Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Unclear Description
, started by icewaterfire22 on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:42:07 AM
deleted some examples, because it is assumed that the Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist is a "Comedy Antiheroes.".
Erc Cartman, Blackadder, Zim and Bender, are Villain Protagonists, not Antiheroes.
Edited by cclospina Hide / Show Replies
I think you're being too literal. The description does not say the character is an antihero. It says they are a counterpart to an antihero. One of the main functions of an antihero is that they serve as a contrast to a regular hero. The Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist is a "counterpart" because they likewise contrast against the typically sympathetic version.
The words "unsympathetic comedy protagonist" are ridiculously apt for describing all of those characters. They are protagonists. They are comedic. And they are very, very unsympathetic. How does deleting them help? Why not work the description instead?
Edited by Tyoria
Blackadder is in a long line of British unsympathetic comedy protagonists. Characters definitely shouldn't be deleted on ^^ those grounds.
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The edited description says it's a Jerkass in comedy who you're supposed to root for anyway. You're generally not supposed to root for a Villain Protagonist. So it still sounds like at least a type of comedy antiheroes, if not just any comedy antihero. The person being too literal is you, Tyoria.
Edited by ading I'm a Troper!!!
The point cclospina's making goes back to the mess we had at the Sliding Scale Of Antiheroes. Over there it is stipulated that a character being labeled an "antihero" meant they had not gone past a certain "evil threshhold" that would have taken them into a new category of "villain". So the contention here is that because the Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist page said a UCP was comparable to an antihero, by extension a UCP should never overlap with Villain Protagonist. Do you honestly think characters should be disqualified as a UCP based on some nebulous "evilness rating" that hardly anyone agrees on?
Besides, you can often root for a Villain Protagonist or are at least not explicitly discouraged from doing so.
Yeah, I never liked this kind of character. Like, Peter Griffin in modern Family Guy falls under this, and if anything, I wish that he was DEAD! Maybe it's due to my righteous indignation, but this very trait is the very reason I don't watch Family Guy, like ever. But for some reason, there are people who like this shit? Like, I never once saw the appeal in anyone like that. If anything, I'd just be waiting for them to get their comeuppance.
Edited by MrStranger616