WMG / A Song Of Ice And Fire Cross

These are Wild Mass Guesses for A Song of Ice and Fire which cover meta-theories and theories about crossovers with other works of fiction or mythology

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Doctor Who Crossovers

The 10th Doctor is a Sorrowful Man

• Because he says "I am so sorry."

The Faceless Men are Time Lords.

They can be anywhere, anyone, at any given time. It's the only logical explanation.

Sweetrobin is The Master

Right down to guardians that make poor life decisions for him. Also his father's estates were the Eyrie.

The Tenth Doctor was the inspiration for the Sorrowful Men.

Before they kill people, an assassin of the Sorrowful Men always says, "I am so sorry." Remind you of anyone?

• No. The Sorrowful Men pre-date the Tenth Doctor by at least eight years.
  • Timey Wimey Wibbly Wobbly.

Beric Dondarrion was a Time Lord

That explains how he kept coming back to life. Presumably he got enough training to figure out how to control his regeneration, like Romana, explaining his lack of face-changing. Additionally, he gave up his remaining regenerations for Catelyn, as was demonstrated to be possible in "Let's Kill Hitler".

Anime Crossovers

The entirety of the series is actually an elaborate fantasy of Shinji from Neon Genesis Evangelion.

In which Shinji is Jon, Asuka is Arya, and Rei is Dany.

• In which Shinji is Sam Tarly, Asuka is Cersei, and Rei is Arya.
• In which Shinji is Dany, Asuka is Jon, and Rei is the Undead Catelyn

Dolorous Edd is an alternate universe Nozomu Itoshiki

Being in the Night Watch has left him in despair.

Melisandre of Asshai is Westeros' version of Amane Misa.

She kills people using rather dubious magical methods. She is a priestess of the Lord of Light. Yeah, everything adds up...

Planetos is earth, but its the earth of the manga Toriko

• The landmasses are bigger because the gourmet meteor hit earth and started growing around it. The sunset lands are the gourmet world. Did you think the long-winded description of food was was a coincidence!? This would make the Others evil ice cream.

George R.R. Martin's Intentions

GRRM is a Ricardian

Making Tyrion (the deformed, snarky Evil Uncleesque noble with bad publicity) one of the most sympathetic characters in the series was a deliberate invocation of the stereotypes surrounding popular depictions of Richard III in order to subvert them.

• This also seems to be echoed a bit in the character of Renly. Renly is also Joffrey's uncle, and likes his nephew about as much as Tyrion does and in the tv series, is pretty much openly shown plotting to murder him and Cersei, which really isn't all that bad of a decision. It's implied that this was the idea of Renly's boyfriend, Ser Loras Tyrell- note that the man who Richard supposedly had kill the "Princes in the Tower" was Sir James Tyrrell.
• Stannis also has some of Richard III in him; Renly is also a bit of a mixture between George, 1st Duke of Clarence and Edmund, Earl of Rutlan.

George R. R. Martin hates his characters and us his fans.

Honestly, why else would he write all of those horrible horrible things. No child, real or imaginary, should have to go through what those Stark children go through.

• Hates his fans? Probably not, although his poor understanding of, among other things, copyright law and fair use could certainly create the illusion of such. Hates his characters, on the other hand? No two ways about it.

Sam is based on George R.R. Martin

Martin realizes that if he were ever stuck in a realistic medieval fantasy, he'd be a total, ineffectual coward. Sam also loves to eat (hence his weight) and loves research as well, even telling Jon directly that he could learn a lot from the past. It's the closest thing we have to a person from the modern era dropped into a fantasy world, after all!

• For anyone who's ever read the Wild Card books and seen the main character George contributed to it (The Great and Powerful Turtle), it does seem he has a penchant for characters who are utterly convinced of their own worthlessness while still being incredibly potent in their own right. If it IS author protecting, then he's done it before.

• Sam seems based on Samwise Gamgee than anything.
  • Not necessarily. The name could simply be a Shout-Out, given his relationship to a major character. His self-esteem problems, arguably his defining characteristic, don't really describe Samwise that well.

Martin is a Troper

Calling Rickon's wolf Shaggydog was a clue to how the series will end.

• Or he's not- "Shaggy Dog" Story is a preexisting term, it could just be a hint that Rickon hasn't been doing anything interesting all this time...

The whole series is an elaborate practical joke on the reader.

Martin is deliberately writing the series to be as dark and horrifying as he possibly can, just to see how far he can push the fans until they break.

• So, George R. R. Martin goes to see his publisher and says "I've got a great idea for a new book series...,"

