims she's lying.
- Events in chapter 458 suggest that she might want to reevaluate her feelings both for Sasuke and Naruto, it's probable that the next chapters will be crucial for this, Sakura being told that Naruto loves her and she has been deeply hurting Naruto all this time will have a great impact on her So it might come to this: a) Sai might tell her next that he has noticed that she loves him too and suggest to let go of Sasuke that has done nothing but hurting them and be happy together (if this happens and Sakura agrees then she will lose a great part (if not all) of her motivation for wanting Sasuke back). b) Sakura will ask Naruto to stop looking for Sasuke for her sake and that he doesn't need to fulfill his promise to her anymore, Sakura will then either continue to love Sasuke in secret or move on entirely. Naruto still will have a motivation for wanting Sasuke back but it will be personal only. c) Sakura will remember Hinata's sacrifice and think that Hinata has done far more for Naruto than her, as such Sakura will consider herself unworthy of being with either Sasuke or Naruto.
- Naruto: He said that he can't tell Sakura how he feels as long as he hasn't fulfilled his promise to bring Sasuke back (which was before he found out that Hinata loves him). He's thus unlikely to confess to Sakura before then for that reason. Then again, it also seems somewhat unlikely that he will reciprocate Hinata's love at this stage, unless she somehow convinces him that even if he hasn't fulfilled his promise, he's stayed faithful to it without giving up and that's what matters.
- Chapter 450 works as evidence against Naru Saku simply because Values Dissonence Hugs Are So Much More Significant In Japanese Culture. Sakura hugs Naruto, and what does Naruto do? He just stands there, arms at his side, which is a rather awkward position. Embracing her would be easy to do, not to mention more comfortable, but he doesn't. So basically, Sakura made an overtly romantic gesture and Naruto ignored it.
- Not to mention Sasuke/Naruto . . . don't look at me like that!
- Chapter 450 works as evidence against Naru Saku simply because Values Dissonence Hugs Are So Much More Significant In Japanese Culture. Sakura hugs Naruto, and what does Naruto do? He just stands there, arms at his side, which is a rather awkward position. Embracing her would be easy to do, not to mention more comfortable, but he doesn't. So basically, Sakura made an overtly romantic gesture and Naruto ignored it.
From what we know, Sasuke is not only a missing part of the Love Dodecahedron, but Naruto and Sakura have unresolved issues with him that they will most likely have to deal with even if they decide to look elsewhere for love.
- She is a genjutsu mistress, and Sharingan has a minor illusion as one of its basic powers. Plus, maybe she has a half Sharingan because her mom and dad's blood didn't have the ability to mesh together well, diluting her bloodline limit.
- There are actually a lot of signs that point to this being true. The best example that comes to mind right now would be Sasuke, whose first technique after the timeskip was a variant of the Chidori which used no signs, and several times after that he used Chidori (which he used with signs in Part 1) and a number of other variants without signs. Another example would be Kakashi who can use his lighting Blade without signs when needed, as well as cutting the number of signs of a certain water technique, which used originally forty-two, to two. Unlike Harry Potter, however, this probably stems from someone being very familiar with a certain technique (and by extension, element) than it does with learning a universal method to "jump" over the requirements displayed by the abilities (in Harry Potter, spells). Basically, however, using signs makes things easier.
- I always just figured the handsigns weren't needed for consecutive uses of the same jutsu. Kinda like how you can always just hit the power button on a computer to turn it on, so long as you still have a power cable plugged in.
- Kishimoto said her constantly stalking Sasuke was a weakness she had that was part of her being human. I think by the time Sasuke left Konoha, she had started to truly care for him rather than having a shallow crush on him, which possibly shows that while her feelings were still for Sasuke, she was starting to overcome her weakness. Whether she still has feelings for him, he does for her or ever will, or if the two get together are separate matters, though.
- Kishimoto didn't say that Sakura's crush was shallow. He said her love for Sasuke was true and genuine, while Ino's was the shallow crush.
