YMMV / Sequelitis

  • Broken Base: Zelda sequelitis. On the one hand, there's people who praise Arin for having the guts to criticize such a highly-praised game as Ocarina of Time at all. On the other hand, there's the people who claim many of the points he brought up were not legitimate criticisms in the slightest, such as "too much plot," "no overhead camera,"note  "treasure chest animations" and "unintuitive puzzles"note . Even the most common complaint of the game was barely touched on for 5 seconds amidst all the arbitrary gripes. It felt more like whining about the transition to story-driven 3D adventures than a discussion about game design as the other episodes had beennote .
    • There's also the people who feel that Ego's basically comparing a game with a polished and perfected formula (A Link to the Past) to a game trying out a new and experimental (at the time) formula (Ocarina of Time). Again, this doesn't put him in a favorable light.
    • And then Arin started playing Ocarina of Time on Game Grumps, and after numerous displays of extreme incompetence with the game, many have come to feel that his entire treatise on Ocarina of Time can be safely disregarded because he doesn't know what he's talking about, and that this is just another instance of his notorious habit of blaming games for his own mistakes.
    • There's also his constant putting-down attitude to Skyward Sword, culminating in him setting up an entire sidebar in his review of an entirely different game just to bash it. A particularly sour note was the rather insulting allegation that fans of the game like it only because it's a Zelda game. While those who hated the game agreed with his views, some thought he went too far. And to say that the people who liked the game were offended is an understatement... It becomes even worse with the reveal in a Game Grumps episode that he never even finished the game because he couldn't figure out bomb bowling.
  • Critical Research Failure:
  • Franchise Original Sin: Traces of the more controversial elements of the Zelda episode can be seen all the way back in the first video, Castlevania vs. Castlevania II: Simon's Quest. At the very end, Arin makes a statement that the modern Castlevania titles, the ones that took more cues from II than the original, are similar to junk food (quick to eat, hard to savor) while the original title is more like a fulfilling dessert. This mirrors the Zelda video by speaking highly of old-school design philosophy while holding modern iterations under scrutiny, but the key differences are that he does attempt to see why people could like them (he notices that the elements of II are done in a much flashier, more satisfying way) and avoids disparaging the people who enjoy them.
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: This series is seen a lot differently by fans of Game Grumps due to how Arin as a lets-player is a radical antithesis to everything he says here. The most frequently-cited example is how Arin rants about characters popping up to tell you annoying and unnecessary information, as there are dozens of moments where an episode of Game Grumps would have gone a lot better if Arin had bothered to read the on-screen prompts instead of just ignoring them. A good amount of the fanbase is able to compromise these two conflicting portrayals with the realization that Arin's game design theories are only really applicable to old-school gaming and aren't fully applicable to modern game design.
  • It's Easy, So It Sucks:
    • Played with in his Super Castlevania IV video. He notes that the increased power of the whip isn't a bad thing on its own, rather that it reduces the complexity of combat and makes the subweapons pointless. He suggests that the game might have been better if it ditched the subweapons and focused on unique challenges designed for the whip, not necessarily to make the game harder, but to make it more cohesive.
    • Played straight in his Zelda video, where one of his major complaints about modern Zelda games is how they aren't as challenging as the original or A Link to The Past, to the point of being outright unstimulating.
  • It's the Same, Now It Sucks: He criticizes the Zelda series for sticking too close to formula. Skyward Sword infuriates him the most, which is interesting considering that others say the game changed too much.
  • Memetic Mutation:
    • JUMP 'N SHOOT MAN!
    • "And then Capcom was like 'Fuck!'"
    • Many Mega Man-related videos will have at least one poster saying "X... is pretty smart. Y... is pretty fucking smart. Z is FUCKING...GENIUS!!!"
    • From the same video, a high-pitched "Mega Man! Mega Man!" (said by Roll acting like a hypothetical annoying Exposition Fairy, Egoraptor's point being that those games could teach the player without needing one) is now often quoted by Let's Players when unnecessary annoying exposition shows up in games. Probably a reference to Navi mode in Rockman Complete Works and the Anniversary Collection, but that was unvoiced and completely optional... unlike in a few of the later Mega Man X games.
    • RIDIN' ON CARS!!! *Air Guitar*
  • Opinion Myopia: Subverted. For all the legitimate criticisms fans can make about the Zelda episode, he does manage to avert this. He starts the review with a gag that essentially asks the audience to let him say his piece and, at the end, thanks them for watching the video even if they don't agree and telling them that they aren't bad people for disagreeing with him.
    • Double subverted though, with his rant about Skyward Sword from the same episode, where he angrily accuses critics and consumers of regarding the game highly merely because it was a Zelda game, and that it had no redeeming quality on its own. This was apparently not him playing up his rage for the sake of comedy, and has stated that he truly believes what he said.
  • They Changed It, Now It Sucks: Being a series of opinion pieces about the differences between originals and sequels, some level of this was inevitable. His Zelda video, though, has been accused of this quite a bit. See Broken Base above.
  • The Woobie: Roll.


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