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torru369 Since: Jan, 2011
Feb 10th 2020 at 9:50:08 PM •••

So why is Winter's injured state not Fan Disservice? Fan Disservice and Fanservice are not complimentary nor are they not non-complimentary.

They can be completely separate from each other. There's a lot of examples of characters injured states made sure to look like serious injury's instead of demure vulnerability in the Fan Disservice page.

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Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
Feb 14th 2020 at 2:55:54 PM •••

Relying on other examples to prove whether a different example is using a trope correctly is a really bad idea since a lot of tropes attract misuse (especially fan service tropes).

The point of Fan Disservice is that the entire framing of the moment has to be Fanservice but in a way that turns people off instead of on. It's effectively the subversion of fanservice — a set up for fan service that results in the opposite of the expected trope happening.

What happens to Winter is more a case of prim and proper characters whose dishevelled appearance is a symbol of just how complete their defeat is. There is a trope for that, but it's not a fan service trope.

If you're seeing fanservice in a scene that is clearly not an intentional framing of "fanservice gone wrong" and is clearly not intended as fanservice at all, you're dealing with Fetish Fuel/Rule Thirty Four, and that's no longer tropable.

Edited by Wyldchyld If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Praxus84 Since: Jan, 2020
Feb 2nd 2020 at 11:29:18 AM •••

Hey, so, I managed to write down Ozpin's speech about fear down word for word, and I was wondering if there's some way I can post it on this site without upsetting the cleanup crew. Can anybody help me?

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