Alternate Readings of the Series

The books are in Earth's far future

• There are hints scattered around of lost abilities and technologies - in the description for either Dragonstone or Harrenhal the narrator mentions that the ancient builders had very skilled construction methods that allowed them to almost sculpt the stone into a desired shape. You could do the same thing with concrete and rebar for ten years, but if we say that some of the magic could be Clarke's Law style lost tech (like the Undying Ones' house), we could also assume the building techniques are also futuristic structures and materials that would last far longer. Also, if you mix some global warming, plate drift, and humanity-influenced erosion, Westeros could pass as North and South America.
  • Many depictions of Harrenhal make it look more like a medieval moron's impression of a dilapidated district of skyscrapers than any castle. Perhaps that's exactly what it is: an attempt to reproduce a very ancient and advanced architectural style with low technology which, predictably, failed.
  • Only if the Americas go through some mass shrinking. Westeros is only the size of South America. Unless the land beyond the Wall is North America.
    • There could easily be some credence to this, we know that the seasons of the entire world are really flubbed. If the wall is situated at more or less the future version of the Panamanian Isthumus, and the vast lands north of the wall are at a reverse seasonal point to the rather constant temperate seasons of the southern continents...
    • I'd be more inclined to believe that the equator is somewhere in or a few hundred miles south of Dorne, as that's described as the hottest part of Westeros. This would mean that the rest of the continent had shifted up (possibly a result of the cataclysm that fucked up the seasons?) and "The Land of Always Winter" is getting into the Arctic Circle/North Pole. Of course, this only covers about 4,000 miles, and the Earth is (as far as Google can tell me) about 24,000 miles from pole to pole, so either the Arctic Circle is much wider as a result of the seasons, or Sothoryos is even more brutally hot and unforgiving than Dorne. (Alternately, the planet of Westeros is banana-shaped and this is all a circle-jerk.)
    • Westeros could very well be South America. I point to a line from A Storm of Swords (p 46 in the US paperback). Arya Stark, fleeing Harrenhall, says, "See how [the moss] grows mostly on one side of the trees? That's south." This would only be true if they were in the southern hemisphere of whatever planet ASOIAF is set on. Westeros could be S. America, Essos might be some weird tectonically shifted Africa, and Sothorys is Antarctica. (See the comet theory below for the only way this might actually * work* )
    • Perhaps the Free Cities/Ghis/Valyria/etc are Africa having undergone massive continental shift (so that it rotated more or less ninety degrees and is mainly just in the southern hemisphere, sitting very close to South America (Westeros)), and the Earth underwent some massive Day After Tommorow style global calamity that rendered much of the Northern Hemisphere (ie. Above the wall) frozen and completely fucked with the weather and seasons.
    • Earth was hit by a stray comet that tilted its axis to somewhere between 45° and 90° (similar to Uranus), leaving the northern hemisphere at the time of the story pointing away from the sun. However, Martin has said that the explanation for the seasons will be magical in nature, not scientific.
  • And if that's true, then the Stark family are descendants of Tony Stark
    • And the Wall was built by Donald Trump.
  • And the Children would be American Indians.
    • Doubtful, unless they genetically engineered themselves to be the size of children, and to have claws, cat-like eyes, and four digits per hand.
  • Westeros is South America, as stated, and at the end the Wall will fall and the wildlings will die; Dany's conquering army will venture into the wild north and find the abandoned Lincoln memorial.
    • Or remnants of a statue.
  You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!
• Conversely, the books might take place in the far-future—but not on 'Earth.' The length of the seasons of Westeros indicates that the planet has a longer orbital period than earth, even though "years" are measured the same as our earth standard. Which implies that the ancient builders were ancient astronauts who terraformed whatever planet Westeros is on and their descendents eventually went medieval.
  • The length of the seasons of Westeros is random. They used to have three-month seasons, but some massive cataclysmic/supernatural event many many years ago (IMO, probably about ten thousand) threw off the path. Old Nan's stories state that once, seasons lasted a generation, which they no longer do — the ten-year summer is treated as being unusually long, largely in the context of dreading the unusually long winter to follow. This in turn suggests that the orbital pattern is slooooowly stabilizing itself. (I'm aware I probably fail physics forever in thinking this supports the Westeros-planet = Earth theory, but it makes intuitive sense so I'm running with it.)
  • The ASOIAF-planet is not Earth, it is a Lost Colony. The rest of spacefaring humanity has long rediscovered it, but does not contact and intervene directly because of the prime directive. The Iron Bank of Braavos is actually a front for Earthling progressors who try to subtly stimulate capitalism and industry. Only in a case of a total White Walker victory will the main Earth forces intervene and stop them with the nuclear option.
    • One of George R.R. Martin's earlier stories, "Bitterblooms" (collected in Dreamsongs) takes place on a Lost Colony where winter and summer last for years. And one of the main characters was a "witch" using Lost Technology from an ancient starship to fake magic, and other stories in the same universe had Psychics and in one case Cosmic Horror.
• Judging from rough geological correspondences, cultural references, and the fact that the series started out as being a fantasy analogue of the Wars of the Roses, it's pretty obvious that, if this WAS Earth, Westeros would have to be Britain. The Wall is Hadrian's Wall, the wildmen are Scots, and Essos is Europe. Valyria is obvious Rome (with a lot of Atlantis symbolism), with the Doom being a reference to Pompeii and the Thera eruption. Ghis is Greece, Slaver's Bay is the Sea of Marmara/the Black Sea, and Meereen is Constantinople. Those facts would also start to argue that time is somewhat cyclical in the universe of the books (similar to the Wheel of Time setting), and the events could either be in the far future or the far past of our current time.
  • If the Doom is the Thera eruption, which would make more sense given that wiped out a decadent civilization and didn't just bury a couple seaside towns, Valyria makes a lot more sense as ancient Crete than Rome. (Thera/Santorini destroyed the Minoans. Vesuvius has buried Pompeii a couple times, the famous one in AD 79 having the only lasting consequence that a lot of rich people said "Crap, now I have to buy a new villa.")
  • On an unrelated note (unrelated to the immediately above, I mean), this would provide an interesting explanation for why the names are so often common real-life Western names (not all of them, but many of them) given unusually phonetic spellings (Willem, Arrick, Lysa, etc) or Classical references (Oberyn, Janos, Cersei) in a context that would not have formed those names organically. Same with the word "ser", which is a more phonetic "sir". It suggests the Common Tongue is a probably degraded English.

Literature Crossovers

The Prince Who Was Promised/Azor Ahai is King Arthur.

That whole legend is based on the story of King Arthur and his round table, and Lightbringer (which may or not be Oathkeeper, Stannis' magic sword, or Beric's real flaming sword) is Excalibur.

• Unlikely, given that GRRM has a character similar to Arthur in Ser Arthur Dayne, the Sword of the Morning.
  • Other than having the same name, how is Ser Arthur Dayne anything like King Arthur Pendragon? If anything, the two characters (or groups of characters) who would appear to have aspects of King Arthur would be the old Kings in the North, for holding out against the Andal conquests, just as Arthur held out against the Anglo-Saxon ("Andal" and "Angle" sound and look pretty similar, which is probably not a coincidence) conquests, and Aegon the Conqueror, who preserved Valyrian culture in Westeros, just as, in one aspect of the Arthur legend, Arthur preserved Roman culture in Britain. And don't forget that according to Geoffrey of Monmouth, Arthur's coat of arms was a dragon.
• And how is the legend of Azor Ahai based on King Arthur anyway? Yes, it involves pulling a sword out of something, but in this case, it's pulling a sword from the fire, which is, after all, something done with all swords, not drawing a sword from a stone. Also, the only magic the sword in the stone had was that only the rightful king could draw it out; otherwise, it was just a sword. Azor Ahai is clearly a messianic figure, and the Arthur-myth is a retelling of the David story from the Bible, which would account for any other similarities.

The Drowned God is actually Cthulhu.

Like Cthulhu, the Drowned God cannot die and there's lots of talk about him rising again. And hell, the sigil of House Greyjoy and the Seastone Chair are krakens, for God's sake.

• No question that Lovecraftian imagery is operative around the Greyjoys (one of their ancestors is named Dagon!). But it's perhaps more on the level of homage than anything else. We see similar homages far away from the Iron Islands — the "Cult of Starry Wisdom" in Braavos and the Doom that came to Valyria, for instance.

