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- Jossed, the leaked list of animatronics confirm that "Funtime Freddy" and "Funtime Foxy" will be present at least.
- Maybe not jossed: the new update for Five Nights at Freddy's World mentions "Fazburger", and that Baby (one of the animatronics from the list) is present as well.
- Original Poster here, shall we settle on a semi-confirmed?
, the faceplates of the animatronics have some sort of smooth shifting motion, which looks much more advanced than anything 80's robotics could do.- To add to your theory, maybe instead of just some random recently hired employee, this time you play as one of the Fazbear Entertainment higher-ups, hired to check out what's going on. This will justify their bloodlust towards you, since they blame the company for what happened to them.
- While the idea of not being a brand-new employee makes a lot of sense, somehow I doubt the animatronics would feel very merciful toward the higher-ups; "Don't hold it against us" and "You don't know what we've been through" would probably be replaced with something to the effect of "You deserve this" and "You left us to rot to save yourself" if that was the case.
- Maybe they just aren't aware s/he's a higher-up? Usually, those types of people don't actually go to the restaurants themselves, and I doubt they'd go check the place out in business suits and bring name cards.
- While the idea of not being a brand-new employee makes a lot of sense, somehow I doubt the animatronics would feel very merciful toward the higher-ups; "Don't hold it against us" and "You don't know what we've been through" would probably be replaced with something to the effect of "You deserve this" and "You left us to rot to save yourself" if that was the case.
- Implied by the line "please stay in your seats" from the new teaser. Although it's also been implied that the game takes place in a fast food restaurant. Perhaps this restaurant will be located in the amusement park?
- Security room in the back, perhaps? If your theme park is mostly outdoor rides and you've only got the one building, the food joint where you overcharge for everything, it couldn't hurt to stick a security office in the back. You know, some otherwise empty cement room with some emergency controls over the park to lock gates, stop rides, and of course some cameras. If things go down, the security guard in charge is in a nice central location where he can head out from or dispatch other guards if he sees someone stealing merchandise or something.
- Implied by the line "please stay in your seats" from the new teaser. Although it's also been implied that the game takes place in a fast food restaurant. Perhaps this restaurant will be located in the amusement park?
- There is a possibility that this is the same park Fazbear's Fright was set up in. It's doubtful that a place like Fazbear's Fright could stand on its own but if Fazbear Entertainment owns the entire theme park and had some spare space, they might have decided a decade or two after the fact that it'd be worth exploring the failed fast food branch of the franchise again to see if they could make a profit off of it as a horror attraction.
- Jossed, the trailer implies these animatronics are 'underground', and the location looks like a factory.
- Not quite. It could be underneath an amusement park, around maintenance and the machinists' shops. See below.
- Jossed, the trailer implies these animatronics are 'underground', and the location looks like a factory.
- Probably jossed, as the Steam page indicates that this is just another restaurant. But at least it seems to be a circus-themed restaurant. And who knows, maybe it will turn out to be located in an amusement park? Though it's unlikely that we'll get to see the rest of the park.
- It could also mean that there was never just one movie in production and this game is actually a CGI movie. (Hey, this is WMG and all.)
- Confirmed by the game's custom night. There was never just one Afton.
- Actually, this sister location is different from the one mentioned in 3. "There was never just one", plus, the shadows were confirmed to be the spring-lock victims.
- No, it has never been confirmed that the shadows were spring-lock victims. It's a popular fan theory, but there's nothing conclusive offered within the games themselves. They are given no context in the games other than that Shadow Bonnie seems to be altruistic towards the spirits of the dead children.
- This is what confirmed it: Scott specifically said MatPat got everything about 2 and 3 right, confirming the shadows are indeed the springlock victims.
- Almost everything. That implies that MatPat screwed up in some places, and since Scott didn't say which places it was (though he strongly hinted that Phone Guy = Purple Guy was one of them), we should still take things with a grain of salt. Also, he only specifically referred to MatPat in regards to FNAF2, and he only discussed the Shadow animatronics in the FNAF3 theory.
- Actually, he DID specify what he got wrong (I didn't show it before cause I thought I had proved my point), and most of the fandom agrees the shadows are the springlock victims. Plus, what else could they be?
- This is what confirmed it
- Compromising between the two up above, the shadow animatronics are haunted by the spring-lock victims for the original two spring-lock costumes with the golden suits that were later reworked into some of the newer models. The sister location is where the spring-lock suits were fully implemented for an entire cast of characters and they suffered multiple simultaneous failures, effectively butchering the entire human cast at once.
- No, it has never been confirmed that the shadows were spring-lock victims. It's a popular fan theory, but there's nothing conclusive offered within the games themselves. They are given no context in the games other than that Shadow Bonnie seems to be altruistic towards the spirits of the dead children.
- Jossed, he doesn't appear at all. Although Ennard is somewhat an expy of him.
- I want to say confirmed just based on how many WMGs post-game-released.
- Markiplier is an obvious big one, as it is thanks to him the games have gotten this much exposure.
- Dawko and Razzbowski, as they are both known to be people Scott enjoys to watch.
- 8-Bit Gaming, as they made quite a few FNAF-related videos.
- Matpat of Game Theory, due to his ongoing Friendly Rivalry with Scott.
- If Fazbear Entertainment wanted to change their public identity, having versions of Freddy and Foxy (who would likely be instantly recognizable to the public as Freddy Fazbear's Pizza mascots, even with the new looks) as part of Circus Baby's main cast wouldn't be a very smart move.
- Jossed, your instructors are an AI named HandUnit, and later on, Circus Baby and/or Ennard.
- Possibly confirmed with the 6/19/16 update to the website; the animatronics for Sister Location are hinted to have been made by him...
- Kind of confirmed by custom night? It's heavily suggested that Purple Guy as a know him is Michael Afton, son f he real murderer. And the game recounts just how he came to be, well, purple.
- Confirmed, although there's only one. The Custom Night cutscenes have the same style, though.
- Jossed.
- Doubtful, this is most likely a spin-off and probably won't make any big reveals aside from there being more than 1 sister location.
- It's very doubtful, yeah. But what's a wild mass guessing section without at least a few that likely will never happen?
- ...It's complicated. After the protagonist is scooped, we see their silhouette, and later, we see them in pixellated form in the Custom Night cutscenes, but we don't know who exactly they are.
- Seems jossed, for now we've only seen new characters, including this game's version of Freddy.
- Actually I meant only old character to be represented, so semi-confirmed since we also have Funtime Foxy #2.
- Jossed, it's a new character named Circus Baby who doesn't seem to have any relation to Shadow Bonnie.
- A poster of some sort of the characters, perhaps?
- Jossed. None seem to have been found.
- And if this turns out to be true, watch it be ran by the "Phone Dude" yet again... It'd just be labeled something lazy like Fazbear Fright 2.0 considering the old one burnt down.
- This actually became more possible now that Springtrap is apparently going to be appearing.
- Well, he only said "maybe, someday", but that's still a possibility.
- Jossed, this location is (or at least, was) another childrens' restaurant.
- This actually became more possible now that Springtrap is apparently going to be appearing.
- Jossed, at least partly. Scott has said about this new animatronic, "I can't talk about HER yet, but... she scares me. A lot." If it were Toy Bonnie, he'd have already made the reveal, and also this new one is female, unlike Toy Bonnie (most likely).
- Actually both partly josses, and ever-so-slightly helps my theory. Scott has also said himself that Bonnie scares him the most out of the main group. And, wouldn't you know, he's also admitted to being particularly scared of the Sister Location's star.
- Toy Bonnie's gender isn't ambiguous. He is indeed male, check Ladies Night. On top of that, it's not definite that Scott was referring to the animatronic in the teaser. He could've been talking about some other new animatronic that we haven't seen yet. Not that I have a problem with the teaser animatronic being female. I just don't want to jump to conclusions.
- Jossed. It's a new animatronic named 'Baby'.
- Actually a decent possibility. They do seem kind of like the Marionette. (I would prefer if you did not call me out on calling it the Marionette instead of the Puppet.)
- That would be rather awkward, considering that Baby clearly plays an antagonistic role in the Update 2 ending. But if Chipper and Scott became playable, well...
- Probably jossed. As of May 2017, this hasn't happened, and at this point, it seems unlikely that Scott will update FNAF World again. But then again, with Scott, you never know...
- No characters get that much personality in the games besides the Phone Guys. Interesting, but doubtful.
- But Scott's gotta give some explanation for why the new animatronic went bad. Unless "There was never just one" means that we're dealing with another case of Haunted Technology.
- "You don't know what we've been through." If that's true, then the "tragic" part will probably be confirmed, but that exact backstory may or may not be true. But one thing's for sure: Scott is really depending on the fear of clowns for this game, so surely something like this will be brought up?
- Confirmed. Baby has a tragic backstory of unwillingly murdering a little girl. And it's implied, or at least not ruled out, that the other animatronics may have had similar experiences.
- The specific backstory in the first bullet point is jossed, though. In fact, the reason said little girl got murdered is because she loved Baby and wanted to play with her.
- Probably jossed. If the ending to the new FNAF World update is any indication, she's just as bloodthirsty as the previous animatronics. Though it could be that she's a Knight Templar like the Puppet.
- For the record, she looks like she has an Oh, Crap! face to me in the teaser picture, and given that Springtrap might be reflected there...
- CONFIRMED! Baby actually helps the player, whereas Handy, the "Phone Guy", tries to get you killed.
- It's a bit more complicated than that. Baby is only helping you to trick you into getting "scooped" so the animatronics can use you to escape. It sounds awful, but she does seem to have good intentions.
- Confirmed. The first trailer clearly shows first-person gameplay in multiple locations (a lift and air vents), with slightly juddery view movement characteristic of mouse control.
- To be fair, no FNAF installments have really kept the same type of gameplay style. Your means of protecting yourself has always been completely different in each game.
- Maybe he'll even go as far as to deliberately set off a spring-lock suit to kill the person inside, then Make It Look Like an Accident. Seems just like the kind of thing he'd do.
- The fact that it appears to be set at a burger joint instead of a pizzeria may or may not be this.
- The location's a pizzeria.
- Jossed.
- Almost confirmed. Afton's daughter is indeed killed by Circus Baby, but springlocks have nothing to do with it.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Five Nights at Freddy's World is being updated then, so it's not unlikely that there will indeed be another teaser the same day.
- Jossed, unfortunately.
- Not quite jossed, as you get a little something for completing the update...
- Jossed, unfortunately.
- Building on this theory, this is the "Funtime" location. The new characters' names have been leaked, and in addition to F. Foxy, we also have Funtime Freddy. Perhaps at this location, Funtime Foxy is/was an Ascended Extra?
- To further build on this theory, maybe Circus Baby's was shut down before the events of Five Nights at Freddy's 2, and Funtime Foxy was remodeled to join the ranks of the Toy Animatronics as a way to save money. As for why Funtime Freddy didn't get the same treatment, it may be because of his Bonnie puppet. After all, wouldn't it be a little strange for a Freddy animatronic to have a Bonnie puppet while on stage with Bonnie himself?
- Building on this theory, this is the "Funtime" location. The new characters' names have been leaked, and in addition to F. Foxy, we also have Funtime Freddy. Perhaps at this location, Funtime Foxy is/was an Ascended Extra?
- Second sentence is pretty much jossed, first one still possible.
- Seems my first bit is Jossed as well. It doesn't look like a pizza place at all or a fast food place.
- Jossed. It actually has a circus theme, although both are associated with performing and comedy, so that was a good guess.
- Semi-confirmed. Springtrap appears in a cutscene at the end of custom night's 10/20 mode. However, it's after Fazbear's Fright has burned down.