- But but but... you're not accounting for the largest side at all. SasuNaruSasu.
- Seriously, how come Sasunaru never shows up in these discussions? It plasible that it could happen.
- Because Naruto pretty clearly isn't gay, and the two and a half years with Jiraiya didn't help matters. In Sasuke's case, when has he ever shown interest in anyone?
- Alternatively, Neji will just kick the shit out of Sasuke. With his eyes closed. Then make some smart ass comment like Zetsu did way back during the Uchiha brothers' fight.
- Doubtful. Sasuke was a credible threat to Itachi. Not better than him, but a credible threat. Neji's last combat appearance had him, Lee, and Tenten having trouble dealing with an inferior version of Kisame which Guy had to defeat. Neji is good, yeah... but just like Naruto, Sasuke got the benefit of three years of training under one of the Sannin. While this isn't Dragon Ball and tactics play a much larger role in a fight than "power levels", Sasuke's probably still got a fair edge on Neji.
- Jossed. Naruto becomes Hokage, though Sasuke does become a traveling hermit of sorts.
- I see it similar to the plan given in Nugar's fanfic People Lie - Sasuke will be the Hokage, while Naruto will rule all the Shinobi villages; in other words, Naruto will be Kage, and Sasuke will be his Ho :-)
- No really, since Naruto is a Messianic Archetype it is only natural that he will be the sacrificial lamb and offer himself to die in other to end the cycle of hatred, after all, it has been implied by Yamato that the only way to end it is that one side to "give in" and swallow its tears. Oh and to complete the messianic attibutes he will then be resurrected from the dead. Naruto, the savior of the world!
- Alternatively, in a subversion of this, the Fox will be the thing that allows him to be ressurected. Are you a savior if you've been ressurected by one of the settings ultimate evils?
- Alternatively, they both came from the Rinnegan.
- That could be the case, and be something like this; before either Byakugan or Sharingan, two siblings of the Uchiha descent; one female and one male, could have had a falling out. While the sister grew tired of the constant war, her brother still desired to fight against the Senju, which the sister didn't want. Eventually, they split apart, and went their separate ways. The sister would meet a male ninja, and conceive a child, whose name she decided would be when she looked "towards the sun": Hyuuga. In other words, that child would develop the byakugan, while later down the male's line, the Sharingan would appear.
- Alternatively, Byakugan generated Rinnegan, that generated Sharingan. It doesn't exclude the fact that Byakugan could, somehow or another, generate the Sharingan, and it could be a nice evolutive line.
- The Rinnegan couldn't have come from the Byakugan. The Sage of the Six Paths was the first ninja specifically because he had the Rinnegan. If the Byakugan had come first, the first person to have it would have been the first ninja.
- Or he at least hated using them, thus explaining why he went to the trouble of inventing two powerful techniques that didn't need any (the Rasengan and the Flying Thunder God technique).
- This Doujinshi by BotanofSpiritWorld shows Kushina as the pervert instead of Minato. This makes more sense based on the fact that Naruto gets his personality from his mother.
- What about them both being perverts. Minato would have it inherited from his sensei, and pass it on, while Naruto does get his personality from his mother, so that led to an increased natural pervertedness in Naruto.
- Well, she also uses steam, so does that mean she's also related to Han?
- Maybe Roushi ran away with Han's daughter to the Water Country, but had to abandon them due hunter-nins tracking him.
- Or maybe the other way around, because Roshi looks older than Han.
- Maybe Roushi ran away with Han's daughter to the Water Country, but had to abandon them due hunter-nins tracking him.
- While it's obvious that Naruto will defeat Madara the line you're refering to, I have just read it again on Binktopia and I think Kakashi is talking about the total of Kyubi+ Naruto could have that insane quantity of chakra, not that Naruto doesn't have a huge amount but I really can't imagine 100x chakra to come naturaly.
