Why did Aaron even want to tutor Regina? I mean, he has to know himself that he sucks at math and even of he had a crush on her, why would you blame yourself in front of your crush? I simply don't get it.
Does it annoy anyone else the way the movie assumes Aaron is a nice, pure, wholesome guy, untouched by the nest of vipers that surrounds him? He dates Regina twice when she's at her most tyrannical; all she has to do to get him back is tell him she didn't break up with him the first time; he only breaks up with her when he finds out she's been cheating on him. He apparently has no problem with the kind of person she is; he tells Cady that Regina's just "more up-front" about being an asshole than most people. She asks him why he's friends with Regina and he snaps back, "Why are you?" — like that's a good answer instead of casting them both in the same light. And then when Cady turns into Regina he acts like she's betraying his doe-eyed faith in her. Oh, but "all he cares about is school and his mom and his friends" — that's why he sucks at math but thinks he's good enough to tutor someone else, he omg does his own laundry, and we never even meet any of his friends outside Regina's circle. For a movie that's supposed to be about how girls are a super special girly kind of mean to each other, they could have done better than including a male character who's basically a hypocritical honorary Plastic and mysteriously never gets called out on it.
This troper never saw Aaron as anything close to plastic.
Yes, he dates Regina, and he's an idiot for taking her back a second time over such a flimsy excuse. But he could genuinely care for her, or it could be the fact she's smoking hot and he's a teenage male. The reason he asks Cady why she's friends with Regina is because she's just spent the last ten minutes bitching about her, and yet calls her a friend. It's pretty realistic writing for a male teenager, they don't tend to bitch like us females.
Was that supposed to be a joke, especially coming from a female (nice that you can't just say girls or women, too)? Guys bitch every day like girls are supposed to be 5-7 days a month. Even Aaron did it. But yes, only teenage boys, well-known for their good sense and high moral values, are capable of that. Girls never do it (like Cady and Janis and Ms. Newbury). The ones who do it like myself simply don't exist. Except you, probably. The most realistic thing about Aaron this Troper has found is that he knowingly continues dating a sociopath because she's attractive and puts out freely.
Aaron liked Cady for who she was, not the plastic she became. What's so wrong about that?
And lastly, are you serious? Aaron's a nice guy, that's why he offers to help Cady out when she starts to fail; by this point all he knows is that her test scores are lower than his. Maybe he's not the greatest at maths, but it's clear that he doesn't know she's failing on purpose until she tells him. And if you're referring to the original screenplay, it's not just implied he does his own laundry, but he does his mother's too. Sorry, but that's pretty impressive for a teenage boy. We don't meet any of his friends because Aaron has a relatively small role in the film, and there was honestly no need to show them either.
"He liked Cady for who she was, not the plastic she became" is obviously the movie's intention, but it's completely undermined by the fact that he's apparently fine with the way the "Plastics" behave. He never objects to any of it until Cady's the one doing it. "You are just like a clone of Regina" — a line said in disgust by a character who... has dated Regina twice. And the reason it's important to show him caring about school, his mom and his friends is that we're told those are the things he cares about. Instead we get him sitting at Regina's lunch table listening to her talk about her cranberry juice diet.
Cady and Damien liken being in the plastics to "being famous" or "being on the cover of Teen Us Weekly". Add that to the fact that Regina is HOT and you have "Hotness + Fame = Profit". Yeah, it's shallow but hello, teenage boy. It's obvious that people toed the line around Regina just so high school wasn't hell on earth every day so dating her would be the best possible way to keep her being nice to you, of course, and make everyone else think you're a legend ("omg he's DATING Regina!"). He obviously liked Cady for the fact that she was generally the opposite of Regina but also isn't about to say no to Regina and risk her wrath.
Keep in mind that he says this after the second time they broke up. Getting burnt twice by Regina probably hammered in the lesson for Aaron that Regina isn't that great of a person. Now that Cady is increasingly emulating Regina, especially so soon after he broke up with Regina, it viscerally repelled him. Teenage boys aren't the deepest or smartest of creatures, but they can learn, even if it takes a while. Aaron is no exception. Whether you think he is shallow or not, at least he was not malevolent like the plastics were at the height of their power.