ASOIAF takes place on a planet in the Thousand Worlds universe

Specifically, the one from "Bitterblooms", thousands of years after that story takes place. Also, the Doom of Valyria was caused when a massive Hrangan warship crashed onto the Valyrian capital (presumably the Hrangans eventually rebuilt their empire and did make war on the manrealm again). The surviving kill-castes are the reason people refer to the region as "demon-haunted".

Eddard Stark is Boromir reincarnated

After Boromir died, he was reborn in a parallel fantasy world as Ned. The reason he is so honorable and never desires power or glory is because some part of his subconscious remembers what happens when he as Boromir was tempted by the power of the Ring.

• What's their connection to Ulrich from Black Death?
• So, he died in LOTR because he wasn't honorable enough, and then died in A So Ia F because he was too honorable? Poor guy just can't win.
  • Such is the Curse of Sean Bean.

Severus Snape is the reincarnation of Ser Alliser Thorne.

They both have black hair and eyes and love terrorizing their pupils—particularly overweight cowardly ones (Neville in Snape's case, Samwell in Thorne's.)

• So when he gets back from his ranging he'll be on Jon's side?

King Stannis Barethon is a Skybreaker Radiant

• He's definitely broken enough for a spren to have been able to bond to him, and has been for a while. He acts as a guardian of humanity against a supernatural apocalypse, the precise function of the Knights Radiant. He has consistently followed the Skybreaker oath to "put the law before all else". Indeed, like their patron Herald, he follows that creed at times to the point of virtual insanity. We've seen repeatedly that someone can use the more basic Radiant powers (strength, speed, toughness, healing) without realizing it, so he could easily be making minor use of his powers without him or anyone else noticing. In addition, since magic is still very rare in Westeros, there won't be a lot of free Investiture around for him to tap into, which would further limit his use of Surgebindings and make it harder for people to notice his powers. This also explains why he favors Melisandre so much, she seems to leak magic, which means that when she's around, there's a ready supply of power for him to use. Finally, the real Lightbringer, the magic sword of heroes which shines with power and is potent to harm supernatural evils, sounds an awful lot like a Living Shardblade.

Vargo Hoat was created thusly

• George was searching for historical mercenary groups and came upon the janisseries. He took the most famous, Gjergj Kastriot and Vlad Tepes and mashed them. Kastrot by the way wore a goat head helmet and his traditional garb was incorporated with a link of coins. He rode under false pretenses in a castle and took control of it. The castle was atop the peak of a mountain above the "vale" next to a stream said to be the tears of a maiden, but that's another thing.

The entire series plus the Dunk and Egg tales are inspired by Northrop Frye's Theory of Archetypes

For anyone who's not familiar with the theory, Frye believed that Western literature falls into four main genres: comedy, romance, tragedy, and satire; and each of these correspond with one of the seasons: spring, summer, autumn, and winter.

Spring is comedy, defined as a story where the menace is relatively minor and the younger generation/lower class triumph fairly easily and the bad guys get their comeuppance. The first two Dunk and Egg tales, which are the most upbeat of their stories, take place in late spring. The tourney where Rhaegar and Lyanna meet and everything starts going to crap took place during the "false spring," where it seemed like things were going to be happily ever after but in fact winter was about to arrive again (making it actually an autumn, i.e. a tragedy).

Summer is romance, not the love-story kind but the battle between good and evil kind, where good wins but only through great sacrifice. The third Dunk and Egg story takes place in the summer and features the Blackfyre rebellion and a (metaphorical) dragon slaying.

Autumn is tragedy, where the hero's own flaws lead to their downfall. The first five books are all set during autumn, and hoo boy are they ever tragedies.

Winter is satire, but again slightly different than our definition, it isn't funny but rather social critique, like dystopian stories where you can mock the social order but have no real chance of defeating it. Which doesn't bode well for book 6.

Lord of the Rings Crossovers

The people of Valyria dug deep into their volcanoes to find dragons and unleashed Balrogs.

The entire series is a Realpolitik version of The Lord of the Rings

Treesicle's video was the initial inspiration, and IgnusDei had a brainwave; if Dany is Sauron, she has direct analogues for all of his forces;

• Orks = Dothraki
  Corsairs of Umbar = Iron Islanders
  Haradrim = Dornishmen
  Uruk-Hai = The Unsullied
  The Fell Beasts = The Dragons
  The Nazgul = Jorah Mormont, Grey Worm, Daario Naharis
  Saruman = Varys
  The Mouth of Sauron = The Hand of the Queen AKA Tyrion Lannister
  The One Ring = The Iron Throne

The Series is Ragnarok (detailed enough for its own folder

The Series is Ragnarok.

(Incredibly long WMG coming; sorry, I like to be thorough.) The series is based (either intentionally or not) on the Norse apocalypse myth of Ragnarok according to Snorri Sturluson in the Prose Edda. Quotes are from The World of Myth by David Adams Leeming (85-88). ADWD SPOILERS NOT MARKED.