- Agreed, Kakashi must've meant "if you let yourself use the Kyuubi's chakra, it'd grant you a hundred times more chakra"
- [[Spoiler: Since it's revealed Madara was actually dead and has been revived by Kabutochimaru, Tobi never was Madara Uchiha, but someone totally different]]. Considering his weird powers, his goals and the fact he always covers his face, one can theorize he is not exactly human. Also, if you consider the Juubi's Sharingan-mixed-Rinnegan massive eye, and the fact Tobi's mask now resembles Juubi's freaking eye, what does that tell you?
- Perhaps Tobi is a manifestation of the Juubi seeking to re-unify itself
- The "stockpiles good eyes" part was yet more SleepyFans craps. Every other translation say something like "I won't let such a power fall out of my hands". Also, while Word of God has stated an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan doesn't require a sibling's eyes, it's not likely to work unless their close relatives, and the closest Madara could be is a great-grandfather. However, it is possible he has Itachi's body/eyes in storage, but it would probably be because Sasuke (who can use them) turned down Itachi's eyes and he wants to be able to make his tool stronger if needs be.
- Well, if the WMG about Sasuke being Madara's son is right, than maybe he's trying to make Sasuke switch eyes so he can take Sasuke's eyes for himself. We've only seen one eye on Madara.
- "I won't let such a power fall out of my hands"? It still could mean mean that he will steal Sasuke's eyes. He might clump a bunch of sharingan eyes including Sasuke's into one big eye for the juubi, who's eye looks like an utra sharingan. A BIG one.
- Given his more recent statement about taking Shisui's eye from Danzo's corpse, this seems like it might be true after all.
- Given even more recent development, I don't think he's got Itachi's eyes anymore... since he gave Sasuke them. Which also begs the question of what, if anything, is sitting in the skull of that corpse Kabuto's carrying around.
- Alternatively, He's Might Guy's. Same things apply for this one.
- I am getting so many ideas from this WMG it's not even funny. * Beggins doodling teen!Udon w/ creepy puppet.*
- Neji confirmed
- Might Guy (probably from opening all Eight Gates)
- Tsunade (already effectively dead)
- Gaara (for real this time)
- All of Team Hawk (except for Sasuke, of course)
- Funnily enough, if we follow the "removing Akatsuki cloak=death" that would mean Sasuke and Jugo would die, but Suigetsu and Karin would live (although they might not "count", since they probably aren't considered full members).
- One of the parents of the Konoha 12; Shikaku Nara and Chozu Akimichi seem the most likely candidates. confirmed for Shikaku and Inoichi
- Baki (which of course will be subject of a mini-arc and make the Sand Village characters important afterwards, though they've had their moments in the past few chapters
- Lots of other people
- Konan could shoot down negotions with Danzo's group based on their treatment of Naruto. In fact, she might make Naruto leading Konoha be a specific condition of creating a treaty.
- Konan might provide a safe-haven for Naruto after he does his best to talk to Sasuke. Like it or not, going against Danzo could get him labelled a missing-nin. Given that one of Naruto's stated dreams is making sure Sasuke is no longer driven by revenge, Amegakure might be the place he has to take him in order to keep him safe from the legions of hunter-nin who WILL be gunning for him.
- Naruto might finally wake the hell up to politics and point out that at least two' ninja villages (before we go into the few filler arcs) have a good relationship with Konoha solely based on his word: Amegakure and Sunagakure, one of which has an actual Kage and the other of which has a kunoichi leading it who can probably fight near that level. While it's doubtful Naruto would actually go this route (not enough fighting, explosions, and hot-bloodedness) it would make for a very simple path for him to replace Danzo as Hokage. "Yo, Fire Lord! Gimme another five years and I'll have a treaty with every village!"
- What? The Sharingan can't read minds at all, and the hypnosis thing doesn't really work like that (it can't plant suggestions in people's heads, but I don't think it can project a false image so exact). And if he wanted to lie about who he was to Kisame, wouldn't he just keep pretending to be Tobi since Pain was still around then?
