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CrimsonPain Since: Jul, 2014
May 11th 2016 at 10:44:48 AM •••

Could I get some help in starting a more neutral rewrite of this recap going? The amount of snark, attempts at "biting" humor, and dumb labeling (Stannis a "false prophet"? Huh?) really take away from the recap. I think a straight synopsis would speak to the episode's strengths and weaknesses on its own.

TompaDompa Since: Jan, 2012
Jun 15th 2015 at 3:24:01 AM •••

For the record, the official website confirms Stannis, Myrcella, and Jon as dead.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Jun 15th 2015 at 9:28:16 AM •••

Jon's definitely dead, but he probably won't stay dead, given Mel's proximity...

The rest... yeah, prolly dead.

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JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
Jun 15th 2015 at 8:05:22 AM •••

A lot of people are adding Stannis Baratheon to Asshole Victim. One, the usual use of the trope is that when the person dies, people don't feel bad. The way the scene is shot, with Stannis getting a Face Death with Dignity line, we are meant to feel bad for him. Furthermore, David Benioff himself confirmed that this is an Intended Reaction. To quote David Benioff in Inside the Episode [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHMuqH7yOQc], Brienne killing Stannis is not intended to be an Asshole Victim, Stannis he says is brave and has good qualities even if he does monstrous things and Stannis sees death as a relief, so not this trope at all.

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