It's probably important to remember that he does say that Cady is a CLONE of Regina. She's not being herself anymore, she's essentially someone else. Aaron didn't really seem to have an issue with Regina being mean, but he respected the fact that she was genuinely mean and didn't try to hide it or pretend that she was someone other than herself. That's not to say that Aaron has the best girlfriend picking skills, but again, teenage boy. When he realized that Cady was just like Regina, it was jarring, partially because Regina played him, but also because he knew that Cady wasn't initially like that, and she was just acting that way because she'd allowed herself to be "corrupted," for lack of a better word. She was fake, and here's the kicker, PLASTIC.
To be fair, Aaron is a high school boy who likely doesn't take relationships very seriously. Yes, he remains faithful to whoever he's dating, but maybe he realizes that high school relationships aren't a big deal.
That being said, Aaron is a male satellite love interest for Cady, so going into detail about his motives and personality is pretty pointless. He exists for Cady to love and as more of a driving force to the plot than an actual character, and he doesn't really matter beyond that. To be frank, he dated Regina to cause Cady wangst and chews her out over becoming like Regina because it helps drive Cady into being the likable girl she was before. If you were to remove him and exchange him for a shirt that Cady and Regina both liked, the plot would pretty much be exactly the same.
What confused me is that he makes it clear from the start he knows what kind of person Regina is, yet instantly believes the over-the-top lie she tells him about Cady, and lets Regina flaunt their relationship in Cady's face even when Cady's supposedly a creepy stalker (had it been true, he'd be wise to be more subtle). My impression is that Aron may be a good guy, he's just not very bright and/or insightful. Otherwise, the above comment.
Well there's no indication he actually believed Regina's lies about Cady. He's shown talking to her as normal afterwards and shows no signs of being wary about stalking or whatnot. He wouldn't offer to tutor her if he was creeped out by her. He most likely thought that Regina was just being jealous and bitchy about another girl liking him. Since Regina immediately made a pass at him, that's probably what he thought.
I think it may have been as simple as a matter of plot contrivance. He's handsome enough to be a status symbol for social-climbing Regina and nice enough to be a reward for the secretly-decent-after-all Cady, and those are the only two traits he needs to serve his function in the film. He only needs to have enough self-awareness to be able to reject Cady for plot reasons once she's gone Plastic. He's basically a Sexy Lamp. This movie was primarily about Girl World and girl interaction. As people have pointed out, the deleted laundry scene would have given Aaron a bit more depth, but it would have distracted from the story the movie was actually trying to tell and possibly made it out of character for him to make the decisions necessary for the plot to advance.
I think the point wasn't that anyone was the most rotten apple of the bunch. The point was probably more that they're all a bunch of socially maladjusted pricks in their own special way.
^ What that person said. The moral of the movie is obviously that we've all felt victimised by others, and in our moments of weakness we've all tried to make ourselves feel better by being mean in return. This is shown in the assembly scene with Tina Fey and the Maths Tournament scene. Janis, Gretchen, Cady, Regina, pretty much every girl in the movie is mean to the others because they're insecure about their ability to make friends/self-esteem. That's what teens do.
I don't think Janis is the bitchiest person in the movie, but you make some good points. She does use Cady for revenge and doesn't express any real remorse or get comeuppance for it.
Everyone knows the bitchiest person in the movie is the "you can try Sears" lady.
When Principal Duvall was talking to the Karen, Gretchen, and Cady about the "Burn Book" because Regina told him that their names weren't in the book, why didn't he suspect Regina could've been in on it too? He clearly knows that she's friends with Gretchen and Karen, and recently Cady.
Regina had been publicly kicked out of the Plastics at lunch. That would be big news for the teachers to discuss. And Regina was the last person added into the Burn Book so that matched up with her getting kicked out.
Well Regina did put on a good show of being upset about it. Duvall probably didn't think that she would be manipulative enough to turn in a book she primarily wrote in an attempt to frame her former friends. Alternately he did question her for a while - and then called the other three into the office, possibly not wanting them in with Regina because, as was already said, she'd been publicly kicked out of their clique.
Principal Duvall is talking to Gretchen, Karen and Cady while Regina is out in the hallways throwing photocopies around. Why did no one care who it was that leaked the Burn Book, the principal literally says he "hope[s] no one else does see it"? Why did it not open up suspicion to Regina, who wasn't in the office with those three but was friends with them?