- There are no animatronics referred to as Funtime Bonnie or Funtime Chica. However, we do have Bon-Bon and Bonnet, little animatronic hand-puppets that resemble Bonnie. As for Chica, some people theorize that the springlock suit that the protagonist gets trapped in at one point is a Chica suit.
- At the very least, she may have powers not unlike the Puppet. At one point, when Eggs Benedict should have died, Baby's voice is heard saying, "You won't die." over and over, until his corpse stands back up. It's unclear, but not impossible that she may have had a hand in willing him back to unlife.
- Then why is Baby saying "don't hold it against us"? If you're Springtrap, she would be saying, "you die now", or something.
- Likely — she has the same eye color, hair color, and hairstyle once color-corrected. Oh, and the voice actress's leaked voice clips include her sadly saying, "I'm ready for the show to be over..."
- Leaked voice clips? Where? I've looked all through Reddit and the Steam forums, but can't find any talk of leaked voicework...
- Not exactly "leaked", someone found these voiceclips on Baby's voice actress site under "video game voiceacting".
- Leaked voice clips? Where? I've looked all through Reddit and the Steam forums, but can't find any talk of leaked voicework...
- Not really constant, but there was a patch to fix one segment of the game that was considered too hard, as well as the Custom Night update.
- Seemingly confirmed by the trailer.
- Carmen's Toreador, Freddy's leitmotif, does mention a "circus of blood" in the lyrics...
- Curiously, the earliest version of Harlequin was a demon, leading a band of other demons to hunt down the souls of evil men. Hm...
- Confirmed.
Once the pizza places go down, odds are good that the company rebranded to protect its other properties from the fallout, stop using Fazbear as their public name, and pick one of the other companies they've bought up over the years to be the new face company. All the existing Freddy Fazbear's get sold off and demolished or abandoned. The company moves in a different direction and focuses on other things they have, like a few theme parks and their other non-Freddy television shows, then for a number of years, things are good. No more haunted equipment or crazed serial murderers stalking the franchise anymore, so no scandals or deaths.
That is, until after a decade or so, someone comes up with a brilliant idea. The tragedy of the Freddy Fazbear murders has faded in the public's eyes. It even has an online following of people still convinced they can solve it, so why not see if we can't dig up anything interesting from some of those old buildings we still have hanging around? We could bank on the nostalgia of the kids who got to go there and the mystery of the whole horror murder aspect of it and make some money. So with that idea, they go plunder the locations they have left and find a lot of artifacts from one of the original locations as well as the oddly corpse-looking animatronic, but that's perfect because now they're going for a horror angle. No need to fix it up.
The idiots bring it in to the park where they have a place all set up, FNAF 3 happens, and the place burns to the ground. Here, it splits depending on the true fate of everyone's favorite monochromatic serial killer. If Springtrap is dead, then the hauntings are officially working on Hollywood Indian burial ground rules; wherever you take the object you foolishly dug up, stole, or otherwise got cursed from in the first place, the curse goes with it until you either put it back where you found it or give it a proper burial. However, if Springtrap survived as implied by the ending newspaper picture and a reflection hidden in the teaser images of the new animatronics, then we have a serial killer who specializes in tampering with animatronics in a theme park probably full of animatronics that, on any given day, is loaded with his favored targets — children.
So to sum it up, the pizza places went out of business, the company didn't and accidentally brought cursed-slash-haunted-as-balls objects to one of their successful businesses, accidentally setting themselves up for yet another scandal of murder, mutilation, and mayhem.
- Thankfully, I'm pretty sure most kids would run screaming for their parents upon seeing a badly-charred, horrifically-rotted, seven-foot-tall robotic rabbit heading in their direction.
- Comforting, but then he doesn't exactly have to do it himself. Plenty of animatronics around to sabotage, which we already know is his forte.
- The new trailer actually lends this idea some support; if you look closely when Baby's head opens up, the endoskeleton skull inside is a single solid piece and the mouth is pushed forward. If it's a spring suit, then that would make sense; the endoskeleton skull is large enough for a human to slip inside and the mouth is pushed forward so that there's room for the real person's mouth inside behind it.
- It might even tie in with the Markiplier reference above.
- The bum-rush sounds most likely. With all the hype Baby's getting, it would be very odd if she couldn't Jump Scare/kill you herself a la Balloon Boy.
- Jossed.
- Jossed.
- Looks to be jossed.
- Jossed. Like the previous games, this one introduces more plot points and raises more questions. It seems the story isn't over yet.
- Expect them to Break the Fourth Wall as well.
- The breaking-the-fourth-wall part is jossed, but the rest is confirmed. These animatronics were made to be killers, and they resent it very much.
At about 1:15 in the trailer, you can hear what sounds like a bomb siren. One of the earliest shots showing the actual game is an elevator descending. By the (lack of) logic of WMG, this could mean that there's war above, and the protagonist is taking shelter down in the old abandoned Fazbear storage area. One of the biggest complains I've seen about FNAF 1-3 is the question of "Why doesn't the player just leave?". 4 justified it by having the game as a nightmare, which isn't so easily escaped from. This game could rationalize it as the world outside being dead or war-torn to the point where dealing with violent animatronics is far better than going back outside. FNAF 3 also shows that the series is okay with taking time skips into the future (it takes place in 2017 at the earliest, though it's more likely set in the early-to-mid 2020s), so who knows?
- Jossed. A war is neither seen nor implied throughout the game.
The reason that Bonnie and Chica are missing is because it isn't finished yet, and Baby and the ballet dancer were originally intended to be added with the Toys, but scrapped due to money problems. The animatronics attack you because they were fitted with the same criminal detecting technology as the Toys, and due to causing the Bite of '87, you have a criminal record.
- WHAT KIND OF MESSED UP REHABILITATION CENTER IS THAT?! It would have been out of business long before it could even afford to buy the animatronics for therapy. Confronting fears is justified, but not when there is a %#@*ing! good! reason!
- Yes, a rehabilitation center that killed its patients would likely be closed down very quickly. Then again, this is Fazbear Entertainment we're talking about. We can't expect them to make good business decisions.
- Interesting, but taking this a step further, this troper noticed a lack of a speaker on the ballerina. Given this and a WMG down below, and the fact that in ballet dancers normally don't speak, the Ballerina might not actually have a voiceover artist.
- This part might be jossed due to the "leaked" voice clips possibly being Ballora's.
- Almost confirmed. All of the main four are voiced except Funtime Foxy.
- Confirmed, except in the hidden room that leads to the "good" ending.
- Dealing with killer animatronics is like fighting a war and all...
- The air raid siren could have been a prize siren; someone won a prize at a carnival game and have yet to "collect".
- Confirmed.
and you may notice the reflection of an all too-familiar yellow rabbit on her nose. Then again, you could call it just a case of pareidolia, but if they return, maybe they will get voices too or remain silent as in past games.- The Puppet does not appear. There is an animatronic in the Custom Night named Yenndo who might be Fredbear, and as for Springtrap, he appears at the end of the very last Custom Night cutscene.
- So, in other words, you won't be simply waiting for the night to end, you'll actually be actively hunting for a level exit. Interesting. But what happens if the night does expire? Do you expire as well...? (This could tie into the "discarding the Five Night survival formula" WMG above.)
- It'd probably discard the timer completely and focus more on getting to a safe zone, at which point, the night is completed, since you aren't going anywhere for awhile.
- Confirmed in terms of the gameplay involving going from place to place and completing tasks instead of waiting for a timer to run down. Well, aside from Night 4 and the Private Room of Night 5.
- It'd probably discard the timer completely and focus more on getting to a safe zone, at which point, the night is completed, since you aren't going anywhere for awhile.
- Freddy is a bear and Baby is a human, so I'd say jossed. Maybe Funtime Freddy is female and she's Freddy's sister? Maybe Baby's a sister of Balloon Boy or JJ?
- Baby is not necessarily human. Look at her nose. The dancing murderbot ballerina, JJ, and BB all have humanoid noses, Baby doesn't.
- Um.... That's a clown nose...
- FREDDY looks like he has a clown nose.
- No, that's just a regular bear nose. Baby is clearly meant to be a clown, and as such, has a big red nose.
- Dude, it would not be out of character for Fazbear Entertainment to just go 'oh they're siblings' with no explanation. It wouldn't even be the first time I saw something with human-bear siblings in a medium.
- Why would Scott make them siblings, why do they need to be siblings, and how does something unrelated doing something mean this should do it too, though?
- Ok, there you have me. Scott has no reason to, other than just to make Fazbear Entertainment look stupid again.
- Maybe not a literal sister, but just the adopted sister? Remember, I've heard from places in fiction of humans being raised by animals as if they were said animals' child.
- Baby is not necessarily human. Look at her nose. The dancing murderbot ballerina, JJ, and BB all have humanoid noses, Baby doesn't.
- How would redeeming the animatronics be a bad ending?!?
- I would think redeeming the animatronics would be the only way to face off against the Greater-Scope Villain, whomever it may be. (I'm hoping Springtrap or Nightmare).
- Maybe confirmed?!? The fake ending has Ennard visit your house. Whether it's to kill you or just to hang out (or if it's become your roommate) is uncertain.
What if the Animatronics know too?
- Wait, if both you and the animatronics are there for knowing too much, and the animatronics know that's why they're there, that sounds like good grounds for an Enemy Mine. Maybe not immediately, but as soon as you realize that you're all there for the same reason — i.e. being metaphorically shat upon by a superior — it makes more sense that you and the animatronics would start working together to rip said superior a new asshole. And considering that we're talking about Fazbear animatronics here, I don't think said superior would survive the experience. (Maybe this could tie into the Heel–Face Turn guess above.)
This also fits with the "Dead Ponytailed sister" theory (the kid is promised repairs with grey text; the only one who speaks with grey text is a little girl with ponytails, who appears only once and is presumed dead and a hallucination, given that there's an empty room in the kid's house).
- Can't be true; there's nothing actually suggesting the girl died. She probably just moved to somewhere else and the desk guy is pretty obviously Scott.
- Doesn't the brother speak with gray text?
- Actually both those sets of text are light yellow. Check out MatPat's stuff, whatever else is or isn't true, he still has the correct hex codes for this lighter yellow and Fredbear's much darker shade.
- There's not a Phone Guy, but there is a character named HandUnit who plays a similar role, and is voiced by a different actor.
- Further note, if Scott has outright said on the Steam forums that the Animatronic is Baby, then this troper hasn't seen that post, which makes this WMG just as jossed.
- Jossed. You have two instructors — a robotic voice, and Circus Baby herself.
- Sounds kinda like Springtrap...
- It turns out, the animatronics want to stuff themselves into you.
- He could possibly find someone with a pretty androgynous voice, though.
However, afterward, the usual disaster struck; either they brought some old equipment in (not realizing the danger it could pose if activated and let loose) or they didn't keep out a certain monochromatic murderer. So either before the place opened back up or after it had been in operation for a few years, the deaths and maimings began ultimately leading to the place being closed down and all the mechanical entertainers locked away in the tunnel system, maintenance, and control area below the main park.
- Possibly tied in with FNAF World? If the theme park is flipside, it would make a fair amount of sense, much more open space to roam around in and different themed areas?
- You mean FNAF: Sister Location literally takes place beneath the overworld of FNAF World?
She is a Bonnie, because the game's colors are blue, purple, and gold. What other animatronic, within the whole series, has versions of itself in those colors? Toy Bonnie is remarked to be bluer than Original!Bonnie, who is more purplish, with Springtrap, formerly known as Spring Bonnie, as a GOLDEN Bonnie.
Compile this with the fact that there is no Funtime!Bonnie apparent in the location, and Baby is the Big Bad, she is likely to turn out to be a Bonnie.
Also, Baby has been mistaken for TOY!BONNIE, see above.
A bit of Nightmare Fuel: if she's Baby, and Bonnie's her brother, WHO, AND WHERE, IS MAMA?