• "First will come the winter . . . there will be three such winters on end with no summer between. Before that, however, three other winters will pass accompanied by great wars throughout the world. Brothers will kill each other for the sake of gain, and no one will spare father or son in manslaughter or in incest."
  • This is pretty obvious. A crapsack world characterized by long unnatural winters, including murder and incest. Check, check, check, and check.
• "The wolf will swallow the sun . . . another wolf will seize the moon."
  • Sunspear is always a strong sun symbol and as of yet we haven't seen the Stark children (wolves of course) "eat" them, but it's generally hoped that Martin won't be completely horrible and kill off all the Stark children, so this still has potential. As for the moon, I currently have no idea.
  • Daenerys is the moon. Drogo called her "moon of my life".
  • Or it could be one of the Arryns or other denizens of the Vale — the Arryn sigil is the moon-and-falcon.
    • Sansa is in a pretty good position to gain control of the Vale
• "The whole surface of the earth and the mountains will tremble so [violently] that trees will be uprooted from the ground, mountains will crash down, and all fetters and bonds will be snapped and severed."
  • Dany's dragons are doing plenty of earthshaking across the narrow sea. Further, a mountain did crash—Sir Gregor the Mountain. The fetters and bonds were destroyed by Dany when she released all the slaves.
• "The wolf Fenrir will get loose then . . . and his eyes and nostrils will blaze with fire."
  • Not entirely sure about this one. Barring a Harry Potter crossover, Fenrir could refer to any powerful member of the Stark family, possibly even one we've already met that will be reborn (such as Jon, assuming he survives. The fire in Fenrir's face supports this because Ghost has red eyes.) Or, Fenrir could symbolize the house as a whole.
• "The sea will lash against the land because the Midgard Serpent is writhing in giant fury trying to come ashore."
  • The sea could refer to the Ironborn, since they represent it throughout the series (see Jojen's green dream about Winterfell flooding.) They have already attacked Westeros. The Midgard Serpent could represent either Dany's dragons (loosely reptilian in appearance and connected to the Ironborn by the fifth book) or, more likely, the Red Viper Oberyn Martell or his bastard daughters, all associated with snakes.
• "The Midgard Serpent will blow so much poison that the whole sky and sea will be spattered with it; he is most terrible and will be on the other side of the wolf."
  • The dragons still fit here, what with their destruction, but Oberyn Martell was also closely associated with poison. Neither of these parties have directly opposed or allied with house Stark at this point.
• "The sky will be rent asunder and the sons of Muspell ride forth from it. Surt will ride first and with him fire blazing both before and behind. He has a very good sword and it shines more brightly than the sun."
  • Muspell is the land of fire. The land to the north of it, Niflheim, is the land of ice. Surt is a giant that battles the god Frey. (More on this later.) His sword, brighter than the sun, could of course be Lightbringer. Brienne of Tarth (from the South, a land of fire), has a grudge against House Frey and was the last person to have the sword that might possibly be Lightbringer; the reddish one forged by Tywin Lannister and given to her by Jaime. Alternatively, a Targaryen could also be said to be from the land of fire. Aegon might at some point receive Lightbringer, although his being a giant is still up for discussion.
• "When [the sons of Muspell] ride over Bifrost . . . that bridge will break. The sons of Muspell will push forward to the plain called Vigrid and the wolf Fenrir and the Midgard Serpent will go there too."
  • The most significant bridges in the series are located at the Twins and the seat of House Frey. Since Surt is believed to fight the god Frey, it isn't that much of a stretch to imagine him (whoever he turns out to be) breaking House Frey and its seat in its entirety. Vigrid is a field for battle between the gods and the sons of Muspell—I don't know the exact location, but I'd guess it's on Westeros, since that's where everybody seems to be heading.
• "Loki and Hrym with all the frost giants will also be there by then."
  • Loki is a trickster god in Norse mythology. Sometimes he is considered the father of Fenrir. At the Ragnarok he will battle another god, Heimdall, on the sons of Muspell's side. His identity is possibly either Varys or Petyr Baelish, who is currently the adoptive father of a wolf, Sansa Stark. More below. The frost giants could easily refer to the giants beyond the wall (or perhaps those now on the southern side) which will evidently become involved in the battle somehow.
• "Heimdall will stand up and blow a great blast on the horn Gjoll and awaken all the gods and they will hold an assembly . . . the ash Yggdrasil will tremble and nothing in heaven or earth will be free from fear."
  • Heimdall is described as the owner of the horn Gjoll/Gjallarhorn. He is very perceptive and is the "whitest of the gods." He is the originator of social classes among mankind and is fated to kill and be killed by Loki in battle during Ragnarok. Heimdall could easily be Roose or Ramsay Bolton, continuously described as "pale." Roose in particular is rather concerned with social classes. As for the horn, its ASOIAF equivalent could be either the Horn of Winter (as yet unknown) or the dragon horn in the Ironborn's possession. How the Boltons get it is anyone's guess, or perhaps neither Bolton is Heimdall. Yggdrasil is the "world tree," very similar to a Weirwood. And of course everyone is traumatized already at this point.
  • Heimdall is also supposed to be a guard, so he could be Barristan Selmy, or maybe The Night's Watch.
  • More likely this could fit Bloodraven the Green Seer given that he is described as being extremely pale and has a close connection to a tree (that is actually growing through his body). Also given that he is North of the wall Ina protected location it could be that the Horn of Winter is hidden with him, though why he would have it blown is anyone's guess...
• "Odin will ride first in a helmet of gold and a beautiful coat of mail and with his spear Gungnir, and he will make for the wolf Fenrir. Thor will advance at his side but will be unable to help him, because he will have his hands full fighting the Midgard Serpent."
  • Possibly Odin is Jaime Lannister, whose armor was gold and who fought against Robb Stark's (wolf) army (going with the theory that Fenrir is the whole Stark family rather than one character.) Thor I'm less sure about; anyone who opposes Dany OR House Martell (Oberyn in particular) OR allies with Lannister could qualify. Best guess is the forces of the Iron Throne, which were in King's Landing with Oberyn.
  • Perhaps Odin is Bloodraven — a wise mentor figure with one eye who is heavily associated with ravens. That would most likely imply that Fenrir is Bran and that their relationship would turn sour.
  • Maybe Gendry is Thor. Thor was know for his hammer and Genry uses a hammer as a smith.
• "Frey will fight against Surt and it will be a hard conflict before Frey falls."
  • Again, Surt, whoever he/she is, will kill the Freys. The fact that the name "Frey" comes direct from this translation is making me squee.
    • Well, Surt is a fire demon and Thoros of Myr has a flaming sword. My guess is that The Brotherhood Without Banners as a whole is Surt. The only proble with that is that 'Thoros' is similar to 'Thor'.
• "Then the hound Garm, which was bound in front of Gnipahellir, will also get free; he is the worst sort of monster. He will battle with Tyr and each will kill the other."
  • The hound. In the mythology, Gnipahellir is the cliff-cave that leads to hell. This could be symbolic of Sandor Clegane's near-death experience rather than a literal cave. Most theories claim Clegane has reformed, but that doesn't mean the outside world will perceive him any differently—to the rest of the country he's still a monster. "Tyr" is interesting, as it's common in male Lannister names. Further, the Norse god Tyr was depicted as a one-handed man, and he's also the son of Odin. Jaime Lannister now has one hand, and has undergone a strong character change since his battle with Robb Stark; it's possible he represents both Odin and, reborn, Tyr.
• "Thor will slay the Midgard Serpent but stagger back only nine paces before he falls down dead, on account of the poison blown on him by the serpent."
  • Here's where my Midgard Serpent = Oberyn Martell theory comes into play. This seems to me to be describing the exactly battle between Gregor Clegane the Mountain and Oberyn Martell. If we consider Thor to be the forces of the Iron Throne, Gregor Clegane fits as he's rashly named to the Kingsguard before his death. When he fights Oberyn, he kills him, but he also dies from being touched by the poisoned spear Oberyn used.
• "The wolf will swallow Odin and that will be his death . . . Vidar will take the wolf's upper jaw in one hand and tear his throat asunder and that will be the wolf's death."
  • Odin = Jaime Lannister according to above theories. Symbolically, the wolf did kill his first self when Vargo Hoat and the Brotherhood Without Banners seized him in the name of Stark. Then, of course, he was reborn as one-handed Tyr. Vidar is the god of vengeance and kills Fenrir to avenge Odin. He could be anyone who sympathizes with Jaime or Lannisters in general. (Candidates include Tywin and the Boltons.) Further, every single member of the Stark family has either died (physically or symbolically) or faked his/her death. Ned, Catelyn, and Robb are all dead or undead. Sansa is now posing as Petyr's bastard child; symbolically, Sansa is dead. Arya is becoming a Faceless man, also symbolically dying. Bran and Rickon both had their deaths faked. And Jon's fate is unknown but he definitely has a brush with death.
• "Loki will battle with Heimdall and each will kill the other. Thereupon Surt will fling fire over the earth and burn up the whole world."
  • Loki, again, is a trickster god. I believe he is either Varys (a mummer, easily a trickster) or Petyr Baelish, also tricky, and I've concluded that Heimdall is most likely a Bolton (probably Roose.) It is possible that when the northern and southern halves of Westeros meet again in the next book, the Boltons will clash with either Varys or Petyr. Surt, probably not Brienne but possibly a Targaryen, either Aegon or Dany, will unleash the dragons on Westeros and destroy it spectacularly.
• There's a bunch of stuff about the afterlife and what will happen when everyone is dead. Then: "While the wood is being burned by Surt, in a place called Hoddmimir's Wood, will be concealed two human beings called Lif and Lifthrasir. Their food will be the morning dews, and from these men will come so great a stock that the whole world will be peopled."
  • Hoddmimir's Wood is like a new garden of Eden. It could possibly be in the northern woods beyond the wall, especially if the dragons literally burn Westeros alive; the frozen woods would probably be the safest place. Lif and Lifthrasir are Adam and Eve, essentially, and repopulate the earth. A potential candidate for the male half is Rickon (once he's grown) as he has been concealed somewhere, although probably not beyond the wall. Bran is another potential, although being paralyzed he doesn't have a great chance at repopulating the world.
• "And you will think this strange, but the sun will have borne a daughter no less lovely than herself, and she will follow the paths of her mother . . ."
  • Apparently the sun is female. Either way she could refer still to the Martells, especially since there are lots of powerful females in that family. Their chances don't seem great with Quentyn dead, but I'd never underestimate a daughter of the Red Viper, or princess Arianne, for that matter.
• "'And now, if you have anything more to ask, I can't think how you can manage it, for I've never heard anyone tell more of the story of the world. Make what use of it you can.'"
  • As a parting shot, isn't this just so ridiculously George RR Martin?
    • Just a little addendum. The god who unwittingly started the road to Ragnarok has a name that could be translated as Hodor. Kind of makes you think about the role Bran and Hodor will play in things.
    • And Hodor's real name is Walder, which is similar to Balder, the god who killed Hoder in mythology. Will Hodor kill himself to escape Bran's mind-rape?
• I think Littlefinger fits as Loki.
  • Yeah, after more consideration and research I came to this conclusion, too, since Loki is a trickster god archetype and also potentially the father of a wolf (and Sansa is currently posing as Littlefinger's daughter.)