Like he said, why would she call herself a fugly slut? Besides, this movie is rife with cliques breaking up, so he could easily have thought (correctly) that Regina was no longer in with the plastics.
He probably would have suspected Regina under normal circumstances, and I'm sure he realised what she'd done after that whole scene. But remember, by the time he left his office all hell had broke loose. It didn't matter how the girls had seen the burn book, it just mattered that they had and he had to deal with the aftermath.
That was my issue too. Don't most schools have security cameras in the hallways? Why didn't Regina get busted for spreading all of the things they said?
Later schools maybe. But not really in 2004. Maybe the odd security camera outside to stop students misbehaving on the grounds, where teachers can't get to them. But since Tina Fey wrote this inspired partially by her own high school life, she definitely wouldn't consider CCTV in the hallways.
Is anyone else kinda bothered by the epilogue? Karen, Regina and Cady all sort of do their own thing but Gretchen "finds a new clique and a new queen bee to serve". So, she's just as bad as she was before? How is that a happy ending?
It's realistic. Even with a school-wide "epiphany assembly", there are people who will still not "get it".
Wait until she gets to college. She'll probably fare a little better.
She is at the very least following someone that is not a bitch.
Rather insignificant detail, but what is the point in Regina telling Cady her bracelet is cute and that that girl's skirt is adorable if she hates them, but then never tells them she secretly hates them? She's supposed to be bitchy, so wouldn't it make more sense for her to outright tell the girl "that skirt is the ugliest effing skirt I've ever seen", or actually mean it when she says it's adorable? It doesn't hurt anyone for her to lie like that, and it doesn't do anyone any good, either, so what's the point?
As pointed out above there really wasn't anything happening with the cliques until the plot kicks in. This may have been one of the hints that Regina wasn't really as outwardly bitchy as she was made out to be. Cady would recognize the dis to her bracelet but that girl would never know the difference. Why alienate the people you are trying to control.
Theoretically, OP has a point, but there's no reason for Regina to be the queen bee of the school if no one listens to her. She doesn't just tell the Plastics that the skirt is ugly; she probably spreads the word around. Then the rest of the school's female population follows suit, and eventually this girl's vintage skirt is reviled and mocked, but she'll feel confused because even though everyone else hates it, she still likes it, and if Regina George liked her skirt, doesn't that mean it's cool? Doesn't it? Cognitive dissonance and low self-esteem results. It's psychological warfare.
There's a deleted scene that takes place during the dance in the girls bathroom, between Katy and Regina where Regina basically gives her blessing (as much as Regina can muster) about Katy/Aaron. She explains that when she was a kid her parents tried to give her old dollhouse to charity, Regina responded by throwing the dollhouse down the stairs thus destroying it. She says that she would rather it be broken than give it away, and that she had been treating Aaron the same way. I think this thinking goes along with why her character would give empty compliments.. She sees her "taste" as superior and her style as the best, when she encourages people to wear pieces she perceives as "ugly" she is keeping the attention on her and her "better" wardrobe. She is incapable of sharing, even sharing the attention of other student liking her clothes. Maybe a WMG but still.
Regina is just being vapid and fake. It probably gives her a real surge to tell the girl that the skirt is nice and then immediately tell Cady how ugly it is.
And it's pretty much established that it's just her way of doing things - she generally prefers sneakiness to being upfront.
Why does anyone care if Cady joins the Mathletes? They keep saying it's "social suicide" but in a school that size, who even notices four people who are good at math?
In every school, there seem to be a group of five or six people that get picked on even worse than everyone else. Mathletes = easy targets.
Plus the ringleader of the Mathletes seems to be Kevin G, who is a bit of a Jive Turkey. If Cady were in the Mathletes, it would probably be assumed she was one of his friends.
I understand that Cady was becoming the mask and acting like a bitch, but how is tricking Regina into eating bars that make her gain weight "bitchy?" I mean, this is Regina that we're talking about, and considering how she treats people in the movie, she kinda deserved it.
