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  • The Farmboy: Arin's Sequelitis video where he criticizes Ocarina of Time as he favoured A Link to the Past. Much of the points were pretty weak (the text's speed in Ocarina is "slow" despite you could press A to just display the full text for one.) The moment I wish to bring up is his rant against Skyward Sword. I like the game, but I could understand why people dislike it. However the reason I hate that moment is because it's irrelevant and unnecessary to what the video was about, as it went on a tangent for him to say why he hates the game so much. And on a side note, ironic since he claimed that everything is handed to you in Skyward Sword, however when he brought up A Link Between Worlds, he said it's alright even though you can purchase all of the dungeon items if you grind for rupees. If he wanted to make a video on why he hates Skyward Sword, he could've done so. Rather than having it seep through this one. To put it bluntly, the video was bloody weak.
    • shonengirl: Seconded. This was my first exposure to Egoraptor, and it wasn't a good one. What annoyed me throughout the whole video was that not only did he have to be an extreme Jerkass about his views, but had such a blatant Bias Steamroller it was infuriating, despite claiming at the start of the review that he was going to be "objective", making it seem like his opinion is objective fact. He talked as if the first Zelda was this perfect, flawless game fit for everyone, declaring that was what Zelda games "should" be. Yet he wasn't as harsh toward Link to the Past despite being arguably more linear than Skyward Sword would ever be. He blamed The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time fanboys for being nostalgia-blind when he is probably worse when it comes to the original, and refuses to accept that some people might actually like a more user-friendly style of gameplay and like, you know, an actual plot and character development. The aforementioned rant was where it all culminated, at the same time he was at his most obnoxious, meanspirited and most irrelevant, showing all his hypocrisy, It's All About Me mentality, and weak arguments before this point (which mostly boiled down to They Changed It, Now It Sucks!) building up in this giant mess of an Author Filibuster. I haven't played a Zelda game before and still he just ticked me off through the whole thing. The last comment at the end did nothing to negate how immature he had been in presenting his arguments, and I believe he is no better than that fanboy at the start of his video. He is just like those Genwunners who declare anything not Gen one of Pokemon bad. He is just as bad as those Sonic fanbrats who complain about the smallest detail. He is no better than any other raging nostalgia-blind fanboy who thinks everything should be done how he wants it. It's fine he is presenting his opinions, I get that. But he didn't have to be so darn obnoxious and hypocritical about it. It just makes me wonder how this manchild became so popular. (Then again, considering hardcore gamers, maybe I shouldn't be surprised)
    • Catmuto: Third one to agree. That was a horrible Sequelitis video and I had difficulty finishing it, simply because he kept getting off-track and ranting at Skyward Sword. Instead of focusing on what the video was supposed to be about - comparing A Link To The Past and Ocarina Of Time - he decided to stop and focus on ranting and raving about Skyward Sword which had absolutely no place in the video. It was not part of the topic of the video, nor was the title somehow indicative of it being a three of those three Zelda games. If Arin did not enjoy Skyward Sword, that's quite alright. And if he honestly wanted to voice all his disappointment or anger at what he conceived as the problems in that game, that would've had been alright, too - had he done so in a separate video, entirely devoted to said topic. I honestly thought that Arin was a decent person, able to focus on his work and to separate his personal opinion and a more objective view on matters. This video proved that he couldn't do that. Much of a fan I am of Skyward Sword, even if I was not a fan, his repeated insistence on stopping the topic of his actual video to ran about something that has no damn reason to be there, would have pissed me off nonetheless. And I personally felt like he didn't even compare A Link To The Past and Ocarina Of Time all that well, either.
    • SenorCornholio: Fourthed. I'm honestly the first troper on this segment to have (initially) enjoyed this video for the most part; the comedy was still there, with things like bomb bowling and calling out the Gorons for being such picky eaters being highlights. However, even back then I could admit that it had some serious flaws: the points he made were more YMMV than actual bad game design, his jabs at Skyward Sword were unneeded and deviated from the rest of the video entirely, and he said twice that Impa was the one that gave you the letter instead of Zelda. However, those aren't my main gripes. See, I could understand talking about Skyward Sword and using Ocarina of Time as a way to show how the ideas adopted in that game ended up forming this "spoiled rich kid" in the series. That's fine... then along comes the part where he talks about A Link Between Worlds. He goes to countless lengths praising how greatly implemented its mechanics were, while taking extra shots at Skyward Sword and Twilight Princess. Hey guys, did you know!? Egoraptor doesn't like 3D Zeldas! I just thought he didn't hammer it into your heads enough! And what's more is that, just like his gripes with Skyward Sword, they were really not needed at all. Yes, the Spinner was hardly ever used, and the Magic Armor was a very situational item (until the HD release where you can get a much bigger wallet, anyway), but did he really need to mention any of this? It feels more like this segment existed to toot Arin's own horn and complain about more 3D mechanics, and it also felt shoehorned in due to ALBW coming out during the video's production. This was just a pointless moment in an already polarizing review, and it really helped cement his bias in the Game Grumps videos to come, for better or worse.
    • KashimaKitty The part around 20 minutes into the Zelda video, where Arin talks about how the game having a story "misinforms you about what you should care about" as a player. Arin seems to view video games as his own personal sandbox where he should be able to do what he wants. After years of watching Game Grumps I can't help but think he's just projecting due to his history of impatience and inability to pay attention to what the game wants you to do. Arin has also said that he has no concept of morality in video games, so it doesn't surprise me that he thinks a "hero" is someone who just fights monsters for the glory or personal thrill of it, rather than to protect people.
  • SampaCM: To me, it was from the first episode I saw, which was Mega Man (Classic) Vs. Mega Man X, in the first minutes Egoraptor was giving good points, but then, when he started talking about the infamous platforms in Guts Man's stage, a hand-drawn Roll appears, and exclaims "Watch Out Mega Man. There are holes ahead!", but then. the animated Egoraptor pops out of nowhere and... punches her in the face... What the heck was that!? Why was that necessary? As a fan of Roll that moment of unnecessary violence infuriated me and stopped the video immediately. This was the first video I saw from him, but probably the last one, too.
    • Dr Zulu 2010: To me, it's more of a DMOS in hindsight. In this video, he throws a rant regarding how modern games are over-tutorialized. Now, forced tutorials has been a constant complain about modern games, I get that (I'm so sick and tired to see the same unskippable tutorial about catching Pokemon when I've played this series since its inception to the point that I know more about the art of capture than any characters in the games) but, like I said, in hindsight, Arin may not be the one to speak against it considering that a common criticism about his Game Grumps videos (his recent ones, mostly) is that he skipped tutorials and acts like it's the game's fault for not explaining. It's one thing to complain about tutorials. It's another one to do this and not realizing that you're part of the problem.
  • rjd1922: When talking about the Polygon Ceiling in his Zelda video, I was particularly annoyed by Arin illustrating it with a glitch of Sonic falling sideways in Lost World in Sonic Adventure, a glitch you have to go out of your way to trigger, just to make another cheap shot at Sonic, especially when there are no shortage of legitimate bugs from 3D Sonic games he could have shown instead.

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