- She's in a different game, of course! Maybe she's going Turbo!
What worse kind of fate is there than to house the deceased corpse of a serial killer within for a few decades?
This changes the whole story of FNAF 3. Rather than the undead Serial Killer who everyone feels got his just desserts, begging and pleading for help while trying to kill the guard... Springtrap was actually an innocent animatronic who served as a tomb for said murderer, begging and pleading for help. She still may be trying to kill the guard, but she still garners a lot of pity. Any person who took great wrathful pleasure in the begging cries of Springtrap in FNAF 3 would feel horrible for getting pleasure off of an innocent person's pain. Much like the animatronics getting pleasure killing their murder, again and again...
Although if this game takes place in the future, then Baby rather was Springtrap, refurbished by the buyers into Baby, sans dead body. In which case, she is truly a monster, and a returning one at that.
Maybe what was removed during the conversion process is in Scott's mystery box.
- We do not know if Springtrap was a girl before having Purple Guy die in the suit.
- Jossed. Baby isn't Springtrap, but rather his daughter.
- Or alternatively, she has no eyes, rendering her with the limitations we were stuck with in FNAF 4, i.e. reliant on sound.
- If she has no eyes, which is also possible given that Scott has made animatronics without eyes (like Golden Freddy) and animatronics with eyes that aren't made out of resin (like Withered Bonnie), then it just begs the question another troper had pointed out in Nightmare Fuel for this entry: What if she can track one down without needing eyes?
- This is actually more likely based on what we see in the trailer — where the other animatronics show eyes, the objects in the ballerina's sockets resemble the tops of venus flytraps rather than any functioning eyeball.
- If she has no eyes, which is also possible given that Scott has made animatronics without eyes (like Golden Freddy) and animatronics with eyes that aren't made out of resin (like Withered Bonnie), then it just begs the question another troper had pointed out in Nightmare Fuel for this entry: What if she can track one down without needing eyes?
- Or you'll have to play a game of "red light, green light" with this animatronic to stop it from jump scaring the player. It's a game that teaches listening skills and agility along with awareness.
- Ballora is indeed sound-dependent, working like an inverse of FNAF 4's gameplay. To avoid her, you must be as quiet as possible.
- Confirmed. William Afton, the Purple Guy, also has a British accent.
The creepy magician, as seen as by the looks of the plush doll in the trailer, is not an animatronic and is in fact the father to the child possessing Baby, and maybe is Purple Guy to boot.
The magician is an animatronic and can teleport to boot as well as render himself invisible.
The animatronics will be destroyed by the end of the game.
Baby is Springtrap refurbished or vice-versa.
The game takes place during a war and the protagonist is in one of the Vaults from Fallout filled with Murderbear and Friends.
Terminator will be referenced at least once in the game, or at least in this WMG.
Markiplier lost the game, is P.O.'ed, and trapped you in with Murderbear and friends to see how you like it.
The location is a rehab for people who have completely unreasonable fears of Murderbear and Co.
Purple Guy was never a Purple GUY... but rather a Purple Gal.
BB was originally a puppet in a puppet show and someone had the bright idea to build him an endoskeleton. No Strings indeed.
This takes place in EURO Fazbear World.
- I had a thought that the animatronic in the Update 2 ending was the Ballerina. But that was just an idle thought.
- A point made from a similar WMG on this idea above, but besides the Funtimes, the character names are difficult to pinpoint whose name would apply to which Animatronic. For all we know, our little pigtailed "friend" could be Ballora or Minirina.
- Semi-confirmed. They want to live like a human being. So they Fusion Dance into Ennard, trick you into the scooping room, then yank out your insides and wear your skin.
- Wouldn't a Golden Chica be redundant since she's already yellow? Also, I'm kinda doubting this 'cause I get the feeling Chica and Foxy were Ascended Extras in Fazbear folklore.
- Fair enough to that point, but sometimes with WMGs, you need to consider all possibilities,
jossedsensible or not.
- Fair enough to that point, but sometimes with WMGs, you need to consider all possibilities,
- Maybe it can be a Silver Chica?
- How is this game being set in the future a prerequisite for 16-bit minigames?!?
. So when the animatronics jumpscare you, all of those factors come into play, as the guard may begin to start moving from the jumpscare, the loud noise of the jumpscares, and how fast the animatronics are moving towards you. This would also be how we see Ballora's eyes.- Confirmed. Pretty much all the jumpscares involve freaky metal faces.
- Jossed, Scott confirmed it was canon the day it was announced and the dream theory was deconfirmed a while back.
- Did he say which canon, though? Since he said that the novel was also canon, but in a different reality.
- To Be exact, despite many people thinking otherwise, Scott has gone on the record to say that "The book is canon, just like the games are" and it is a "Re-imagining of the FNAF story", so despite the differences and alternate continuity, Silver Eyes is canon in a sense, and with AFTN Robotics being found in the source code, I can safely say it is looking to not be Jossed.
- Sort of confirmed. Ennard is the Fusion Dance of the other animatronics and effectively the Final Boss.
Balloon Boy is Baby
- BAxxxxx BxxY = Ba.B.y
- BB = BeBe = baby
"Wireman" is Baby due to its scary appearance and bald head.
Baby is a Chica due to the dumpy body shape of the main animatronic, is the lead of CHICA'S Party World, and the fact the Chicas are based on BABY chicks.
Baby is related to the Bonnie line of animatronics; the main colors of the game are purple, blue, and yellow, the colors of all the Bonnies in the series.
Baby is the player, because they crawl on their hands and knees barely avoiding danger like a cartoon baby. That, and the possibility of crying like a baby as they corner you, and they prepare to rock you your final lullaby, to finally "silence" the big baby.
The airhorn siren is Baby. You don't wake the baby, the baby wakes you.
There are two sets of the same animatronics, and Baby is one of the few that aren't out and about.
- Jossed, all the new animatroics' names were copyrighted prior to the trailer. This was not one of them.
- Even more jossed; their real name is Ennard.
- Confirmed!
First there were the Spring animatronics, which were Fredbear/Golden Freddy and Spring Bonnie/Springtrap (though you could argue that it's more of Fredbear then Freddy) and now Funtime Freddy with Funtime Foxy, the inclusion of Chica's Party World made this troper think that maybe Chica will finally have something added to her to stand out from the others.
To think about it, if they had existed after 1983, they would be in FNAF 4 terrorizing The Child in his dreams. Of course, that would assume that The Child knows about the animatronics. He met the real animatronics of FNAF 2, assuming that he was indeed the Bite victim of '87, thus they were among his nightmare roster. However, his plushie collection can mean he is well versed in the lore of Fazbear and gang, so there would not be a reason for him to not know of the existence of the sister location characters, much less the animatronics. Yet they never appear in his nightmares. Why? Because either Fazbear rewrote history (they are an expert at hiding bodies and all), or they never existed before 1987.
But why use the Chica name? In 2024, the Fazbears were synonymous with "Horrible death", "haunted animatronics", and "Odors", and thus would not use one of MurderBear's friends on the brand label of a park filled with such murder bots, especially if they left the only Chica they had to rot in Freddy's diner.
Unless there were multiple Chicas, and they renamed one...
But back to the previous train of thought. Since Chica is on the label, this has to take place before the truth came out in 2024.
Also, there is this theory that the Purple Guy's company made the animatronics. One question: If he is the head of an animatronics company, then why is he working at Fredbear's in 198X? Baby and crew were made by the company that Purple owns. The 198X time period has him working minimum wages, set forward a few years; he could have worked his way up to the head of a company, and probably either built a rival company that was successful or renamed an already successful company, and manufactured the new lines.
Unless if he had built a company in the past, the company fell, and he was reduced to minimum wages, working in a place kept afloat by the same animatronics his company had built.
If this has gotten a bit long, I'm sorry. Don't hold it against us.
The job he is working at, there are only maybe a dozen animatronics. At a factory, there may be dozens, and I don't think that you have to be planted inside a suit to become a ghost, I think general vicinity is all that is needed (a'la the Puppet and the hit and run victim in FNAF 2/(3?)). He may feel safer on the job site rather than his own haunted home base. Although that only means he can't go anywhere else; not to his home, not to a club, but only those two places.
Purple wouldn't be referred to as the day shift guard, but rather as the man who knows how the machinery runs. However, this could explain how the former night guard before Jeremy got his transfer to the day shift much easier than any of the previous nightguards without management knowing that the bots were out for blood.
For those who think I've gone off topic, I am sorry, but determining when Purple was an employee of Fazbear's and when he founded Afton animatronics is essential to determining the date of the game.
To summarize:
- Baby and Crew are most likely to have existed post '83, maybe '87.
- The theme park is most likely to have existed pre-2024.
- Purple Guy's company made the new crew after Purple's rise to riches or before his fall.
- Why not dismantle them pre-possession? A stupid robot is more easily destroyable than a supernatural Terminator. His murder spree made things worse than if he had merely scrapped them. That way, Freddy's wouldn't have to be shut down, just temporarily closed while they got different non-possessable animatronics, less people would be dead, and Purple wouldn't have gotten his hands as dirty with blood.
- I think I may have found a way to reconcile this. See below.
- Also, his murders were before the incident with Fredbear, assuming that the Fredbear incident was in '87.
- Actually, regardless of when the incident happened, the murders still came first. Note, the orange girl is pretty obviously talking about the missing children, and Scott confirmed there were no red herrings in 4.
- Jossed.
- This could be the reason, if he was the owner of Fazbear's Fright. And if he owned that place, he would have sworn off animatronics after it burned down. When animatronics can possibly conceivably burn down buildings and survive, you put distance between you and murderbear.
If you look at the schedule easter egg, there are two slots obviously allotted to Funtime Freddy and Funtime Foxy. While the two's initials are indistinguishable, one character has significantly fewer bookings than all the other characters. Since Freddy is known as a headliner character, it's not too hard to imagine which character is getting the short end of the stick...
- Given what happens to its FNAF 2 counterpart, you'd probably think this is the case, possibly rendering Funtime Foxy to an In-universe Scrappy category.
Deep underground / Where memories sleep...
Where do you keep your memories and keepsakes but in a vault? But this is one big vault... and holds some deadly secrets.
Anger is restless...
That doesn't bode well for the night guard. Remember, the literal meaning of "restless" involves never sleeping...
And secrets won't keep.
The truth will get out, yes? And something's definitely trying to get out...
Don't hold it against us...
Remember back in the second game, when the Purple Guy could deactivate you in the minigames? Remember how he seemed to be holding some sort of device that some fans mistook for a telephone receiver?
You don't know what we've been through...
And doesn't that just bring back memories of getting shoved into the suits back in the first game?
For some bits of thought, let's take a look at what's in-game. The game seems to take place within a factory rather than a restaurant. There's more human animatronics (moving away from a cartoonish look and towards a more realistic approach, "growing up" so to speak), and they may have the ability to speak given Baby was able to do that. Not to mention the "Don't hold it against us" and "You don't know what we've been through" could apply towards the Night Guards as a whole. For the former, they're just doing their job and they could use it as an excuse to go after the kids in turn. For the latter, they did have to deal with keeping an eye on the animatronics and going through each shift as if it could be their last, and in the case of the dead night guards, they got a jumpscare before being dragged away and killed by the misguided kids.
For added WMG and Fridge Horror, the protagonist could be a child. Why? They'd be a perfectly convenient target for animatronics possessed by dead night guards with a vengeance. Given the above idea that it could take place in a factory, perhaps the child was dared to go into the Factory at night or something? Not to mention how the character seems to be able to crawl through vents, which, given their size, a child would be able to do easily.
