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76.23.218.12 Since: Dec, 1969
Aug 1st 2010 at 8:26:12 AM •••

Wouldn't the example of Neon Genesis Evangelion be an example of "Accepting such silly superstitions"? I mean, within the show's universe, it basically solidifies the notion that there is a god. It might not be strictly the way we interpret it, but, well, you know.

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joeyjojo Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 15th 2010 at 5:52:16 PM •••

well it's not clear about that. either way it's to only set a few years into the future and not a hight tech space age society.

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joeyjojo Since: Jan, 2001
Sep 15th 2010 at 5:52:16 PM •••

well it's not clear about that. either way it's to only set a few years into the future and not a hight tech space age society.

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Bosco13 Since: Jun, 2010
Aug 25th 2022 at 5:31:24 AM •••

The angels in Evangelion aren't angels. They're aliens that are called angels.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! Since: Jan, 2001
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May 17th 2010 at 7:48:29 PM •••

"During Russell T Davies run on Doctor Who, there was little to no mention of magic or religion, and when it was it was usually proven to be science based or very vaguely described. In interviews, RTD (who is an atheist) claimed that he had banned God from the writer's room, wanting to depict a future where religion had just died out"

if that's is true than he did a very poor job of it, penalty of episodes in his run have not only have religion going strong but had myth based monsters with only a token bit of technobabble stopping them from drifting into outright fantasy. all in all the nuw who had a much greater mysticism than the old stuff.

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laughingmanx19 Since: Dec, 1969
May 18th 2010 at 4:25:55 PM •••

Well, there are multiple ways of looking at it. Firstly, most of the episodes that featured any sort of religion were either in the present or past, so it still counts as he said he wanted to depict his future as religion free. Second, any monsters with religious ties were either "myth" based (hence, not affiliated with any current religions), or explained to be alien in nature. For instance, during his battle with the Devil in "The Satan Pit" it is first established that the creature is not the actual Devil. It is instead an ancient creature who's tales have been altered into our religious ones about the Devil. It might be a handwave, but it still counts. The same goes for werewolves and angels, both of whom are proven to be alien in origin in the whoiverse.

joeyjojo Since: Jan, 2001
May 18th 2010 at 9:01:08 PM •••

well the lack of genuine magic and gods is a genre convention, Doctor Who is softer than jelly pudding, but still science fiction. as for the existent of Religion (or lack therefor) in the far future i don't know if it ever came up, but like star trek he may of simply lacked the creative control to state his opinions outright.

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joeyjojo Since: Jan, 2001
May 18th 2010 at 9:01:08 PM •••

well the lack of genuine magic and gods is a genre convention, Doctor Who is softer than jelly pudding, but still science fiction. as for the existent of Religion (or lack therefor) in the far future i don't know if it ever came up, but like star trek he may of simply lacked the creative control to state his opinions outright.

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94.9.139.139 Since: Dec, 1969
Jun 14th 2010 at 9:37:04 AM •••

Here's some fridge logic, if religion had 'just died out', what was Platform One banning?

Atarn Since: Aug, 2018
Aug 4th 2018 at 4:00:42 AM •••

In regards to the Cthulhutech entry: Christianity might be gone, but the books state that Islam is still around only that all the moderates were killed off by the devout.

Gillimer Since: May, 2011
Nov 22nd 2011 at 4:09:36 PM •••

We need a related trope for cases where the writer simply eradicates religion from the invented world without any plausible rationale. Barrayar has certainly NOT Outgrown Such Silly Superstition, (especially where mutants are concerned), but there is no cognizable reason why religion should have disappeared on a planet largely colonized by Russians and Greeks without leaving any,er, relics of Orthodox Christianity.

Another is Sime Gen, where the only religion is the Church of the Purity (and Fort Freedom's offshoot of it), which in turn has no visible theology except Simes Are Evil. Word of God is that everybody else has abandoned religion for "new spiritual ways", but there is no good reason for it except that Author on Board likes it that way.

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rebuscarnival Since: Dec, 2011
Dec 29th 2011 at 6:54:12 PM •••

In addition, almost every example under literature is an example of this trope being averted. If theism or evolved religion is the most prevalent expression of this idea, isn't the "Outgrown..." trope a straw dog or a faux trope?? The most vanilla example here is a kids in the hall sketch; almost every relevant work of fiction is contrary to the definition.

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! Since: Jan, 2001
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Jul 29th 2010 at 9:12:35 AM •••

'''Occasionally a few small minority religions will still be around, almost always of theology that can be treated as the province of harmless fanatics. Jews and Mormons seem to be favorites, as are Magical Native Americans. and Magical Negroes. the assumption being that a history of persecution discourages one from persecuting others. (History buffs love to point out that one Did Not Do The Research; Catholics were persecuted by the Romans to the point of publicly setting them on fire, yet a few centuries later they were ready, willing and able to do the same to others.)''

How is persecution a part of this trope? is the author suggesting than in future blacks and native Americans are going to start rounding people up? because seriously that how it reads.

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