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Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 18th 2023 at 6:02:35 AM •••

Is it possible to include non-video game examples when said non-video game examples are about characters who exist in video games, particularly when it is commentary of characters in video games? Charles and Bernard from Epic NPC Man spring to mind.

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Mar 20th 2021 at 9:17:58 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name, started by Zuxtron on Oct 30th 2017 at 2:06:16 AM

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GMon Since: Oct, 2010
Jul 30th 2013 at 12:25:35 AM •••

Just out of curiosity, would references to this trope in media be allowed on this page? The particular example I have in mind is Ernest Adams of The Designer's Notebook referring to this trope in some of his columns; "Preventing the Downward Spiral" comes to mind.

FlawedParadigm Since: Jul, 2009
Mar 19th 2013 at 9:48:59 AM •••

Any chance we can use [1] as a page image?

(Edited to link image instead of attempted embedding. -Tel)

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
Mar 19th 2013 at 11:35:42 AM •••

Demotivators aren't allowed as page images, sorry. If you can come up with a version that will work whilst not invoking that meme (or if you think just cropping out the picture is clear enough), please do take your suggestion to the Image Pickin forum.

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SkarmoryThePG von Boomslang Since: Jan, 2001
von Boomslang
Dec 8th 2011 at 10:10:52 AM •••

So, if this is an AI trope, what would be the trope to use for a character who has suicidal overconfidence as a character trait?

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illegalcheese Since: Apr, 2010
Feb 23rd 2012 at 12:27:27 PM •••

Attack! Attack! Attack!, supposedly. However that only applies as far combat and offense. I don't think there's a trope where a character is insanely overconfident of his abilities, to the extent where he endangers himself. That's the sense in which Suicidal Overconfidence is commonly misused.

24.91.193.156 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 4th 2010 at 6:35:30 AM •••

Is there any reason why this and Attack! Attack! Attack! are separate tropes? This seems to be the same thing but for videogames, and aren't we trying to avoid "Like X but Y" tropes?

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ImmortalAlien Since: Jan, 2010
Feb 23rd 2011 at 8:06:38 PM •••

This is specifically for the AI in video games, characters that actually Attack Attack Attack as a personality trait should not be listed as examples.

Example of Attack Attack Attack - In an RPG, you're a level 60 badass and then an obviously weak NPC says something like 'I know you killed my superior, but I think that was just a fluke. NOW I ATTACK YOU!'

Example of Suicidal Overconfidence - You are a level 60 badass and some level 5 NPC attacks you with no in-story explanation.

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GigaHand Since: Jan, 2010
Mar 1st 2011 at 7:53:51 AM •••

But does that really require two seperate articles? (Not OP, btw)

Flameblight Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 5th 2010 at 8:47:21 AM •••

I read the bit about pokemon and how Diamond and Peal implies that the wild pokemon attack because they want to be trained and are trying to impress you. I Want to add "That...That's actually kind of touching.' but would that be too much like a discussion in the examples?

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AddythePawnSlayer Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 5th 2010 at 10:07:26 AM •••

Correct, it would. Articles need to look like they've been written by one person all the way through, and comments like that are better here or on the forum.

Can I just say by the way, very many thanks for actually asking first before just adding it! Well done!

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