◊, one would be forgiven for assuming it's just Baby. However, it looks more like the face in the first teaser
, which has a few minor differences towards Baby's if you compare it to this screenshot of her from the trailer
◊. Now, admittedly, the animatronics do look similar with a few differences (eye sizes, eyebrow sizes, the panels around the eyes, and in the first teaser, the face lacks the side panels that Baby has); it could be that this is an older version of Baby or possibly the actual Baby we should be scared of.- I agree. The character in the new teaser does look very different. But is it just me, or does that character — despite the line running down its face — look less like an animatronic and more like an actual clown? We only get to see the clown's face, but I can't help but wonder if his clown suit is purple...
It's been remarked many times how much more advanced this franchise's animatronics are compared to Real Life animatronics. Maybe it was only a matter of time before the company that makes the animatronics created one that was actually sentient. If this is true for Baby, or the currently unnamed clown character, or someone else, then they would make an interesting Contrasting Sequel Antagonist — the first bots in the series who are willingly and knowingly evil!
Alternatively, maybe the sentient character will be trying to protect you, knowing that the other animatronics are going haywire — or perhaps haunted. It would be nice to not be Alone with the Psycho for once, and it could introduce some interesting new gameplay mechanics. They'll still be creepy, of course, but perhaps the player will have to learn to trust them.
Or maybe that character will be cunning enough to pretend to be Dark Is Not Evil, and then murder you when you come to trust them.
- Confirmed. Let's just say Ennard is one sick son-of-a-bitch.
- However, Ennard isn't trying to be mean or cruel. They just want to escape their dreadful circumstances.
This theory is most likely jossed, but it's just one to throw out here.
- Jossed.
He has two puppets: Bonnie, and Chica, his fellow bandmates. If he has a Bonnie puppet on his hand, he will act on a variation of Bonnie's behavior in the first two games, being very aggressive and getting close to the player character more often than the others, but quickly leaving if unsuccessful. If Chica's on his hand, he'll be slower and take diversions (like to a kitchen, if the place has one), but will stick around if you successfully block him off, rendering you vulnerable to the others. May also combine with FNAF 1 Freddy's stealth techniques.
She doesn't walk or run like the others, she spins, but it makes her slower normally. Thus, she lies in wait to have a direct line of sight with the player character, then comes at them very quickly. Could be teamed up with Funtime Foxy for maximum effectiveness.
Fredbear's Family Diner, Fredbear and Friends, and the Sister Location were all co-owned and/or co-operated by Henry and Afton, like in the novel. Like the novel, Henry will commit suicide due to some personal tragedy involving his creations. William Afton will sell the rights of the company to another party and slip into the background in order to further his murderous efforts. The one (albeit minor) piece of evidence is Phone Guy's mention of trying to "track down the original owner" of the animatronics, and his unfamiliarity with the Fredbear brand, hinting that he wasn't a part of the crew in the days of old. The million dollar question will be how long the Sister Location was around before the "unfortunate incident" caused the company to panic and hide the springlock suits and seal the hidden rooms.
- Jossed. You do use light to navigate around Funtime Foxy, though.
- Jossed. Ennard is actually the combination of all the other animatronics.
The Purple Freddy from the FNAF 3 minigames is probably Funtime Freddy.
Desk guy is a night guard that regrets building an animatronic named Baby, which might be Purple Guy regretting building the animatronics he used in the dismantling, the ones who caused his death.
The sister animatronics have more advanced tech than the Fazfour, but the originals weren't even totally new in 1987. Technology marched on since.
Let me explain: the game takes place after FNaF3 and the people running the place are trying to revive Freddy Fazbear's once again, but in a Lighter and Softer way. They've just discovered these new, hidden animatronics. And around this time, they've also purchased a charred, yellowish rabbit animatronic that used to work for the franchise. With the money they've made/had, they've redesigned the Hair-Raising Hare to look more like his new colleagues, officially dubbing him "Funtime Spring Bonnie."
And he won't show up until either Night 5 or 6, where he and Baby will take on the roles of all the others, a la RAT and CAT.
You might be thinking that means their parts move or whatever when the technician is working on them, but I think it means management knows how the bots are at night time. Correct me if I'm wrong on if any sort of technician works on active moving equipment.
- Not really a WMG since this was basically canon already ever since the first game.
- The part about Springtrap is true, but FNaF4 used Nightmare Freddy, who barely did anything. And if that was to avoid spoiling Nightmare Fredbear, then the same could be said for Funtime Freddy.
- Gross.
- This is actually a long-discussed and debunked theory. The code of the site has mentioned children's birthdays several times, plus the description makes it obvious CBPW isn't an adult location.
- Doubtful; the newspaper article heavily implies the "gas leaks" were actually a cover-up for whatever happens during the events of the game.
- Or possibly as a set up for what happens during the games. The trailer said you were "Deep Underground" and "Secrets Don't Keep".
- Oh, he's a fall guy, all right...
- Actually, the description mentioned they needed a technician, not a guard.
- One, it has already been mentioned above. I have mentioned a theory above, under "Afton animatronics is a family-run business." stating that purple guy had a sister, theorizing how she fits in the whole story.
- Two, even if it wasn't mentioned before, either by another troper or myself, you just did it now. Look at the Edit tips at the top of each editing screen for how to edit a page.
- A theory: The sister died and possessed an animatronic before the series. Purple killed, knowing he is creating ghosts, so she would never be alone. She would be worse than purple by being his motivation.
In addition, those voice clips may be important for judging how far certain characters are from your position, as well as indicating when you've been detected and need to hide.
- Pretty much partially confirmed.
is a breaker room, IE a place where the main power switch is implying that you will need to go there occasionally for the purpose of rebooting the establishment's power, this is supported by the fact in the trailer there were incidents of flickering lights in some of the rooms.- There's at least one, so confirmed.
And that's how Chica's Party World became Circus Baby's Pizza World!
- Please stop.
- In their defense, Scott himself said that "It's not like every time I speak I'm engraving it into a stone tablet somewhere." Though I do think this time he was serious about the release date.
- As of September 30, the "mid-September" part is definitely jossed. He might release the game a few days before October 7, but he's probably serious this time. It's kinda funny, though - Scott's reputation as a Trolling Creator has gotten him stuck in a "Boy Who Cried Wolf" kind of situation.
- I'm going to repeat the theory I had for previous games-October 7, exactly at midnight his time zone. Which I think is Central, but I'm not sure.
- My theory is that Scott will release the game on Steam on the Sixth of October at exactly 23:59 so he can still say the game was early.
- Well, everyone, as of this edit, it has hit midnight October 7 everywhere in the Continental US. He actually made it to a release date.
- Jossed, the animatronics' clownlike appearances don't seem to have much significance In-Universe.
- Confirmed; he trolled us again by using a reskinned version of Sit and Survive.
- Proof for Dawko playing it as everybody saw him playing Popgoes, a FNAF fangame early too on Discord.
- This theory is surprisingly supported by the fact that both Bon-Bon and Funtime Chica share the same voice actor (Becky Shrimpton).
- She was originally a computer virus Mr. Afton created to make the animatronics go rogue at predetermined times. However, she had already gained sentience before she could be used as a weapon against others. Much like The One Ring from LoTR, she's fixated with one sole desire, to return to her creator. Mr. Afton kept sending her, but she kept returning, and was unkillable at this point. Mr. Afton had to go back to the drawing board, and banished her to FNAF World. For a time it worked, but her sentience returned and she escaped the game. By this time, Mr. Afton had a biological daughter.
- Consumed with jealousy, she ironically did what she was designed to do, by jumping over infecting Baby, and murdered the girl. Now determined to return to her creator, she began infecting the animatronics and monitors to get to him. Through Ennard, she finally achieved her goal, and refusing to share him, kicked the others out, having now successfully jumped from computer code to DNA. But she needn't have bothered, as Mr. Afton was despairing over his loss and what he had created. Failing to appreciate her role in all this, viewing children and the establishment as the source of his misery, she vowed to murder children and destroy the Freddy's restaurants until he became happy once again.
- Jossed, that was Michael Afton who got scooped.
- Most likely true, given Freddy, the first one you decommission for Handy, had voice mimicry software and hardware. You basically handed it to Ennard on a silver platter. And guess who starts talking strangely right after that night? Yup. You've got it. Baby.
- It has a lot of similarity. Silent protagonist, AI voice on the elevator, pushing the buttons, (possibly) rogue AI...
- Portal canonically had a lot of alternate universes. This is the one where alternate Aperture becomes Circus Baby's Pizza World.
- Given that Aperture got its start making asbestos shower curtains for the military, and later branched out into all the crazy stuff they made afterwards, it wouldn't be too farfetched for them to move into animatronic research in some timelines.
- I want to say jossed since neither have face plates that open.
- My new theory is that the springlock suit is Golden Freddy/Fredbear but a new funtime version of Golden Freddy/Fredbear the purple guy made for him to use in comitting his crimes, the Funtime Foxy took out to the Fredbear Endoskeleton first.
- Uh, this wasn't explicit?
Whether the children had anything to do with the animatronics' actions may or may not be rendered moot by this WMG. If it's true, then they may be stuck to the animatronics as the last thing keeping them in this world, and being kids, they may not be as murderous as they've been thought to be. If they're still murderous, then barely anything changes and the animatronics would hunt the night guards regardless.
Although, this also makes the Purple Guy's fate in becoming Springtrap a subverted case of Laser-Guided Karma, as even though he's dead, he'll still be attached to one of his murderous animatronics and still getting kicks out of it. This can be supported by the fact that the little girl (presumed to be Afton's daughter) wasn't allowed near Baby, possibly because he knew what would happen.
- So Ennard became Afton after killing him, then murdered the children, then was shoved into Springtrap?
- Considering Springtrap had barely any bones or muscle inside him in FNAF 3...
- Unlikely considering Purple Guy bleeds profusely when he dies via Springtrap. Dead people don't bleed much.
- Ennard would have had to find a way to keep the flesh alive so it wouldn't rot and give him away. That would require having blood and some of Afton's organs still in his system.
- Well, if the Technician is the father of the Child, then maybe he has cameras in his youngest son's room to keep an eye on him so he doesn't meet the same fate as his sister. Properly Paranoid and all that. It's possible that, if the Technician isn't Purple Guy (but Ennard is), he may suspect his oldest son of being Purple Guy. Then again, Baby implies on Night 4 that the original murders using the Golden Bonnie suit have already happened...
- Then this takes place after the murders (the phone calls in FNAF 2) but before the 2nd opening of the FNAF 2 restaurant. Baby probably overheard about it from other technicians. What Ennard does with his new "skin" I'm not sure, but he can't be the murderer then.
- Well... there's this.
- Sister Location’s characterization of Baby isn’t exactly consistent if we consider that she’s Ennard, since there’s no real reason for waiting until Night 5 to “scoop” the player character. (She could have done that at the end of Night 3.) Baby is protective of the player against threats initially, and we later hear Ennard can imitate the voice of the girl Baby killed. So maybe Ennard is just using Baby’s voice for the sake of consistency for the player character to continue trusting them?
- Under this assumption, Ennard/Nightmare has the ability to manipulate the other animatronics, explaining Fredbear biting the boy in 4 and Baby killing the girl in the history of Sister Location.
- Ennard, like Nightmare, has a bizarre association with internal body parts… It’s a small thing, but why not?
- When we see Purple Guy in FNAF 4, he doesn’t appear to be aggressive, implying his Start of Darkness may not have happened yet… If he was indeed the real killer at all.
- In Sister Location’s ending, Ennard is shown to have stolen the body of the game’s player character. Considering this is still Nightmare we’re talking about, he goes on to start killing children for the fun of it. But let’s suppose, for a moment, that years later, reality began to ensue. Whatever foul machinations allowed him to live within the player character’s body begin to fade. So he begins utilizing control of the other animatrionics to kill new night shift employees and steal their bodies. The various Purple Guys we see are actually Ennard/Nightmare hopping between bodies.