- If the ninja system does get abolished, Naruto and thousads of other shinobi would be put out of work. And most ninja (especially Naruto) have no civilian skills and no more than a 6th grade education (assuming they graduated from the acadamy at age 12). Just what are you going to do with thousands of unemployed trained killers?
- I do not think Naruto is planning to abolish the system entirely. Given that it appear that all but the most elite ninja spend their times on odd jobs ranging from gardening to acting as bodyguards against bandits it's safe to assume they can do things besides kill people. Besides, there are plenty of other applications for those kinds of superhuman abilities.
- Their education doesn't end with graduating from the academy, as demonstrated by the Chuunin Exams. The questions on the written exam were high school level at least (Sakura read a physics problem to the audience); if there wasn't some degree of continuing education, then the dummy chuunin wouldn't have been able to answer those questions.
However, this WMG may not be relevant if my next one happens instead:
- Two words: Rock Lee
- One more: Ino.
Alternatively, Sakura will die at Madara Uchiha's hands. This may lead to Naruto and Sasuke going all RAGE and double-teaming Madara.
Lastly, she may be felled by friendly fire. Imagine how tragic it would be if Sakura were accidentally killed by a stray attack from an ally, maybe even Naruto himself; and how Naruto would react if he accidentally killed his ex-crush.
No matter how it would happen, it would be done in a way that leaves even Sakura-haters (well, most of them) shocked and/or saddened and be played for all it's worth.
- Kishi has stated (Somewhere; It's mentioned on the wiki) That he hates killing his main child characters. I don't see him killing Sakura.
- Actually, she may be in trouble soon, seeing that Sai has revealed that Sakura plans to track Sasuke down and try to kill him herself. This can't end well...
- Possibly tied into this, The third Hokage may have actually resolved the situation peacefully before Danzo displayed his tendency to ignore orders he doesn't like and undermine the 3rd's authority by orchestrating the massacre without permission, presenting false evidence to cover his ass when the 3rd demanded an explanation. Danzo had an ulterior motive of gaining extra sharingan this way, including Shunsui's eye, which could have let him weasel out of any investigation and make a future move for Hokage that much easier. Madara knows some or all of this and twisted the facts to suit his interests when recruiting Sasuke.
- Alternatively all the swords have magic powers, and Zabuza was to dense to figure that out/didn't believe in that mystical mumbo-jumbo (and yes, I'm aware of how stupid that thought is). Kisame has fully unlocked his swords potential.
- It naturally follows that it, too, was a part of the Juubi. The fact that it wasn't put into the statue before Shukaku despite 0 coming before 1 (and Kisame being a part of the very group looking for biju) implies that, like on a keyboard, zero goes last.
- And if it's the 0 tail, it could imply something rather sinister about it's chakra absorption... Perhaps it wants to be whole again?
- ... Can Bijuu fall in love with eachother?
- Considering that they're fragments of the same being, it'd be narcissism, but yes.
- And when he sees the new generational Senju representative of the conflict, Naruto, obsessing over the trying-to-ignore-him next generation Uchiha, he loves the irony hence his treating Sasuke reasonably well.
- Samehada's thirst for chakra is a by product of this. A mutated or corrupted version of what allowed it to seal it's biju. This is why it defected to Killerbee.
- This theory could be related to how Shukaku was sealed in a tea pot before being in Gaara.
- Supported by Samehada loving the Hachibi chakra so much it refuses to cut off Killer Bee's legs and gives him back some of his chakra before Kisame kicked it. See if Samehada will ever work for him again...
- Seeing as Kisame's kinda lost his head, that's kinda likely...
- I don't think we've ever heard of any Jinchuuriki dying without having the the Bijuu extracted (such as Yagura, the two Suna Jinchuuriki prior to Gaara, and the hosts the Akatsuki killed) so for all we know it's not even possible for Jinchuuriki to die without an extraction.