Meta Predictions

George Martin will die before the series is concluded or purposely write a crappy ending to the series.

One way or another, just to spite his fans.

• The last two books in the series are already written and finished. Over the next decade, Martin will continue to pretend to be writing the next book, but will give dozens of reasons why it hasn't been finished yet. Winds of Winter will be released in 2024, and every POV chapter in it will end on a massive cliffhanger that leads directly into the last book. When he finally dies, by order of his will, the existence of the (already written) final book of the series will be revealed to the world, while simultaneously being burned on a pyre that destroys the only copy. The anguish and hate created by this act will be such a potent emotive force that it will cause him to rise from his grave and become the Dark Overlord of the World, which was his plan all along.

the first six books in the series are a set up for...

A tale of an Ordinary High-School Student coming to Westeros, saving the kingdom, becoming the king, and learning a lot about himself and growing up on the way.

• He will also marry Sansa... and Daenerys. (Seriously, wtf?)
  • He becomes the king of a new order, where everyone will be able to reule, regardless of money or birth, and marriage will be based on love. His queen will be a common girl who happens to resemble his high school crush from back in the real-world world.
    • He will also make all the houses work together as good friends, mount the dragons by offering them strawberry candies (which will of course be described through Food Porn) and defeat the Others using The Power of Love. His dynasty will rule from the Red Keep, now renamed Pink Keep and there will be no more Iron Throne, but the Comfy Pillow instead. "Cuteness is coming..."

• ...and then the author woke up from his happy dream and realized he is back in a cell deep down in the Dreadfort. "Hello Reek, sweet dreams?" said Ramsay Bolton. "You passed out from our little "session" from the other day. Let us continue from there, shall we?"
  • "will we have the chocolate cake today, or the yellow kind?"

Theon prayed to the Drowned God, the Seven and the Old gods for salvation that would never come...

Everything after Bran was pushed from the tower is a tale...

...being told to him by Old Nan of his ancient ancestors, as are the details of life at Winterfell. The final chapter will expand on Winterfell as a medium-sized modern city in a Westeros with early-21st century technology ^note  assuming it's not the mid-21st c. by the time GRRM finishes and will end with Bran going back to school in his new wheelchair, Jaime Lannister going to jail for assault with grievous bodily harm after a media-circus trial since someone in a nearby building got it on video, and readers left deliberately unsure of what "happened" and what is a myth or legend in-universe. Time moves in circles in Westeros...

All the House sigil-and-words logos (as seen on the character pages) exist In-Universe.

Not during the main stories but in Westeros' future, having been developed by Bran the Graphic Designer on behalf of a trade association meant to promote tourism to the Great Houses. That's why they all look like they were designed by the same ad agency.

Music Crossovers

George R. R. Martin created all the Great Houses to represent subgenres of Heavy Metal.