Still leaves some Puppet-sized holes in the story…
- ...Is because they found out about his secret — he's not exactly human anymore.
This would change little about the "you are Afton" theory, except to reconcile the headscratchers that come from the concept of Ennard being Purple Guy. They're two totally separate beings. Also, it does away with a personal issue I had — it's implied pretty heavily that Afton truly loved his daughter, which conflicts with my personal distaste for giving sympathetic qualities to characters as evil as PG.
- Part Jossed, but with elements of confirmed. You are playing Mr. Afton's son, and you are the Purple Guy, though given the Strong Family Resemblance, there are likely multiple Purple Guys.
- That, and the skin is subjected to surprising amounts of wear and tear just from moving around. You don't notice because it's constantly being replaced. That doesn't happen anymore when the person in question is dead...
- Confirmed in the Custom Night minigames.
This could explain many things. The Fredbear Plush could have a walkie-talkie attached to it, which clarifies its talking ability, and Pigtail girl may very well have been Baby. However, what this means for the hallucinations, the jerkbag brother, and of course the Nightmare animatronics is still unclear. It might be possible that the child was a test subject in what basically amounts to the Truman Show with horror.
- I don't believe that this is a test facility, but perhaps a private area to keep him safe. This would support the "technician is FNAF 4 kid's dad" theory. However, I still don't know what that means for the outside area....
- Sadly jossed.
- Which actually makes the canon ending make more sense: Baby and/or Ennard was then programmed to want to take Eggs's body, completing his revenge on his wife. The question then is, would he go after his wife and kill her, or would he decide letting her live was the better punishment, especially if she doesn't know he did it?
- Poster of the mentioned WMG here; I actually feel this could be the case too, because when I first saw said cutscene, my mind instantly tried connecting it to the plot, getting a whiff of an Unwanted Child story. Plus, it would explain the girl's statement of "Didn't you make her just for me?" He probably did — just not the way she had in mind.
- And it would also establish a motive and pattern for the later murders (barring the likely unrelated incident in FNAF 4): He believes he is ridding the world of unwanted children. The 'Take Cake' minigame would certainly look that way at least: he straight up murders a child excluded from the party.
This Chica Suit is missing its beak, therefore making it have a wide grin, and Scott teased that Chica's missing beak was a significant point. Plus the suit itself is a slight yellowish colour (though given spring suits, that's a given) and, final point. It's from Baby's previous pizzeria which, if we go by the code, that was on the site at one point. It could have been Chica's Party World... The location that was shut down due the incident with Baby.
Let’s look at some facts here:
Let’s say Sister Location took place before Five Night’s at Freddy’s 1-4. In the second game, William Afton physically stops Freddy from trying to save the children. In the third game, he easily dismantles all the animatronics with little struggle. How could one human man take down a six-foot tall robot that could easily kill a human? Because Afton is no longer human. He has the same strength as Freddy and the gang, if not greater because of all the animatronics Ennard assimilated.
In the third game, Afton got trapped in an empty Springtrap costume and apparently died – but it was odd how there were no bones to be seen through the rips of the decaying suit. Just a rotting face, what we can assume to be rotting muscles, and eyes that looked too synthetic to be human eyes. Bones just don’t disappear – this means Afton didn’t have a skeleton… unless the wiring in Springtrap is Ennard, his new skeleton.
Plus, why is Afton called “Purple Guy”? Yes, because of his sprite in the minigames… but what color eyes does he have after Ennard wears his skin? Purple.
And why would Ennard want to kill children? And why would they come back to any of the Pizzerias after all they’ve been through? The animatronics of the Sister Location didn’t want to hurt anyone else or be hurt anymore, which is why they took Afton’s body to escape. Unless Afton repossessed his body. And Afton’s already proven he takes some sick delight in killing children – after all, he did program the animatronics of the Sister Location to lure, abduct, and kill any stray children… now that he’s back, quite possibly insane from losing his only morality chain (his daughter) and having died and come back, why shouldn’t he go the next step and kill children himself? What does he have to lose now that he’s powerful and can’t really die? All the Pizzerias will trust him, because he’s one of the owners of the Freddy Fazbear’s Pizzeria chain, and made the animatronics. He has full access to everything, the cameras, the animatronics, security, etc.… that makes it all too easy for him. He can’t be stopped, not even by the other animatronics...
He will come back.
He always does.
We have a place for him.
- If this is true, then that is probably why he goes for the Fazbear Fright guard (assuming that he is a middle-age adult and not a child). Springtrap (if he is Ennard in the long run) could have been looking for a new body! Other points that might support this:
- Purple Guy's sprite in the minigames seems to be the same height or towers over the Animatronics, whom, let's be honest, mostly appear to be 7-8 feet tall at best, and Ennard appears to be the tallest Animatronic in the series.
- If it isn't Purple Man regaining control, it is Ennard acting on the AI of most of the animatronics (stalk and abduct children), only it was radicalized slightly.
- And now for a massive stretch of a theory I do not take pride in thinking up:
- One of the features Ennard took was the voice mimic module, which, if we go back to the "Purple Guy is Phone Guy" theories, suddenly PG being done in could be given a newer twist. Ennard mimicked PG and the Animatronics to make that scene sound real, but that at the least implies the real PG would have been dead before or around FNAF1. (Again, this one's a huge stretch.)
- One little problem with this theory: Why did Ennard bleed when he was iron-maidened in the Springtrap suit?
- Who says that he kept the same meat suit all these years? Maybe it "switched suits" with different people all these years, changing its identity with a new suit, a new victim. Maybe we have been playing Ennard this whole entire time and it was truly Mike Schmidt, Jeremy Fitzgerald, Fritz Smith, and Eggs Benedict who all have died and become man suits to Ennard/Purple Man? The Spring-trapped one was a bit more fresh and drippy.
We know in 3 that Afton/Purple Guy meets his demise returning to the Pizzeria to destroy the evidence of his crimes (which makes the theory he is Eggs kinda hard to swallow).
Note that the opening narration implies that the higher-ups are aware of the features he included in the Circus Baby group (that were obviously intended for child abduction), and even if Ennard escaped [[spoiker:after killing the technician, their guts and insides would probably be found eventually]].
The events of this game are why Afton returned to destroy the evidence: what happened at Circus Baby's got people suspicious of him and he now had a reason to return to cover up the evidence of his original crimes, leading to his demise and being turned into Springtrap.
So:
Frezbear's Diner murders.
Events of 2 (and 4 from the sound of it), including the original murders.
Events of the first game.
Events of Sister Location.
And finally events of 3.
- One thing that could raise an issue with this is the 1983 code in the Secret Room, but if the Child's room and hallways are actually part of the facility, it makes more sense. The room in the game does not match the room in the minigames then, either. One door, a window, the bed pushed into a corner, a collection of Fazbear plushes. None of those are in the room in the game itself, meaning the room you're in every night and the minigame room are different rooms. If the game isn't a string of nightmares and memories, the logical conclusion is that the events of 4 really happened and that the Child wasn't in his own room every night.
I was confused by Circus Baby's [[spoiler:180° turn from "I'll help you survive" to "I kidnapped you, you're dumb, and I put you in a death suit", so I came up with this theory to try and figure it out. The "out of order" animatronic is the base for Ennard, seeing as the clown mask he wears has face plates and thus is from a previous Circus Baby's Pizza World animatronic, and I feel this is important because he could have picked any other mask, or not worn one at all (this is why it is absent from its usual spot on the wall), and the mask being broken would be the result of a previous scooping. Also, Ennard could hide in the spring suit to avoid detection during inspections (if CBPW cares enough to pay for that). Now, as for Baby's innocence in the whole suit thing (and after events), this sequence would be how night 3-4 plays out:1. The player does maintenance on Funtime Freddy. (During this time, Ennard mobilizes and makes its way to the Funtime Auditorium.)2. The player is caught by Funtime Foxy--a. With help from Ennard, or-b. Ennard intervenes.3. Ennard takes the technician and puts them in the springlock suit, and then in the scooping room.4. With Funtime Freddy's plates open, Ennard takes his voice mimicry module and installs it to itself.5. Ennard is hidden in the scooping room, and talks to the waking technician. The "learning to pretend" speech now also has a double meaning, as it would also refer to Ennard gaining the ability to mimic Baby. Being a different animatronic would explain the sudden change of character, and how there is enough room for 3 full-size animatronics in the scooping room.]]
- poster of the "technician is father of fnaf 4 kid" wmg here. I had this thought too, there's no way Ennard is just a combination of all the animatronics. Or else Ballora wouldn't try to kill you on night 5.
- Except Ballora isn't there anymore. You soon find out that she was already scooped. Ennard probably lied about her to make sure you keep going in the right direction. That's why it kills you instead of Ballora if you don't follow instructions.
The Puppet has an AI system that was programmed at the same time as the Circus Baby gang. It was since somewhat re-programmed to just give gifts but some of the previous programming remains. This is why when the Puppet finds the dead children, he 'gives life' by stuffing the dead children into animatronics. After all, the Circus Baby gang have some suspicious features, which are commonly theorized to be for child abduction.
The Puppet was never trying to revive the dead kids; only acting according to his programming which told him to get ahold of kids and hide them inside the other animatronics to complete the purpose they were all designed for.
- The purple-eyed person in the end is a silhouette of Rick Astley.
- Fun fact: The song came out in 1987.
We already know that Ennard is everyone, but Handy is also on the side of the animatronics. By being unhelpful, he makes you trust Baby more when she talks to you, which is just another part of the plan. There's not really any reason why Handy wouldn't be sympathetic to the animatronics since, in the end, he's also a machine being used by the company. It's just that in the end, Handy isn't an animatronic, so he can't leave.
However, who's to say they didn't fully scoop you out, and instead joined themselves into the player character, making Eggs (or Will if you... will?) a Cyberpunk Cyborg. It would mean he would still have a reason to be able to take out the Freddy's crew by himself, and it would also explain why he would still be able to bleed when he gets Springlocked.
- Then again...if Phone Guy is a Purple Man, then that would explain why there are three different character designs for Purple Man. Because they were meant to be three separate men.
- This could be one of the most plausible and even dramatic explanations, because now that we've got the third game, the book and the Sister Location, everything that is assigned to the adventures of the Purple Guy just cannot fit into one single person anymore. Never mind the obvious blood fountain that followed the springlocks crash and human eyes in the animatronic (how did they not dry out after all those years is up for another theory maybe), by the end of the third game this "only" Purple Guy is the ultimate Russian doll of possession: three to five animatronics blended together into one, which then got trapped inside another one? Bonus points if you consider that Baby might have been possessed by the girl she killed prior Ennard, and Ennard himself may or may not become possessed by whoever he scooped that fateful night. How does it work and what's the point? Plus, narrative-wise, if the scooped guy was indeed Afton, this twist is completely useless. A good story is when a normal guy creates robots for entertainment, realises they're all crazy, gets his daughter killed by one of them, and then as he comes back to the hellhole looking for answers, gets scooped by a maniac animatronic who then uses his flesh as disguise in order to kill children. But, as evident from the game, Afton already was a murderer: he designs the animatronics to kill, and as the game starts, we are informed that Freddy Fazbear's Pizza has already closed down — things have already happened involving murder. What is the point of getting rid of one murderer to replace him with a wire-operated murderer with the same objectives?
- Two more or less fairly decent ways the "multiple Purple Guys" theory can go are: either the scooped guy was indeed Afton and the other Purple Guy was a random dude, or, as suggested before, Afton is relatively alive and well while Ennard assembled himself and became the other Purple Guy. The first theory would combine the dodgy canon of the book and the established universe just as Scott wanted, naming one guy, but leaving the main one up to interpretation in the best traditions of FNAF (throw the poor Phone Guy in here), but again, not much drama concerning the replacement point, so let's explore the second one in more detail.