- The Kyuubi expressed no uncertainty about this. It was "if you die, I die." Nothing like "I'll save you just in case this kills me too." Moreover, back when Gaara was still a jinchuriki, it was stated that the sand acted independently of his will to protect him. Look at the scene where Yashamaru tried to kill him. He never saw that attack coming and was surprised when the sand came up to protect him. This indicates that Shukaku is well aware that if Gaara died then he would too, and he should know as he has had two jinchuriki before Gaara. And in regards to the Sanbi, there are two distinct possibilities as I see it. Either whoever was manipulating him (most likely Madara) released it when Yagura had outlived his usefulness or the seal broke on its own. I mention the latter only because Naruto's own seal is weakening, so who's to say the same couldn't happen to other jinchuriki?
- So in other words, we only have their word for it. What exactly makes the Kyuubi certain? Besides, if you want to show the person you're stuck with how tough you are, never openly express doubt. He also warned Sasuke not to kill Naruto, because he will make him regret it.
- No, the Nine-Tails was also starting to fade when Kabuto cut some of Naruto's heart muscles and parts of his chakra circulatory system to keep his Healing Factor from kicking in.
- Yeah, but we also know that the 4ths seal is quite different from other seals, and that he split the Kyuubi's chakra in half without creating another tailed beast. Any of those might explain what was happening without expanding it to impact all Jinchuriki ever.
- So in other words, we only have their word for it. What exactly makes the Kyuubi certain? Besides, if you want to show the person you're stuck with how tough you are, never openly express doubt. He also warned Sasuke not to kill Naruto, because he will make him regret it.
- The recent Jump Festa interview all but outright confirms this.
- The gist of what he was saying wasn't "none of the characters are ever going to be in romantic relationships with each other", it was "the story isn't suddenly going to BE ABOUT those relationships".
- When was it ever about the relationships?
- The gist of what he was saying wasn't "none of the characters are ever going to be in romantic relationships with each other", it was "the story isn't suddenly going to BE ABOUT those relationships".
- Except we haven't really seen Hinata at all since this arc started, so we don't know what her feelings are right now or how Naruto actually reacted to her confession for that matter.
- Dude, get real. If he actually liked her, he would've shown it by now. Same thing with Sakura towards Naruto and Sasuke towards Sakura. The idea of Naruto liking Hinata back is based purely on wishful thinking as opposed to obvious facts. The obvious facts, provided by explicit canon admission and Word of God, are these: Naruto loves Sakura. Sakura doesn't love Naruto back, and we have no reason to think she ever will; she still loves Sasuke. (who is only getting more evil and doesn't have romantic interest in anyone.) The words we're looking for are All Love Is Unrequited and No Hugging, No Kissing.
- Naruto has NOT had an opportunity to think about Hinata's confession- he's been real busy ever since, going directly from healing to being out in the field. However, he has had a 'reaction'- going 6-tails when he realizes that Hinata's love will indeed be forever unrequited. When Sakura tells him that she's fallen in love with him, he calls bull and tells her angrily to get out of his sight. A major difference there- he's willing to accept the random girl, but doesn't even think about accepting the girl he actually loves. MY theory is that the next chapter that focuses on him will have him thinking through these things as well as about what to do with Sasuke.
- Right. Where in the text does it indicate Naruto accepted her feelings? Am I just too lazy and apathetic as a reader to read the fine print that's neccesary to shipping any of three big popular ships? Face it: there's nothing that supports Naruto liking Hinata aside from hopeful speculation. It's no different from arguing that Sakura actually has romantic feelings for Naruto despite the blatant evidence to the contrary or trying to say that Sasuke accepted Sakura's confession because of his "thank you" despite what happens later. Sorry if I'm coming off as an unromantic jerk- I only ship people when it's blindingly obvious both parties like each other and/or it seems inevitable they're going to at least try to be together in a romantic sense.