First this fight doesn't really involve Cady so nothing she does to the Plastics is in any measurable way justified. However the main reason her actions are shown as "bitchy" and wrong is that the entire moral of the film is that when you Pay Evil unto Evil all you do is start a Cycle of Revenge. There's an entire speech explaining that when Burn Book is revealed and the school utterly erupts. So even if Regina did deserve it Cady had no right to exact revenge that wasn't hers and ultimately Janis simply causes a larger problem by seeking revenge deservedly or not.
Two wrongs don't make a right. While Regina was in the wrong for deliberately making a pass at a boy she knew Cady liked, that doesn't justify Cady a) splitting the couple up, b) tricking Regina into gaining weight or c) manipulating her friends into turning on her. And Cady's speech towards the end says that ruining Regina's life did not improve her own at all.
Not to be a Debbie Downer, but there are serious implications to making a girl of Regina's age think she's gaining weight uncontrollably even while she's actively trying to diet. Cady's prank could have very easily driven Regina to a serious eating disorder. That's beyond merely bitchy. Thankfully, this is a lighthearted comedy so it didn't take that dark turn...but in real life, it very easily might have done.
I don't get it. Janis says that "the Plastics think that everybody is in love with them, but actually, everybody hates them." If this is true that nobody likes Regina and Cady, why did Regina always win the Spring Fling and why did Cady win the Spring Fling that year if people didn't like them?
"I'm voting for Regina George, because she got hit by that bus." "I'm voting for Cady Heron, because she pushed her." Love, hate, and popularity are complicated. Widely loathed people can still be popular or famous, and attention is still attention whether it's positive or negative. That was part of the theme of the movie. As stated on the main page, "The whole movie is arguably a Deconstructive Parody of [the Alpha Bitch trope], demonstrating how a girl can be so simultaneously loved, feared, and hated by the rest of the student body."
Cady says as much in her narration. She says that she both hated Regina and still wanted her to like her. So as much as the school may have feared or hated her, they still craved her approval. And Janis is the one saying that everyone hates them, and she's got a personal vendetta against Regina.
Am I the only one who didn't have a problem with Cady not admitting to starting a rumor that Ms. Norbury sold drugs in front of the other girls? Now I can understand Cady confessing in private, but in front of the other females? That's a very stupid thing to do. Why is it that Cady refusing to confess to starting a rumor about Ms. Norbury treated as such a big deal?
I was literally just thinking about this today. As much as I love this movie, some of the ways it tries to be like "Omg look at what a horrible person Cady has become and how everything is her fault" are total BS. Ms. Norbury, knowing full well what Cady wrote in the Burn Book, asks her during the gym assembly whether there's anything she'd like to own up to, and she says "No". Ms. Norbury says, "I'm really disappointed in you, Cady." I'm sorry, but unless you're an attorney interrogating a witness or suspect in a courtroom, if you ask a high schooler, in front of at least a hundred of her peers (many of whom already hate her) and several teachers, whether she did something that could get her suspended or even expelled, you deserve to be lied to.
Ms Norbury didn't know that Cady wrote that specific thing about her. She just knew that Cady was lying about something. And Cady could have said yes and then asked to speak in private. But she just pretended she had done nothing wrong at all.
When the October 3rd scene comes up, later during that day's class Aaron Sammuels asks Cady if she wants to go to the Halloween party that night. Which means Halloween is not on October 31st, but October 3rd in the movie.
It's actually much later in the month than that. During that sequence, Cady says they first spoke when he asked her what day it was. Then she says "two weeks later, we spoke again". This means that the party is closer to Halloween.
Why did the principal have a problem with Cady's acceptance speech at the Spring Fling ("You know, some people just take the crown and go.")? If anything, he should be applauding Cady's for apologizing because of all the drama (even an investigation!) that the Burn Book caused.
This troper assumed it was a joke about people making some big moral speech to a crowd at the end of a film.
Remember Gretchen's "I'm sorry that people are so jealous of me" speech? Given the Alpha Bitch Cady had become beforehand, he had good reason to worry she might say such a thing too.
When Principal Duvall calls Cady, Karen, and and Gretchen to his office about the Burn Book he has his wrist bandaged up with no explanation of how he got it. Huh? How did he sprain his wrist?! We never saw him injure it!
How was Regina not dead from the bus hitting her while going so fast? For that matter, how did the bus driver not see her and/or not even try to slow down?