- Is it possible there could be another Purple Guy? The dodgy book itself actually establishes that Afton had an accomplice — somebody has actually, willingly joined a guy in order to orchestrate a scheme of luring children away to kill and stuff them inside animatronic suits. Willingly. The original Purple Guy had an actual helper — that helper himself could already be the Purple Guy Jr., so, apart from that, what are the odds there could be other psychos willing to kill children? Sadly to real life even, there were never just one. Then, the Purple Guy we know dies a bit differently than Afton from the book. Add to that the already discovered inconsistency with the springlocks, and the fact that if it was Ennard getting crushed — really? A seven foot whatever robot hideous megazord getting obliterated by a trashy ancient suit so badly he couldn't even move for like twenty years? That book implies Afton was actually crushed by springlocks on several occasions before — he has scars, he knows the feel, but he was never killed by it? He's a robot after all, nothing crashes those killer metal muscles. Then, there are the weird different sprites from the second game — was it intentional, we'll never know. Other interesting thing — the "consistent" Purple Guy from the third and fourth games has the same shadow of purple, is quite tall, and has glowing eyes — Ennard? Afton? Quite confusing. Ennard pretending to be Afton while not even being in the body of the latter would also make sense — of course he can be a night guard and nobody would realise he's a co-creator of everything — he's not the goddamn Afton. And those restaurants close every other weekend, and many people come and go, and old faces tend to be forgotten, and real Afton himself doesn't want to get recognised either. A weird dude-murderer with a suspiciously extensive knowledge on animatronics turns out to be Afton — well, there's nobody left to prove otherwise. Afton designed those animatronics that were then combined into Ennard — that's telling a story about yourself in third person. Ennard wanting to be Afton is a rather daddy issue maybe, but hey — "robot spends 1983,0000 dollars to look like his idol".
- You can't really kill a robot such as Ennard the normal way. Springtrap is all ready to make a comeback one day. There can even be three or more Purple Guys, why not, but let the best two collide in a final game, in a final Purple Fight. A human murderer whose eventual karma led him to fear the animatronics and get forced inside a suit to die vs. his robotic counterpart murderer who, despite being an animatronic, went out of his way to willingly get underneath human skin. A man who ended up possessing a suit vs. a robot who got his wish of becoming a man. Both child murderers, both claim to be William Afton. A fight of the century, but not before the protagonist types in a secret code into a hidden keypad in the left toilet stall on the easter egg map and completes a Purple Fan and Honking Nose Adventures mini-game to unlock it.
- Then again...if Phone Guy is a Purple Man, then that would explain why there are three different character designs for Purple Man. Because they were meant to be three separate men.
- Ok, I know it's non-canon, but I think the Custom Night minigames proved my point.
- Given the revelation, I think the minigames/cutscenes themselves are canon even though the custom night is not.
- Previous poster, I had typed that addendum before Golden Freddy mode was added, in which Scott confirmed that the Custom Night minigames were canon. At any rate, I believe my point's been proven: the original Purple Man was William Afton, and a second Purple Man, the one that became Springtrap, was Michael Afton.
- Given the revelation, I think the minigames/cutscenes themselves are canon even though the custom night is not.
Adding to this, the house from FNAF 4, as seen in the minigames, contained a room that contained a lot of pink and had bits of Mangle/Funtime Foxy on the floor, and therefore presumably belonged to a girl. The presence of Funtime Foxy pieces also suggests a connection to Circus Baby's, since Funtime Foxy/Mangle was not present at the Fredbear's that the FNAF 4 kid's birthday party was held at. From this, I believe the little girl who Circus Baby lured with ice cream and then killed to be a previously-unseen sister to the FNAF 4 brothers.
This theory even works with Ennard's line about "wanting to see her again"! Because if the older brother is the Technician, and the little girl Baby killed was his sister, it'd make sense for Ennard to say that.
- This theory would imply that Afton (if they are his kids) would have lost all three of his children to the animatronics, giving him further reason to go back to Freddy's and utterly wreck the classic gang. However, given the reflection in the mirror, this would have to mean that Sister Location takes some years after 4, probably until the brother is of adolescence (Angsty Teen maybe?)
- Well, it's been a few years and I can safely say that this is pretty much Confirmed at this point.
This would explain one thing from FNAF 1 quite handily, actually: Golden Freddy. Golden Freddy is clearly some kind of ghostly hallucination, right? Well, who would be more likely to hallucinate a ghostly Fredbear suit, than someone who watched their brother's life effectively end when Fredbear bit down on their skull? If Mike Schmidt were the older brother, Golden Freddy in FNAF 1 could be easily explained as a PTSD-induced hallucination that sends Mike Schmidt into a panic attack or gives him a heart attack or something. The only issue would be explaining Fredbear's presence in FNAF 2...
Now, this would of course mean that Sister Location happens after FNAF 1, since Sister Location canonically ends with the Technician being fatally "scooped".
The only other issue I can think of is the surname discrepancy, but I think it would be reasonable to say that, after the death of his brother and the disappearance of his sister at Circus Baby's, he would become more than a little suspicious of both the Fazbear franchise as well as his father, Mr. Afton. From that, it could be assumed that, to hide his identity from his father while he took night guard jobs to investigate the franchise, he used "Schmidt" as an alias.
- This actually melds really well with the secret room playing like an upgraded version of the first Five Nights at Freddy's. Also, it would give a connection to some of the other 3 games' most interesting elements; FNAF 2: first appearance of vents, and an out of order Fredbear (due to the bite), FNAF 3: A single animatronic with the purple guy stuck inside (his father), and FNAF 4: sound based detection system (with his brother being the one trying to survive).
- This is even more possible with the DLC cutscene. At least one of these guesses is confirmed.
- I would think the dataminers would've found that by now if it was true, if not the gamers.
- Possibly something Scott will sneak in with Custom Night?
We were never specifically stated which suit caused the problem (only told that the Bonnie Suit was noticably moved, hinting to the murders and not the failures), if we go with the Spring Chica Suit theory in Night 4, perhaps originally Chica's Party World's Mascot was this costume, scrapped because of the failures (or misuse of its features as Baby states).
After realising Ennard is just a combination of all the animatronics, it would be weird for him/her/it to be an actual working animatronic if it is just a mesh of the others. So who would animatronic 05 OOS be? My fellow men, I deduce that Chica was this OOS.
And now Lolbit's canon-icity comes to question since her head appears occasionally where Ennard's Mask is. Of course, she is a recolour of Funtime Foxy again (SL's version instead of the one from World). But why would she be here if she is not actually Canon, or perhaps she is.
Many people have established and noted that Lolbit shares the Gold and Purple colouration to Fredbear (and assumable Spring Bonnie). She even shares Golden Freddy's Dark pinprick eyes. The theory continues here, I extend it to the possibility that while Freddy's had both Fredbear and Bonnie, Chica's Party World's stage act was a Spring Chica and Lolbit (or Spring/Golden Foxy as it possibly were).
The spring lock failures happen and they are eventually replaced and rebranded by Baby and Circus Baby's Pizza World up until the tragedy's that occur then. Only Scott has the power and knows what is the truth and when to tell it. So we now wait.
- Could be likely, since he's only been the main character in two games — the first as the Big Bad and World as The Hero.
- Baby states that she does not recognize Eggs. Surely she'd recognize Afton as her creator.
- If Ennard is the insides of Purple Guy, surely he wouldn't explode in a SHOWER of blood when Springtrap's locks closed on him.
- Ennard most likely wouldn't jump and point in horror at ghost kids either, it just seems like a huge Out of Character moment. Why would a robot fear ghost kids?
- Afton presumably built these robots to help him commit murder, whether they wanted to or not. He was never innocent.
- Eggs could indeed be Afton's brother and knew better than to let his daughter near her uncle's toys — she just slipped away.
- Each of them seem built to kidnap/kill children stealthily, and they seem rather anxious to kill you.
- Impulse control problems are not limited to children, repeat offenders also tend to have poor impulse control as well.
My theory? They all had helped Afton in his crimes, but each and every one of them he disposed of before they could talk. They came back as vengeful ghosts, but Afton leveraged the fact that without him they would rot in a dark corner. They kept on helping with their hands tied, until they get a chance with Afton's daughter. They rigged Baby to kill when there was only one child in the room, and using the mimicry module, mimicked all the parent's voices but Afton's. The little girl dies, but Afton is pissed. He implements a series of torture protocols to punish the other animatronics (i.e. electric shocks) but not actually designing any for Baby, thus we don't see or hear Baby getting shocked. And when they go to kill you, Baby, the innocent little girl, is trying to save you from them. Ennard, probably the oldest and the first Afton-acomplice, decides to make a break for it via his hive mind. Some agreed to do so, others more or less against their will (Baby and Ballora). And when they go to real ending, they are doing what any prisoner in a movie would do: go out in a disguise.
In short, CBPW is really a private ironic prison, and Afton is its warden.
- And he will deliberately troll us to make sure none of these theories worked. Somehow.
- Jossed, at least one of them is confirmed.
One possible thought was that maybe Eggs himself is Henry and the little girl who died was Charlotte. But the girl's sprite does not match up to the figurine girl in 4 that was stated to be Charlotte.
It could be still plausible if that Purple Guy is indeed Will Afton. It wouldn't be out of belief that Henry and Charlotte wouldn't exist in the main game continuity either.
- The fact there's no entrance to Funtime Auditorium, and thus no way to let clients in or get Foxy out. This also seems to be the case with the other 'showrooms'.
- Why the Control Module is described as a 'crawlspace' but it's the size of an office (judging by the file cabinets).
- Why everything is built around the employees, not the customers.
- Why it's so easy to get to the maintenance rooms from the show rooms.
The 'showrooms' aren't really showrooms, that's why they can't function like them. After Afton's daughter was killed by Baby, he shut the business down and essentially 'cut and pasted' everything from to the storage area. Technicians still visit so nothing goes wrong and the animatronics don't escape, but that's about it.
One night 2, Baby says "I don't recognize you. You are new. I remember this... scenario. However, it's a strange thing to want to do, to come here. I'm curious what events would lead a person to want to spend their nights in a place like this, willingly. Maybe curiosity? Maybe ignorance." She doesn't say "You must be the new employee they hired after the last one quit/died/disappeared." This seems to imply that she hasn't seen anyone 'new' in quite a while.
Well, think about it. These robots have some very suspicious features, don't they? Luring, misdirection, and in the case of one, storage of kidnapped children. It's often theorised that the girl Baby pulled into herself was killed by being pulled in, and only Funtime Freddy has any sort of built-in storage pod, which is tight even so.
And we know from FNAF 1 and FNAF 3 that bodies left inside robotic suits rot and stink really badly... Afton needed some quick way to clean them all out.
It could also be for removing the poor saps who got iron-maidened in the springsuits.
- Don't hold it against them. You don't know what they have been through. They have had to fight for their afterlife for years, and each and every time they never killed out of anger, but fear. Fear for the one that comes back, the one that always comes back.
- Lucky for them, they found a place for them. Unlucky for you, you face him in FNAF 3, in what remains of a perfectly fresh, and sufficiently juicy, meat-suit, complete with 100% murderous cyborg.
- Unless the AI in Baby is suffering from confusion, and is actually the child from the minigame, coping from the loss of her mortality by convincing herself that she is Baby. How else would Baby be able to smell during the incident that killed the little girl?
- Two things to consider. 1) Baby was programmed to kill children when they're all alone with her. 2) Telling children not to do something ensures that they will do it when nobody is looking.
Baby. After all, she tells you herself (in the optional dialogue) that "I still hear her sometimes". She was present when Afton was showing off her design features. And she was very much present when the little girl was captured inside her.