- P.S, this is a freaking battle shonen. We're not going to get a beautiful Love Epiphany from Naruto or anyone else. If you want that kind of relationship development, take Oda's advice and read an actual romance manga. (can I suggest Bakuman? The hero ends up with the adorable shy girl with an uncanny resemblance to Hinata, and the development is really touching and satisfying.)
- Alternatively, Kishimoto is just deliberately creating a topic that automatically results in backlash and Ship-to-Ship Combat whenever it is brought up even tangentally, even in a non-shipping context. As the response to this WMG shows, he succeeded perfectly.
- One possibility is that, like Fullmetal Alchemist, the couples will be confirmed in the last chapter of the manga but not necessarily given prominence in the plot.
- Another is that Naruto isn't willing to start something with Hinata until the Sasuke thing is settled, or he's not sure how he feels about her yet. If he was just plain not interested, he could have just said so, and would have thanked her for trying to save him by now.
- Now that...would be EPIC! But he'd be completely restored into his original body, and probably crush Madara and Sasuke like maggots! MASASHI KISHIMOTO!!
- Jossed: Orochimaru wasn't sealed into the Suusano'o, so much as an item Itachi equipped onto the Suusano'o. Following the same logic, Itachi also sealed Edo Tensei'd Nagato into the Totsuka blade, so if Kishi decides to bring Orochi back then by that same logic, he can bring back the other guy.
- Orochimaru is back anyway, but through a different method.
- I suspect that Sai's wrong about her planning to kill Sasuke and/or her reasons for doing so, as most characters who attempt to predict a decision a character has not been shown making and the motives have been wrong about at least one (Yamato predicts that Sai was going to assassinate Sasuke, but Sai reveals that while he was ordered to do so, he's actually going to try to help Naruto bring him back). The number of lies and omissions from Sakura makes it hard to judge her by her words alone, but as of Chapter 481, it seems that whatever she's planning, she's doing it alone.
- This is a terrible idea. It would come off as a giant, contrived Ass Pull to anyone who doesn't obsess over the romance. What would be the point of this? What would Naruto's feelings be based on considering how little he's actually interacted with her, and how he doesn't really make an effort to include her in his life? And, dude, it's Sasuke who Naruto's pretty much Naruto's most important person and who he related to best. Because, durr durr, wow, platonic/brotherly love can be deeper/more important than a romance. It's almost as if this manga were actually aimed at boys and not love-obsessed high school/college age women.
- Going by the anime, the part about his wife dying in childbirth was Jossed by episode 166- she's shown in a flashback holding Hanabi as an infant. She probably died before the series started, but not giving birth to Hanabi.
- It's probably something hax, like the ability to cause everything around him to rot and die instantly...
- Hopefully it's not an old man... We've seen that before in shonen and it doesn't do nearly as much as some of Naruto's powers. Though it fits in with Shintoism well enough, I'd think it would have to do with creation - what Izanami (the goddess of creation, essentially) did before being killed... combined with the horror Izanami became. So basically Eldritch Abomination spawning is my vote.
- Jossed/Confirmed: Izanami is the natural counter to Izanagi by Word of God
- Hopefully it's not an old man... We've seen that before in shonen and it doesn't do nearly as much as some of Naruto's powers. Though it fits in with Shintoism well enough, I'd think it would have to do with creation - what Izanami (the goddess of creation, essentially) did before being killed... combined with the horror Izanami became. So basically Eldritch Abomination spawning is my vote.
- Aren't most ROOT members recruited long before they become Genin?
- Given that Fu and Torune are members of clans who's techniques are taught, not inherited, it seems it has both young orphans raised as part of the group (like Sai and Shin) and people Danzo found that were sympathetic to his goals.
- The Aburame Clan bugs are implanted at brith and have a symbiotic relationship with the user. It's unlikely that this secret would be shared outside of the clan, and someone would have to be born in the clan to use it (although Root could have offered to adopt and train an Aburame orphan).
