I feel that on the Tear Jerker page it makes sense to not have real life examples.
But that's not the same as discussing specific media based on real life. The movie Selma has a Tear Jerker page, despite being based on real life. Contra Points videos are media that are being discussed and analyzed in the context of this wiki. It makes sense for it to have Tear Jerker moments just like any other tropes.
“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands." ~Anthony Bourdain
Fair. The line between fiction and non-fiction isn't a completely fine one. Ideally, I think any Tear Jerker examples should refrain from mentioning real life events, except insofar as they are crucially relevant to the fictional examples listed. This is why I left the Tiffany Tumbles entry, since Tiffany is a fictional character, albeit one meant to be based on real people. Conversely, the story of "Joanne," obligatory pseudonym notwithstanding, is itself explicitly a memoir of a real-life event. Selma, by contrast, while based on real events, is a movie fueled by actors and performances, and is not just a historical account or documentary. The performances could be said to be the core Tear Jerker, not specifically the events they are based upon (though obviously those are a significant factor).
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Yeah, Selma wasn't the best example. I was just trying to quickly think of "what's something based on actual events that contains tear jerkers." First thought was Schindler's List, but didn't want to go full Godwin.
Other examples include plenty of other YouTubers who have tear jerkers listed on their YMMV page or have enough for entire Tear Jerker pages. Or Stephen Colbert on The Colbert Report; he was playing a character but was also himself in much the same way Natalie has both played a character of herself, but is also kind of her real self. I think the application of "no real life examples" is too stringent here, following the letter of the law instead the intent.
Edited by ciyinwanderer “Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands." ~Anthony Bourdain
You might want to take that up with the moderators then. Tear Jerker pages for YouTubers like The Philip De Franco Show and Philosophy Tube were recently cut for only containing real-life examples, so that appears to be the policy being enforced right now. If there are any other such YouTubers pages, they may not be valid either, and may be cut if reported to the cutlist.
That said, I think the "Voting" example could be kept with some edits. Something like this:
- In "Voting," there's a moment during her description of the difference of suicidal action and suicidal ideation, where a hypothetical therapist suggests medication. Where a typical Contrapoints performance leans into exaggeration and humor, here she just sounds... dead and defeated.
Also remember, Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment applies to any real-life drama as well.
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No objections for a week, so I'm making the discussed revisions. Please discuss further before reverting any changes.
Want to avoid an Edit War; the following entries were listed under Tear Jerker:
Tear Jerker is currently under No Real Life Examples, Please!, for being "Too Common." To the best of my understanding, this includes real life events explicitly referenced in news, memoirs, video essays, etc.
Any objections?
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