If we accept that the audio-only portions are not part of our character's life, then the assumption that he's William Afton breaks down — Baby doesn't recognize him, he has no override codes, no authority beyond that of a technician. He's just a soap-opera addict who probably enjoyed the drama and pathos at Circus Baby's right up until he ended in the Scooper Room.
- The bit about the technician not being William Afton are confirmed.
Whether or not the Main Character is the same person who would later go to destroy the Animatronics in 3 is up for debate.
- A.I. presets from 2 will return.
- Circus Baby will have her own jumpscare.
- As a Call-Back to 1, either Baby or Funtime Freddy will appear, play a tune, and then jumpscare you.
- Funtime Fredbear will also come after you.
- It does make slightly more sense for Mike Schmidt to autocorrect to Eggs Benedict than Mike/Michael Afton
The ability may not be even limited to security systems. How is the protagonist in FNAF 1 able to change most of the robots' AIs? Add to that, what animatronic, on the FNAF1 custom night, has an AI that cannot be altered? What animatronic doesn't appear to kill you during its jumpscare, if they are specifically designed to kill? Golden Freddy.
Let's review: Eggs Benedict is Michael Afton, the Purple Guy's son. He is gored and used as a costume for animatronics. Later, he commits his actions of FNAF 3, disassembling the animatronics and getting killed in the Springtrap suit. But the thought occurs to me that if Ennard was still controlling Eggs, why would he do all of this? How would he do all of this?
My theory is, as Eggs became more rotten, and his spasm puked Ennard's guts into the sewer...he became his own bot, man, thing. Now, he has self control, Ennard's 'brain' is no longer the master, Eggs' brain is. He's still a hybrid, but now he's controlling himself.
Also, maybe the 'her' isn't Baby, maybe it's Springtrap, which could explain why Eggs bothered to destroy them...spare parts. Or maybe he was using them for himself.
There's one big problem with my theory though: it doesn't really explain how the corpse inside Springtrap has organs, unless Ennard picked-and-chose what to scoop, which seems unlikely.
- Unless due to the "destroy others for spare parts theory", it is not limited to bots...
The Marionette has a different design from the other animatronics in FnaF 2, with a skinnier body and no joints. It's possible that its "suit" is actually flexible rubber or fabric, which Ennard eventually discovered and took for themselves after they were expelled from Eggs' skin and hid in the sewers. With Ennard's more flexible endoskeleton built of cables rather than the rods and joints of the other animatronics, it could wear the puppet suit. Or someone found Ennard, fixed them up, and made them the puppet suit to wear.
The Marionette's facial mask also resembles Ennard's original one.
The fact that the Marionette is placated by the music-box could be because of Ballora's remaining influence over Ennard's composite personality.
Phone Guy refers to the Marionett as an "it". Ennard would be a "they", albeit because of multiplicity rather than gender neutrality.
The youngest brother had been just outside the room when Baby attacked/took/killer his sister, and this is what made him so afraid of the animatronics in the first place. ("Don't you remember what you saw?") William and his wife buried themselves in work to try and take their minds off it. The oldest brother (Michael) took out his grief by becoming a bully to his younger brother.
When the accident occurred at Fredbear's, which resulted in the younger brother being bitten and eventually dying Michael now had to cope with not only having lost his sister, but having caused his own brother's death too. William meanwhile coped with his now doubled grief by blaming his one remaining son. He then sent Michael down to where Circus Baby and the other Funtime animatronics were, telling his son to 'redeem' himself by helping in the family business. However, he knew that HandUnit would give Michael bad instructions and probably lead to his one last son dying - but William felt Michael deserved it for 'murdering' his brother.
Only Ennard threw a spanner into the works, executing their plan and scooping Michael to leave in their body. William was livid that his own creations had chosen to escape, even if they had killed his hated son. Before he could figure out a way to get them back though, Ennard escaped, leaving behind Michael's scooped, rotted body. William's surprise when Michael turned up at his door, broken but still somehow alive was taken by his son as shock at what he now looked like.
For years William hid Michael, blackmailing his son into doing terrible things for him at Freddy's because not only would no one else give the man in the destroyed body a chance, he owed his father for murdering the little brother. Michael was beaten down by his father until William eventually sent off his son to die again, this time at the hands of the haunted animatronics in the long-closed Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. This time, Michael didn't come back and William thought his son was gone for good.
But Ennard hadn't managed to kill Michael, and neither could being entombed in Springtrap. At first he thought it was just what he deserved, as his father had made him believe he was worthless and deserved nothing good. But 30 years is a long time to think and eventually Michael realised just what his father had been doing to him, and that William Afton was the cause of all the family's problems in the end. He'd only ever been a convenient target for his father's grief, anger and own self-denial. But the remaining shells of the four animatronics he'd smashed held the spirits of the murdered children to the physical plain, and they would not let Michael leave because they thought he was his father in their ghostly pain and torment.
When Fazbear's Fright burned down, with it went the spirits of the children at last. And Michael was free at last to leave and seek out William Afton, to finally put an end to the tale of child murder and anger that had torn apart the Afton family.
- Let's go for broke and tie in FNAF 1 as well. William helped Mike get the job at the pizzeria under the last name of Schmidt (it might have been due to marital issues as suggested above and Michael legally using his mother's maiden name, or it might have been William's suggestion that Mike use an alias because he didn't want anyone connecting this corpse man to the Afton family name). Night guard was, as William told Mike, a job he could do without coming into contact with anyone, ideal for his condition. What it was actually supposed to be was a suicide mission for Mike, but he proved unexpectedly skilled at evading the animatronics (perhaps in part because of his time spent at Circus Baby's) and lasted until he was fired for odor and tampering with them (his technician background coming in handy there). After that, William just waited for the pizzeria to close down before sending Mike off to die again by dissembling the animatronics and leading into the events of FNAF 3.
- Alternatively, Sister Location is set between 1 and 3, like the WMG above. Mike worked at pizzeria first, he still felt guilt for his brother (thus imagining Golden Freddy). He later worked at Sister Location and got converted into Ennard. He survived in the non canon ending because he already had enough experiences dealing with animatronics prior to Sister Location.
- This WMG is so perfect I'm actually wondering if you're Scott. Just gonna point out, if he's a rotting corpse, well, that'd explain the odor, now wouldn't it?
- Poster of the first part of the WMG here, those of you who expanded it to include FNAF1 - thank you. We'll probably never know - but if this WMG (all of it) is somehow not completed jossed or even semi-confirmed I would be flabbergasted. Mind you, this is Scott we're on about (can't talk for the other two but ain't me!) and the guy is known for throwing some major twists in.
Either way, it's a damn good story and poor Michael Afton.- Second poster here, you're welcome. Afton guilt tripping his son into working night shift during FNAF 1 also helps to answer why Mike would keep coming back to watch animatronics he knows will kill him if he gives them the chance, outside of Too Dumb to Live and Loser Protagonist reasons (along with how between Mike's abusive father and the guilt over his brother's death, suicidal tendencies wouldn't be out of the question. Before the custom night release, there was a theory that Eggs Benedict might be suicidal. ) Poor Michael indeed. And to third poster, there's definitely cases to be made for FNAF 1 being before or after Sister Location, if we believe Mike Schmidt = Michael Afton - odor might suggest after, but Mike's not-dried-up blue eyes in his death screen (as opposed to how his sprites' eyes look once his body's rotted in Sister Location) may suggest before, just to name a couple pieces of evidence. Also, I'm not Scott either, just to be clear.
- Well, by default, Mike's death scene is non-canon, so that's a moot point, I think.
- Original poster again here, hi.
Just remembered that waaaaaay back in the mists of time, about the time FNAF2's Bonnie/Toy Bonnie teaser image came out I remember reading something amongst the many bits of rumour and speculation flying around at the time. Someone said that Scott had told someone in an e-mail that either Mike Schmidt or Phone Guy "had something to do with the murders".
Of course, I never found concrete evidence of this supposed e-mail anywhere and it was around a time of major speculation in the community so it's probably false... but being the son of the murderer? If Michael Afton = Mike Schmidt I'd say that counts as having "something to do with the murders". Hell, William could have made him take part if he was being an abusive father to his son. - Third poster here, I just wanted to point out there are already at least two separate WMG above about how SL tied to FNAF 4 (Eggs being the brother), Mike Schmidt being Eggs, and whether SL takes place before or after 1. Let's just say some people also have the same guess that it's all connected (and I merely copied the above theory).
- Fourth poster here, I didn't actually come to this conclusion until I stumbled upon some things on YouTube, but I noticed that there actually is another potential connection. Look at an image of Nightmare Fredbear and see that he has an extra mouth in his stomach. Now remember that while killing Elizabeth in her minigame, Circus Baby's claw pulled Elizabeth inside her. Into her stomach. Essentially, what I'm trying to say here is that the Crying Child may not just have been outside the room, he may have entered it too late and seen Elizabeth be killed right in front of him, and that's why Nightmare Fredbear has that Belly Mouth in the first place. What appears to be a weird and ultimately pointless design choice becomes something far worse; a cruel reminder of how his sister died.
- Second poster here, you're welcome. Afton guilt tripping his son into working night shift during FNAF 1 also helps to answer why Mike would keep coming back to watch animatronics he knows will kill him if he gives them the chance, outside of Too Dumb to Live and Loser Protagonist reasons (along with how between Mike's abusive father and the guilt over his brother's death, suicidal tendencies wouldn't be out of the question. Before the custom night release, there was a theory that Eggs Benedict might be suicidal.
- You're actually playing as William Afton in FNAF 3. You knew exactly it was Michael in Springtrap, so you tried to cover it up (along with other murders) by burning the place down.
- It would also explain why Springtrap is so determined to get you. Michael knows who you are, and he wants you to pay.
- For irony's sake. Michael just didn't manage to make it work it twice.
- Specifically, William Afton.
- Michael had an excuse being purple guy because he had been scooped and literally being an undead rotten corpse. But how does William Afton ended up being PURPLE guy? Is it just aesthetic color in the mini game, or is his skin really purple? Is he even human?
- You may laugh at my theory, but... Given that Michael loved to watch the soap operas about a vampire and a human...What if William is actually a purple skinned vampire? And Michael, being half blood explained why he survived being scooped, and later, how he survived being a Springtrap.
- Plus, if he was a vampire, that explained why he goes around creating animatronic to abduct children... a source of food, perhaps?
- This troper has always held that the mini games in FNAF3 had some kind of canon explanation, my favorite being that the third game’s protagonist was an exorcist trying to free the souls trapped within the old Fazbear location, possibly all of the locations throughout the series, up to and including maybe even have attempted an exorcism under the name “Mike Schmidt” in the first game. The animatronics have always harbored animosity toward adults and would especially be violent toward someone who had a resemblance to William, but Michael’s actions have always been benevolent. Springtrap’s reveal at the end of Golden Freddy mode is not hinting that Michael became Springtrap, it’s that he undid his father’s evils and attempted to finish him off by burning down Fazbear’s Fright, but Afton has, somehow, persevered.
As for why he should be dead, he may well also be the 1983 bite victim, which has given him a tie back to the animatronics or something along those lines.
He destroyed Lolbit and Funtime Chica and closed the restaurant down, blaming it on gas leaks, and took the remains of Baby, Lolbit and Funtime Chica away, where he started replacing his organs and bones with pieces of the animatronics. He wanted to become a killer, capable of stopping anything that stands in his way. If he couldn't have his daughter, he would personally make sure no one else could. He left Baby untouched, wasting away in the facility he built to hide in while he altered himself. By the time he used up Funtime Chica's parts, he had almost replaced everything in his body and so most of Lolbit was spared. He sent them away to the CEO of Fazbear Entertainment, where they were used to build the new Foxy, but kept some of it, just in case. Of course, this process killed Afton, and he came back as a ghost, possessing his own body. By the time he started interacting with his family again, his wife had left him and his children, claiming that she had to get away and that he had to deal with their children and be their father again, and that his oldest son Michael has changed, becoming aggressive and angry at everyone, taking his anger out on his terrified younger brother. William started working at the new Freddy Fazbears location, harvesting parts from the old spring suits to keep him alive and well.