• The Arryns are Stoner Metal because their motto is "As High as Honor."
• The Baratheons are Thrash and Death Metal because they're loud and noisy.
• The Greyjoys are Viking Metal, because they're heads of the Vikings' Fantasy Counterpart Culture, the Ironborn.
• The Lannisters are Hair Metal, because they're flashy and rich.
• The Martells I'm not sure about. Any ideas?
• The Starks are Black Metal because they're grim and frostbitten and don't like churches.
• The Targaryens are Power Metal because they have dragons.
• The Tullys are Folk Metal, because of their commitment to tradition.
• The Tyrells are Symphonic Metal because of their commitment to courtly love and pretty appearances.
  • This theory is awesome, and I'd put the Martells as Progressive Metal.

The Rains of Castamere is the theme tune of the tv show

99% for rule of cool. Because imagine that song playing in the background of the red wedding scene when they film it, then cutting to the credits with the song still playing. Maybe even ending the series on it.

• Awesome as it would be, I doubt it. tRoC is described as fairly slow and haunting, and the theme tune is very epic and sweeping. However, they might use the same melody and keep it as a motif for the song, which would be equally awesome.
• The Rains of Castamere is heard in the penultimate episode of season two, and it's different from the main tune. It did, however, be used in the credits for that episode.

Aegon Targaryen is alive and well, but he's not the boy with Jon Connington.

The Prince Who Was Promised, Azor Azai reborn, the Stallion Who Mounts The World, and the rightful King of Westeros. As a baby, during the Rebellion, he (and a blade of Valyrian steel) was swapped for a decoy and somehow transported to an alternate universe and left with a carefully staged wagon to be found and raised by dwarves. He is... Carrot Ironfoundersson.

• Even if he finds out, he won't accept the crown because his home and duty lie in Ankh-Morpork and the Watch.
• Instead, Vetinari will come to Westeros and sort everything out.
  • Since Tywin Lannister and Vetinari have both been played by Charles Dance, I'm guessing that them shaking hands would lead to the universe exploding.

There is a world in which Violet Crawley and Olenna Redwyn-Tyrell have met.

Probably over Tea and sniping about the various grandkids and other various people whose lives they are meddling in currently. And, it would be a minor miracle if a small implosion didn't occur about about the time they started talking about assassination methods and which go best with lace.

Tyrion is Miles Vorkosigan, raised in a medieval world by an evil and bigoted father instead of the kind Aral

Both witty, extremely intelligent and charismatic dwarves. Compare Tyrion's rise to leadership over the mountain tribes to Miles's acquisition of the Dendarii Mercenaries. Both raised as feudal lords, and both should be the heir to their houses, but Tyrion's evil father disinheits him. Both of their fathers were essentially the top advisor to the throne.Both of their circumstances of birth endangered their mothers' lives—except Cordelia had the uterine replicator while Tyrion's mother couldn't be saved.Also, both get taken out of their military command role and go into politics and administration (Tyrion as the Hand of the Kind, Miles as a Lord Auditor)Both have a tendency to run their mouths while in mortal peril.And what fan of the Vorkosigan Saga hasn't watched the TV series and wanted to see Peter Dinklage play Miles in a Vorkosigan-verse series?

Westeros is just a Dyson Sphere.

Just a wacky theory, but that's what we're here for. Looking at the show's intro: the lay of the land seems slightly curved inward, not outwards. GRRM said that he shared the major points with D&D provided he dies before finishing the show, wouldn't it be the greatest twist of all to find out you're reading a sci-fi series instead of fantasy? The sphere explains the seasons being out of whack: the control systems are damaged. Something went horribly wrong long ago. The Lost Technology that powers the hot springs at Winterfell, the "lightbulb" in the citadel. What if Old Valyria was the seat of the per-disaster government? Its destruction by more modern means would be a complete mystery to the superstitious survivors of the cataclysm. The dragons are genetic experiments, and Valyrian Steel is some kind of modern super metal, thus explaining why the art of its making was lost.

The series is a metaphor for high school.

The Great Houses of Westeros are basically recognizable teen cliques:

• Lannisters: the Rich Kids
• Baratheons: the Jocks
• Starks: the Fantasy Nerds
• Greyjoys: the Goths
• Tullys: the Prudes
• Arryns: the Religious Weirdos
  • On that note, School Of Thrones had Robb and Sansa Stark as hipsters, Greyjoys as water polo jocks with Theon as The Bro, Stannis and Melisandre as Religious Weirdos competing with Renly and Loras for prom king & queen (complete with massive Stannis/Renly Faux Yay), and Dany as a weird new girl with a penchant for dragons who decides to "conquer the high school with flames".
    Robb: "We are the Starks. Our way is the vintage way. And prom night is coming."

The series is basically The Breakfast Club with swords and dragons.

• Your Grace, does David Bowie know you raid his wardrobe?
• On a similar note, GRR will include a typical High School Clique at the Citadel as a Shout-Out to School of Thrones.

George R. R. Martian does NOT hate his characters and his fans. He's an obsessive fan of The Art of War

Martin is like an examiner testing the characters he creates with lessons from the Chinese classic on warfare and strategy. The moment any character fails, (s)he is killed off.

Arrested Westeros will become canon.

Or something like it. Sansa will leave Joffrey for George Michael, her younger brothers'll move in with them and start attending Balboa High School while Joffrey and Maeby pair off and he finds himself utterly under her thumb...

There will be a Sequel Series in which Westeros breaks its Medieval Stasis and moves through various other historical periods

Picture the 19th century Westeros, with the Kingsguard acting as US marshals, with Braavos as a New York stand-in infested with Dothraki crime families, and Targaryen descendants as absurdly wealthy tycoons living on an Andorra-esque Dragonstone (and then pass me my meds).

• Better give George R.R. Martin a big stash of high quality medicine and a personal crew of paramedics, to ensure his survival through the next forty years or so and give him time to write this. Or, better, put him in a Mr. House machine.
• I'd prefer stories about Westeros history. I imagine ASOIAF will end with a feeling of completion.*

Each Main Character is a WWE Wrestler.

• Ned Stark - Bret Hart (with Brandon as Owen, Benjen as Bulldog, Jon Arryn as Neidhart, Rickon as Stu)
• Jaime Lannister - Shawn Michaels
• Robert Baratheon - Triple H
• Cersei Lannister - Stephanie McMahon
• Tywin Lannister - Vince McMahon
• Tyrion Lannister - Shane McMahon / Hornswoggle (who let's not forget is Vince's son)
  • As a point, Hornswoggle being Vince's son was revealed to be a ruse by Finlay, Hornswoggle's actual father. Tyrion as Hornswoggle goes with the theory that he's not Tywin's actual son.
• Catelyn Stark - Sunny
• Jon Snow - CM Punk
• Danyerys Targaryen - Trish Stratus
• Viserys Targaryen - Chris Jericho
• Robb Stark - John Cena
• Roose Bolton - Randy Orton
• Walder Frey - Ric Flair
• Hulk Hogan - Aerys Targaryen
• Sandor Clegane - Steve Austin
• Brienne - Chyna
• Theon Greyjoy - Edge
• The Great Other - The Undertaker
  • Does that make R'hllor Kane?
• Lysa Arryn - Vickie Guererro

This is list will undoubtedly get bigger...

