Discussion YMMV / DmCDevilMayCry

There was a lot of willful misinterpretation of character motives on the page. Most notably it seems someone was determined to argue that Dante was as complicit as Vergil in killing Lilith and her child when his first reaction after ensuring Kat and Vergil's safety is to yell at Vergil about it. This sort of falls in the same category, the only way to have a sympathetic reading of Mundus is to take his rant before Dante has sufficiently pissed him off completely at face value, something we're never given any real reason to do. While there's more freedom in a YMMV page, there were a lot of entries that were syptomatic of an attempt to read the story as negatively as possible.

Exactly my problem with the entry. I felt it was just trying to read the protagonists (and possibly the game) in a negative light so we feel uncomfortable about playing it. The morals aren't black and white, that much is certain. And while Mundus may be keeping humanity on a stable path, someone neglected to mention he's also subjecting humanity to total domination against their will without them realizing it, all as a means of having a cattle of souls to harvest for his personal pleasure.

I honestly feel this page needs a thorough sweep of the suggestively biased entries till the fanbase cools down. As you said, there's a lot of negativity going around.

Surely then entries which have the perspective that Mundas was in the right to a degree simply need a little bit of editing to represent both perspectives without needing outright deletion?

Just because an entry doesn't represent your perspective doesn't give you the right to destroy it.

We must endeavour to be as even handed as possible without lashing out.

Mundus is not in the right. He's a tyrannical, vicious dictator. There's no way to present him as anything else without actively misinterpreting the content. Certainly collapsing the boundary between Limbo and the real world is going to result in immediate chaos, but the demons were preying on humans long before that. Now they're exposed, and there had to be a reason they kept themselves hidden.

In addition, the idea that everything Vergil does he did with Dante's full knowledge and approval is not supported, anywhere. Dante chews out Vergil often, starting with when SWAT is breaking into the server room. Dante's initial surliness isn't a good reason to act as though he's a complete bastard; Vergil's supportive treatment of Dante (his brother, his fellow Nephilim) isn't a good reason to act as though he's a really caring person in general. And if you don't like the game, that's fine, but there's no reason to try convincing anyone that they shouldn't like the game (or the characters). That's not what the wiki's about, remember?

Dm C Devil May Cry

Well the fighting is still going and they're taking it out on the Metal Gear fans. XD

You did see the demnos going berserk on the humans at the end when both worlds merge right?

If you're trying to make a point, I'm afraid I don't get it. Are you saying that the Demons attacking the humans in the merged world somehow supports Mundus's claims? If so, how? And if not, what are you actually trying to say?

I think the point is that when Mundas was in control the demons weren't opening preying on mankind, and that through The Masquerade humans were prospering by never being threatened by extinction.

Honestly the world seemed much better off without Limbo and Reality fused together, and apparently Mundas was the one who imposed that division through the Hell Gate.

Apart from the dudes suffering in Barba's prison and Munda's office, life before Dante came along seemed fairly cushy.

There's also the fact that, to some players, the protagonists are completely insufferable, and toiling under a demon god is preferable when compared to putting up with them.