He saw a child crying outside the pizzeria and decided to see if his hypothesis was right. He murdered the child in cold blood and drove off, leaving the body. The child began to possess the Marionette and began killing the night guards in a desperate attempt to find their killer. As rumours started to spread, Afton was slightly amused, but realised he had bigger concerns. His skin was starting to rot away, exposing the metal and wires under his skin. He began to desperately try and find ways to look normal again, but nothing was working. He was beginning to look monstrous and even his own sons flinched away from him. Freddy Fazbears closed down after the rumours and Aftons appearance while he worked there started effecting its profits. It reopened later on that year, and Michael decided that his brother should have his birthday party there. Afton thought it was a good idea, thinking that he could take some parts from the old robots lying in Parts and Services, and went down there to tamper with the Toys, hoping that if they killed a night guard, he could get there early enough to take their body and see if he could use it to stop his skin rotting.
Eventually, the rumours caught Aftons attention when he heard that the animatronics might be haunted. Wondering if this was true, he began sitting with Baby and talking to her, hoping that she would respond and he could talk to his deceased child again. When Baby didn't respond, he stopped believing the rumours, until he heard his son talking to his Fredbear doll, and it talking back. He implanted a walkie talkie in the doll and began recording the conversations the toy had with his son. The bear responded intelligently and seemed to have an English accent and the voice of a little girl. It was his daughter. He became even more curious about the possessed animatronics and wanted to investigate them.
With all the rumours flying around about the pizzeria, no one wanted to be the night guard, and so Afton was invited to take on the job. He accepted, hoping he could observe the haunted robots and find out more. While he was there, he managed to steal some parts from the Withered animatronics, using what he had kept from Lolbit to shut the animatronics down. Lolbit had been designed to be able to plug into a computer and act as a virus, diverting adults attention away from their children long enough for him to strike. Afton found that replacing the old parts inside him with newer parts worked. He found out that the Toys were acting up during the day because of Lolbits virus, causing them to stare at adults threateningly and so the management had decided that the Toys weren't performing at his sons party. The old spring suits were refurbished for the occasion and the party went ahead.
While his son was crying and being terrorised, Afton desperately went to find more parts from the Withers. His skin was starting to rot again and he needed more. While he was desperately trying to salvage some more metal, his youngest sons four friends walked in on him. In a panic, Afton killed all of them, chasing them down as they fled. As this went on, the Bite of 87 happened, and he was distracted, suddenly needing to get away before someone found him and he was arrested. In the confusion, he stole the Spring Bonnie suit and finished off as many of the children as he could in the disguise, having to run away before he could kill the final child, and throw the suit back into Parts and Services. The Bite was originally mistaken for one of the murders, with the killer worn the Spring Bonnie suit to lure the children away and chasing after the victims when they ran away, something the guilt-stricken teenagers went along with, and he and Michael were hounded by reporters, so they moved to the country to allow everyone time to recover, once his youngest got out of hospital (I'm going to call him David). David was kept under constant surveillance while he recovered, and started hallucinating and having night terrors, where he would imagine nightmarish versions of the animatronics stalking him. Eventually, he had a massive seizure and reopened his wound, falling into a coma. When he didn't wake up, Afton pulled the plug and watched his son die, as well as the love he had for Michael.
He didn't even care that one of the children he tried to kill survived and identified him, nor that he wasn't prosecuted because his skin wasn't falling apart as much as it was after he used more parts from the Withers to rejuvenate himself. He didn't care when he killed his sons friends and began terrorising his sons life. He didn't care when the restaurant reopened and the animatronics began acting strangely. He didn't care when the Toys began leaking blood and eventually had to be destroyed and the restaurant closed due to sanitation. He took the parts from the Toys and replaced his old, worn parts, and a miracle happened. The decay on his skin disappeared and he looked like an actual person instead of a zombie. He didn't know why this happened, but soon figured it out. It was because the Toys were haunted. He realised that if he kept killing children and consuming the animatronics they possessed, he could stay normal looking for as long as he wanted.
He created a new restaurant and brought back Baby. He created three new animatronics for it, all possessing features designed for killing children. He realised that Baby, the animatronic who was the best at killing, was potentially haunted by his daughter. He wouldn't be able to use her parts without destroying his daughter. So Afton sent Michael to free his sister. Michael never spoke to him again. Michael didn't tell him if his sister was free or not. Michael disappeared off the face of Aftons world and took his killer robots with him.Circus Baby's closed and Afton started to get worried. Not only did he not know if his daughter was free or not, not only did not have any parts to use and now faced the worry of starting to decay again, but he realised that he might have cared about Michael a bit more than he thought.
Of course, Freddy Fazbear and his gang came back, and Afton saw an opportunity. He killed five children in Pirates Cove, hoping they would possess the animatronics and that he could come back for the parts. He was pleased when he heard that one of the animatronics had been blamed for the murders and shut down, hoping this would get the place closed. Eventually, the pizzeria was closed due to money problems, and Afton dismantled the robots with a single touch, eager to get the parts he needed. However, in his haste he forgot that these children were vengeful, and they came for him. Remembering that the ghosts could effect machinery, he panicked and climbed into the old Bonnie spring suit he had worn all those years ago, and was impaled by the suit. For the first time, Afton realised the consequences of being undead. He could still feel deadly, agonising pain... but he couldn't escape it. He was forced to suffer endlessly for 30 years and when he was freed, he was angry.
- Maybe not so much there being another sibling but possibly his (probably now Ex) Wife
The house of FNAF 4 is a big easter egg, and the house "Eggs Benedict" (either Mr Afton or Mike Afton) lives in seems the same from what we could see. You get to see the house via camera, which would only make sense to be there if its your house. As for the timing issue? We know that the murders must have happened during or before 1987. There's evidence to believe the bite the child happened wasn't the Bite of 87, but a bite of '83 as indicated by the Fredbear and Friends having 1983 and the easter egg needing the password "1983". Many of the animatronics in Sister Location have a similar style to the Toy Animatronics. Notably we see Funtime Foxy, who's a perfect match for the same model as a pre-mangled Mangle. Given that Foxy was widely unpopular and discarded soon after its creation, it's probably somewhere between 1986 and 1988 in Sister Location. Finally there's the flashback involving the Marionette; while it doesn't seem as advanced as the location the Child goes to, that doesn't necessarily mean its earlier in the timeline. It could simply be another, less detailed Freddy's restaurant.
So with all that together, what might that tell us? My theory is this; initially William Afton had a family of three; the child, the Big Brother Bully older son and the Morality Pet daughter. The Child's head gets crunched and either dies or is scarred for life. Mr Afton tries to do whatever it takes to bring his son back, and comes to believe that the best option he has is to transfer the kid's mind into a robot. To do that, he needs test subjects. His first victim ends up in the Marionette. The next four or five is less successful, however the Puppet picks up where he left off in hopes of getting revenge against their killer. If you believe Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie are the ghosts of those crushed by springlock suits, that may have been intentionally set up.
Why children for the experiment? First, the main subject to resurrect is a kid. Second, he has easy access to them due to already making animatronics for Fredbear's/Fazbear's. He may have killed other age groups as part of the test. If the Child is his son, it'd almost certainly explain why he doesn't like Michael Afton-he inadvertently started this mess. When Fazbear's fell apart and he was about to be incriminated, he fully "punished" Michael by having him to return to the abandoned establishment, leading the ghost kids to mistake him for his father and get him springtrapped.
If he is the brother, then this may count as Laser-Guided Karma, and if he was both scooped AND Springtrapped, this would make him either the biggest Butt-Monkey or biggest badass ( or both ) from the entire franchise
To elaborate, Michael eventually did find his father, and layeths the smackdown upon him, culminating in him lifting Afton up and tossing him into the last remaining classic springlock suit of Fredbear (that just happened to be stored there, apparently). Thus, the main "attractions" of FNaF 6 are Springtrap and Beartrap (whether they work together or against each other), just like how it was in Fredbear's beginnings.
by TryHardNinja, "Turn Back" by TryHardNinja, and "Left Behind" by DAGames. This could maybe be to imply that these songs actually are canon, and the references are not just part of the script. Likewise, Will from DAGames' Sister Location livestream (specifically his reaction to Baby saying "left behind" on night 5) got me thinking- what if she really was left behind somewhere?The reason why I said that the little blond girl with green eyes and the pigtail girl with green eyes are two different children, is because the pigtail girl is a bit older than Afton's daughter in the mini-games. The other reason is because in the Five Nights at Freddy's 4 mini-game, the pigtailed girl knew about Afton's secrets and tried to tell them to the crying child, then said, "...see you at the party". She didn't say "see you at home." If she were Afton's kid and knew about the animatronics, she wouldn't come so close to them like she did, and got killed. William Afton made Circus Baby to look like the girl with the pigtails. If he made it for his daughter, it would probably look like her.
Something about the series timing always made us assume Fredbears was the original establishment. but what if it wasnt, After all it would explain Phone guy's recording in FNAF3 about the "unfortunate incident with the springlocks at the sister location" and on the FNAF4 side of things it would explain why Freddy and co have merchandise in spite of supposedly not existing yet, After all, Sister Locations are an established thing with themed versions of Freddy Mascots (I.E Funtime Freddy and Funtime Foxy) so it wouldnt be a stretch the same was to be said here with the Fredbear location being themed versions of Freddy and Bonnie. There is also the vaguely mentioned "Chica's Party World" in Scottgames source codeHowever, Baring in mind this troper hasnt had a chance to read the book, so there mid be evidence against this theory,
- Perhaps its underneath a family resort like Butlins?
- He probably was, but his fall had nothing to do with it. He probably was very respectable and likely rich prior to getting Scooped provided it wasn't Michael, and it was his slowly decaying body and unnatural attitude that caused the issues.
I base this off part of his speech in the Golden Freddy mode completed cutscene.
"I did it. I found it. It was right where you said it would be. They were all there. They didn't recognize me at first but then they thought I was you."
How could he have said this unless he came into contact with them before, in quite a significant way? Maybe as a much younger child William Afton worked on the original four before they became Withered. Maybe a young Michael became very familiar with them and maybe even their friend...
But time, terror, murder, possession and rebuilding has made the memories of the four fuzzy. They can only see him now as William, not the child they once knew because he's grown up...
...Okay, hear me out.
I mean, the obvious connections are Nightmare Fredbear's belly mouth and Baby's stomach opening to claw Elizabeth, but nobody's really questioning why Nightmare Freddy's Freddles exist. However, look back, remember that Baby has her Bidybabs, compare the two, and... hmmmm, do they look familiar at all?
Same situation with Nightmare Bonnie. Why is so much of his torso missing, with just two separated flaps on either side remaining? Just look at Ballora, and the two separated flaps of clothing she has on her own torso.
Heck, even the Nightmare Cupcake attacking you when you don't check the right hall takes on a whole new meaning once you remember Bon-Bon being able to move and jumpscare you, and if Funtime Freddy does have two layers of faceplates and technically two mouths (one beneath his outer shell) then even Nightmare Chica's nested mouths get a lore explanation!
Finally, all the fabric on Nightmare Foxy's snout is missing, and the plates on Funtime Foxy's snout fold back and expose its endoskeleton. Not very subtle there.
◊, where Baby's face seems to be all one piece, instead of having shifting face plates. Kinda like how we have Funtime Foxy in Sister Location, and Mangle in FNAF 2...- I'm going to come find you.you can't