- Given that Fu and Torune are members of clans who's techniques are taught, not inherited, it seems it has both young orphans raised as part of the group (like Sai and Shin) and people Danzo found that were sympathetic to his goals.
- I suspect that the Distant Finale will happen after an "epilogue" section that discusses the final battle with Sasuke in a double-length chapter. Sasuke will most likely come to his senses, but realize that he needs to atone for his crimes, and leave on a journey of repentance, while other characters discuss his decision. Sakura will accompany him, both out of love and to make sure he doesn't stray from his path, and Naruto will initially be upset to see two of his best friends leave, but accept their decision after Sasuke reassures him he kept his promise. The last four or five pages will probably show Naruto a few years later, accepting the Hokage title while he and everyone else are with their canon or implied partners, and promising to work hard until the day he sees Sasuke and Sakura again.
Alright, we all know about whom our main character's parents are, as revealed in chapter, what, 360?
Now, let's think about their parents.
Numerous fanfics (which won't be named, mostly because I can't remember all of them) hypothesize about Minato's parents... Specifically, that when Jiraya said that 'You can send me the love letters later' bit Tsunade decided to take him up on it several years after Dan's death. Some say that she didn't take him up on that, and that she and Dan had... * ahem* before his death, and Minato was the result.
But both of those are unimportant for now. What matters is the other parent's lineage. Yes, who Kushina's family is. And just why Uzu hasn't appeared as well.
Now, ~100 years before the main story starts, Konoha formed. Other villages probably formed around then as well, including Uzukagure no Sato.
Uzu formed from several wandering ninja clans, including several powerful bloodline, with some Kayugas, some of whatever clan Haku's bloodline comes from, and, as some suspected for a while, people with teh ultimate hax that really, more than Madara, hated the Senju (or, alternatively, Izuna's girlfriend ran off after swearing an oath of revenge on Maddy, taking her close family in the Uchiha clan with her).
So they set themselves up, with all of them trying to stay quiet about their bloodlines and locations to keep A) the bloodline haters of Kiri, and B) their original clans, from finding them.
Sixty years pass, and the people of Uzu basically decide that the best leaders are the people who are more hax than the rest, former Uchiha, whose hair now matches their activated bloodline, calling themselves Uzumaki due to their newfound mastery of water techniques.
Then, during the 2nd, or between it and the 3rd, Ninja War, Konoha needs allies and decide to ask a village that they know is pretty damn powerful if they'd consider an alliance. Uzu accepts, and Konoha sends three of their stronger ninja with the treaty.
You should see where this is going, but I'll continue for those of you can't tell.Voldemaru Jackso- Er, Orochimaru manages to get laid by an actual female. Of said Uzumaki clan.
Then he leaves with the rest of his team, never looking back as he continues on his self destructive path.
Never realizing the fact that said Uzumaki female, ~9 months later, had a baby girl.
Flash forwards fifteen or so years, and the 3rd Ninja War is just starting, with Konoha and their allies fighting Iwa and their allies in all out ninja warfare.
The aforementioned girl, now Genin or Chunin, rises to prominence on the battlefields along with a certain blond speedster, the two racking up some of the higher kill counts and being dispatched to the same places at the same time.
They meet, hit it off, and find themselves in a relationship several years later, during the bigpart of the war, which destroys Uzu.
After it ends, the girl, now a woman, manages to find 'that snake who...' that her mother told her about and confronts him.
He panics, packs up his ninjutsu developing shops (being caught by his master in one of his last few and bluffing about why he's fleeing), and amscrays rather than having to deal with it.And both her and her mother.
Now we can think about Minato's parentage. With either of the previously mentioned possibilities (Jiraya and Tsunade, Dan and Tsunade), we've Senju blooded person.
With Kushina, we have an Uchiha blooded person. With some snake in the veins, of course.
Now, logically, a child of theirs would be, say, IN-FRICKIN-SANELY STRONG and the closest thing to getting a Senju and Uchiha to have kids together.