The show and book series are Mutually Fictional.

Goes along with the theory that there will be a Distant Finale featuring modern technology. Both stories are historical fiction in the context of the other one.

The true nature of The Drowned God

One of the few things we know about The Drowned God is that he has these awesome underwater parties involving mermaids, sounds familiar?

The TARDIS runs on weirwood sap.

Westeros is the far distant past of Gallifrey. Eventually they will harness the power of the weirwoods to perceive past, present and future simultaneously and become Time Lords.

The Road is a distant future sequel to A Song of Ice and Fire.

After several hundred or thousand years of summer, winter came to Westeros. Since the majority of society assumed that the world had entered the Eternal Summer, only a handful of survivalists had prepared for the climate's dramatic turn for the worst, and even their meager preparations weren't enough. To the North, the Wall had been unguarded for centuries except for a ceremonial honor guard who were intended to remind the world of the horrors that it had lived with in the distant past. As a result, the Wall was destroyed, commencing the long night that never ends.

The series will be a reconstruction of the high fantasy genre.

Dragons and other supernatural entities have already been introduced into what is otherwise a more realistic take on medieval fantasy fiction. As magic (greenseers, wargs, shadow magic, etc) and more magical races (the children of the forest, for example) become more widespread and widely-known, the world will start to more closely resemble a typical high fantasy setting. The tone of the series may even shift enough for it to end on an optimistic note.

• Ironically, the seeds for this may have been planted from the start. The very first chapter introduces the White Walkers, who are unambiguously evil, who eventually will march on Westeros, killing everyone regardless of faction. Against such a threat, there's basically two options: either enough groups will form an alliance, however temporary, and work together to drive them off; or they don't, and the whole War of the Five Kings will prove to be a "Shaggy Dog" Story. The first kind of magic seen will, if encountered, cause a Black-and-White Morality paradigm against them in an otherwise Grey-and-Grey Morality world.

Theon's storyline is based on the later life of Richard III.

Theon is almost like a brother to Robb Stark, who, in this case, would represent Richard's older brother, Edward IV. Edward, like Robb with Theon, was very different to his brother, but their relationship seems to have been alright, although there has been speculation as to whether Edward and Richard had the same father (Edward was much taller than both his father and brother). As for Richard himself, there's the Robb/Edward parallel, but there's also Bran and Rickon. In this context, Bran and Rickon would represent Edward's sons, Edward V and Richard of Shrewsbury, better known as the Princes in the Tower. Popular history would have you believe that they were killed by their Uncle Richard, but the truth is that there's actually no real evidence that this was the case. It could have been something else, or they could have simply run away or been smuggled out of the Tower by someone else. Either way, history doesn't record what happened to them afterwards, and nobody's found their remains yet. This ties in with everybody thinking Theon murdered Bran and Rickon, when in fact they simply ran away. Combined with Robb's death and Theon's descent into unpopularity, this WMG can be summed up thusly:

• Theon Greyjoy = Richard III
• Robb Stark = Edward IV
• Bran Stark = Edward V
• Rickon Stark = Richard of Shrewsbury

At the end of the series, Khaleesi will marry Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean.

This is mentioned in the Parks and Recreation episode "Leslie and Ron," which takes place 2017.

Tabletop Games Crossovers

The three eyed crow is Tzeentch

Tzeentch is often reffered to in the Warhammer world as the raven god and his main way of gaining followers is sending people prophetic dreams.

The series takes place on a Feudal World in the Warhammer 40,000 universe

• The legend of the long night refers to the time when Chaos ruled the planet before it was brought into Imperial Compliance by the Emperor of Mankind, who became known as Azor Ahai to the locals.
• Shortly after the Horus Heresy, when Lemen Russ left the Space Wolves, he spent some time in Westeros living under the pseudonym, 'Brandon Stark', and subsequently built The Wall, Winterfell, etc. and founded House Stark.
  • The Dire Wolves are descended from Fenrisian Wolves that accompanied him on his journey.
• The Unsullied formed the planet's tithe to the Imperial Guard.
• A C'Tan shard may be the Great Other.

The world of Westeros overlaps with Planescape

• It's actually the 629th layer of the Abyss, which explains the a lot about the setting.

Several Harry Potter and Downton Abbey characters ended up in Westeros after the series ended

• Mrs. Granger, while living in Australia after having her memory modified, began to regain memories of her former life. She went mad after realising that she once had a daughter who had made her and her husband forget her. After unsuccessfully trying to convince her husband of the truth, she goes mad and ends up creating world where she gets revenge on all those who wronged her.
• Argus Filch dies and goes to his version of heaven where he gets to torment others just as much as they tormented him.
• Sir Richard Carlisle dies shortly after Mary leaves him for Matthew and ends up falling for yet another beautiful woman whom he again betrays and is sent away from.

The series is a sequel to Lord of Light

• Related to the theory that Westeros is a Lost Colony above, Westeros takes place on the same colony world as the novel Lord of Light. Melisandre's Lord is quite literally Great-Souled Sam. The Seven, the Drowned God, and the various other gods were merely influential colonists from the starship Star of India, recreating medieval feudalism and enforcing Medieval Stasis to keep the descendants of the other colonists ignorant and unable to threaten their power structure. The magic some people possess was created by lost-lost advanced technology, now passed down through bloodlines.
• Note that Martin is against unauthorized fan continuations. However, he has stated he is alright with them if the original creator gives their blessing (and he has actually written this type of fan fiction before, in fanzines). Roger Zelazny, author of Lord Of Light, was a personal friend of Martin's and is in fact mentioned in the acknowledgements for A Game of Thrones.