Thus, the perfect place to store a ninth of the Juubi, as it should have the body of the Senju and the eyes of the Uchiha... Eventually...
So, the sealing happens before the main story starts, with Minato adding some bloodline suppression seals to the mix (to prevent the Uchiha from trying for his kid), and dying, Kushina following him shortly after or just vanishing.
Now, the reason behind Naruto's strength...Uchiha Blood + Senju Blood + Juubi Part =?
Rinnegan in the making.
Eventually, the bloodline suppression seals will be broken and then the orange and spiral motif will manifest itself in the appropriate place.In fact, it's entirely possible that Itachi knew all of this and planned for it to occur fairly soon after his demise. Sort of a last mockery of Madara, or an apology to Naruto for completly messing up his best friend.
CORRELARIES
- Then there are fairly goood odds that someone else with a hax bloodline(s) would find their way to Kiri after the destruction of Uzu. The current Mizukage has red hair and green eyes. My point is now made.
EVIDENCE
- Despite his ordering Kabuto around, Orochimaru never actually tried to kill Naruto. He just said, to paraphrase, 'this isn't something I want to deal with now' and threw him over his shoulder after making him useless in combat. He even stopped Sasuke from starting a fight. Thus, if this is true, he knows about Naruto's parents.
- Nothing else for now.
- I think I've read several fanfics based on this. None of them were very good. This seems to point towards it being true, given the way the manga's going.
- Yeah... Most of this came to me when I was thinking about the Orochi myth and just who Kushina is/was...
- Given Sasuke's past decisions and the fact that Izanagi permanently destroys a Sharingan, this is very likely. A quick review of his decisions, 1) Take on all of Konoha all by myself. 2) Go to the most secure site in the world and kill a Kage. 3) Fight the pissed off big brother of the guy that split my chest cavity open and pulverized all my vital organs. So what are the chances that #4 would be "Sacrifice a Game-Breaker to revive a useless character"?
- Sasuke's approach isn't, "do the stupidest thing possible", it's, "do anything that could possibly get me closer to revenge." He may do something weird like use Izanagi to suppress Danzo'a Izanagi.
- True, Danzo was only using them as 1-ups when he could have ended the entire fight by spending one eye and using a genjutsu to simulate cutting Sasuke in half then using Izanagi to make that reality. He may not be able to make Izanagi open his closed sharingan, but he should have really won that battle.
- One, it'll keep him alive after the Kyuubi is removed.
- Two, it'll make him immune to Mangekyou Sharingan genjutsu, possiby all genjutsu.
Now, with everyone except for Sasuke and Naruto under the control of Madara, Sasuke will be told that he's no longer needed, making him decide to take revenge on Madara and ally with Naruto for a final battle against the old Uchiha.
- Followup on the above. Naruto won't realize what happened at first, and will have a rather mindscrew moment as he triest to figure out why the world changed. Then he'll have to decide if a world that's at peace, his stated goal is worth it, if it means a man like Madara is in charge.
- If so, he was a baby when this happened, because he clearly does not remember this. Regardless, this would be good because it connects things even closer than they were before.
- Think abou it. Itachi doesn't want to go through with his mission. In order to make Itachi mentally capable of killing both himself and the clan, Shisui used Kotoamatsukami (sp?) to FORCE him to go through with it. It explains Itachi's fanaticism in regards to protecting the village
- There isn't really any way Kishi can really pull off a satisfying ending for Sasuke without either ending him via heroic sacrifice on the basis that he has the power of plot no jutsu and is Kishi's pet character, or via Naruto. However Kishi chooses to do it, it will portray Sasuke in a somewhat positive light. Even if he goes down by Naruto's hands, he'll get some kind of cheesy montage with a big moral message stapled to the end about how revenge is really, really bad, kids.
- ...the last time they were anywhere near each other while Sasuke was even remotely sane, they were both twelve years old.