Westeros is actually Charn in the past

• There are mentions of dragons used as a way of transport, probably Targaryen dragons.
• Jadis and the Royal Family of Charn are said to have giant's blood.
• The Others won, and explaining why Jadis was able to conjure a hundred years winter: she's a host of the Great Other.
• The Royal Family of Charn is said to have a long story of civil wars, treason, fratricide and general bloodshed that dated back to its very origins.
• There are mentions of faraway kingdoms that traded with Charn with exotic freight goods (the Eastern Lands)
• The pitch black sky, the big red and cold sun and the little white star are all a consequence of the coming of the second Long Night.

The hooded man is part of Theon

• Theon will tell how he escaped by summoning a shadow baby that opened the gates of Winterfell like he used to open the bodices of poor serving wenches with a cry of arrivedeci, the shadow is called Missing Sticky Fingers. Meanwhile at the wall Mel will don a top hat made of patchface's erm face and teach Jon how to use the power of the ultimate fire, the sun, to face the Others by sending ripples throw his kingsblood. At the same time Jon and Jojen start to show a star birthmark on the shoulder.

It will turn out to be all just a dream...

• ...by a kindergarten teacher in modern-day America named Edward Snow. In his classroom, he has this really comfortable armchair that all his students love. That day, a whole bunch of kids want to sit there at the same time. Edward explains that they have to take turns, but the kids refuse, and the whole thing devolves into a mess of hitting, shoving, yelling, crying, and screaming. That night, exhausted from the armchair mess, Edward dreams about it—except now all the kids who wanted to sit in the armchair are grown lords and ladies claiming to be the heirs to an Iron Throne in a fantasy land called Westeros. The last chapter will be Edward's POV, and he will wake up to his alarm, mutter "What a weird dream," get out of bed, and proceed with his morning. The last sentence will be something like, "He got in his car and readied himself for another day of armchair-wanting madness."

Westeros actually exists, and George RR Martin is Varys

He will reveal himself to the few main surviving characters at the end, and that he orchestrated their entire world to be as interesting as possible for an unseen audience not knowing that what they're reading about is actually happening. Obviously, these characters are freaked out by this revelation as they're forced to board Varys's helicopter that takes them back to Earth. Perhaps there's another Westeros for the TV show, where everything is recorded and broadcast, like The Hunger Games.

GRRM lied about Jon Snow's parentage to the producers of Game of Thrones, or just gave the broad details.

George knew the show would wrap up before he's finished, and reveal one of the biggest secrets-the parentage of Jon Snow. Unless he hasn't even decided it for himself, he's at risk of Jon Snow's parentage being a Captain Obvious Reveal. And if he changes it to be a case of Not His Sled, it'll come off as an Ass Pull instead. He found two alternatives. The first is that the it won't be focused on the reveal that Jon is Lyanna and Rhaegar's son, but instead the outcome. To keep readers on their toes and because of how the two continuities have diverged, it'll go in a completely different route with how the reveal affects everyone. Other alternative? Jon's parents will be different in the books than in the show. If the other popular theory that Ned and Ashara are Jon's parents is true, then it could mean Ashara's omission and the Daynes being much less involved in the show might be intentional to conceal that secret.

If there's a series set in the future(that's not a direct sequel), it'll be based around the 18th century.

Much like how the conquest is based around William the Conqueror, the Dance of the Dragons is based on the Anarchy and of course the current set of books is the War of the Roses, the next detailed point in history will be inspired from the various revolutions and questioning of the monarch itself. Mainly the French and American Revolution. The Americas would be represented by "Northyros", and the religious reformation will be the basis for a lot of the stories between it and A Song Of Ice And Fire.

Jon Snow or Daenerys, maybe both, will link the First Flame.

Time is certainly convoluted in Westeros - as it was in Lordran -, but many have forgotten this fact, especially with the rise and fall of hundreds of kingdoms before it. The undead curse is much less widespread at this point, but still present in non hollow undead like Melisandre, Brinden, Quaith (and Qyburn I think), etc; hollow ones: wights, maybe stone men; as well as other characters who are on different stages of hollowing: white walkers, Beric Dondarion (and then Lady Stoneheart), Ser Robert Strong. So here's some food for thought...

On hollowing/the undead curse:

• Ser Beric Dondarion is clearly suffering from very progressive hollowing;
• Some undead humans figured out a way to brand people they deem worthy of immortality with the Dark Sign, or whom may need it at a certain point for important roles, like what Thoros did with Beric (and Mel to Jon in the series);
• That's exactly what Qyburn did to Gregor Clegane, thus why I think he's undead;
• And that's why resurrection is so connected to fire in most instances where it happens. The "magic" Thoros and Mel use is actually them tapping into the last gasps of the Light Soul. He and Mel might be the last people who know about or is somehow connected to Gwyn. I'd go further down the rabbit hole and say Melisandre isn't undead or human at all, but Gwynevere herself or at least a descendant thereof;
• * The Lands of Always Winter is where the Ringed City is, where all the undead, affected and adapted by the extreme cold, are coming from.

On the First Flame and Linking the Fire:

• The Long Night is simply a sign that the First Flame is going out;
• And so, Azor Ahai was the last person who linked the Flame, the last Lord of Cinder;
• The Doom of Valyria is the result of him linking the fire. That's where the Kiln is located;
• Daenerys' dragons awoke because the Lord Souls are failing again, and you know Everlasting sons of guns love that;

And so the cycle repeats itself, and once again humanity will have a serious choice to make: link the fire one more time, thus postponing the Age of Dark, or giving in to the Night King, who acts out in the name of the Furtive Pygmy. Only difference is, now the Dark Soul has assumed the form of cold for some reason. This might seem like a flaw in the theory, but maybe not. Maybe this is what happens when the Dark Soul also loses its strength, its true essence. Just like the Light Soul becomes dim and weak, the Dark Soul grows colder and colder until the Abyss is not a sea of shadows anymore, but of ice. Or maybe this was its true nature all along, and now Humanity is more powerful than ever.

The Targaryens are sparks.

It would explain a lot.

Euron is Nylarthotep.

Going along with the drowned-god-is-Cthulhu theory, Euron himself seems to have a lot in common with Nylarthotep. Just like Nylarthotep, he mocks the feeble gods of the Earth, does wondrous displays to win over followers, and is charismatic enough to mask his evil. Nylarthotep is the 'crawling chaos,' and Euron definitely seems to love chaos. Not to mention that they're both utter jerkwads, (that's putting it lightly in both cases) and there's just a lot of Lovecraftian imagery around the Greyjoys in general. It would also explain how he got all those magical artifacts, his obsession with magic in general, AND his mocking of the Drowned God. Why would Nylarthotep, and Outer God, respect Cthulhu, a Great Old one?