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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 2:28:27 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: If not rename, at LEAST redirect farm..., started by Leaper on May 30th 2011 at 3:50:28 AM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KrytenKoro Since: Nov, 2010
Jul 15th 2014 at 12:17:38 PM •••

Can someone please explain this trope to me? I get the lead — we have stuff like Marik being on the blimp last time we saw him, and when we come back much, much later, he's still right there. But the majority of the examples seem to be, not actual uses of the trope, but fanfictiony "what if the last thing we saw them do just went on forever, regardless of them appearing in later works (Runaways), it being a deliberate or accidental Bolivan Army Ending (a good majority of them), or the laws of physics (the Jason speedboat)? Wouldn't that be WEIRD?!"

Am I missing something fundamental here?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 15th 2014 at 12:24:56 PM •••

The trope is about the fact that if there is an interruption in the story flow, the characters upon resumption will be doing whatever they were doing before the interruption.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
JohnimusPrime Since: Mar, 2011
Jul 29th 2014 at 2:58:51 AM •••

Actually, it's not even that. It's about the fact that, unless we are given reason to believe otherwise, we will assume that the characters will be doing whatever we last saw them doing.

SomeGuy Some Guy Since: Jan, 2001
Some Guy
Apr 21st 2010 at 9:15:17 PM •••

Tethercat Principle?

This trope only has anything to do with tethercats in the vaguest, most meta sense conceivable. I can't find any evidence that this is a popular term outside of TV Tropes, or even inside it. Any support for a rename here?

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SomeGuy Since: Jan, 2001
May 23rd 2010 at 6:24:49 PM •••

...Since we seem to like renaming, here's some alternative titles. Remember there's nothing stopping you from adding suggestions.

Edited by SomeGuy See you in the discussion pages.
rhunter42dragon Since: Nov, 2011
Dec 11th 2013 at 2:01:04 PM •••

But the name doesn't actually refer to the cartoon itself. It refers to Gary Larson's comments in The Prehistory Of The Far Side: A 10th Anniversary Exhibit where Larson uses this trope to explain why people were angered. He dubbed the phenomenon "The Tethercat Principle." Gary Larson isn't just the trope namer in the usual sense of having a trope named after him, he actually named it! Calling this trope anything other than "The Tethercat Principle" is basically taking someone else's work and putting your own name on it!

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Dec 12th 2013 at 6:18:05 AM •••

He put a name on an existing principle. It's not like people before The Prehistory of the Far Side never believed in Offscreen Inertia.

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JohnimusPrime Since: Mar, 2011
Jul 29th 2014 at 2:57:31 AM •••

Putting a name on something is still significant. Just because it was always a thing doesn't mean that properly pointing it out and giving it a name is meaningless. The world was already aware of the fact that advanced technology would be perceived as magic by primitive peoples, long before that fact came to be called Clarke's Third Law. As far as I know, nobody had ever really formally described this trope's phenomenon until Larson did, nor named it. Therefore, his contribution definitely matters and, at the very least, the name should really reflect that contribution. In any case, I submit that "Offscreen Inertia" is a stupid name, if only because it's just boring. Accurately descriptive? Eh...if you explain what it means, sure, but doesn't that defeat the purpose of a name? Also, the title is nonsensical. "Offscreen Inertia" is just the same thing as regular Inertia. The whole name just sounds like someone rushed out a new name and didn't really give it any thought or care. "Narrative Inertia" is a bit more accurate, but still doesn't sound great to me. Anyway, I don't understand the need for everything on here to have technical-sounding names. It's purely a pop-culture-oriented site, and other, similarly esoteric trope names have made their way to the greater lexicon simply by virtue of TV Tropes' popularity. Personally, I liked "Tethercat Principle" a lot better. The trope is not actually about the things in the work itself; it's purely about our own psychology, and how our brains perceive the actions of observe objects. "Offscreen Inertia", to me, implies that, for example, the dogs actually do keep playing the game for eternity...it's not just our perception, it is reality. It also is referring to a theoretical force that causes the phenomenon, rather than referring to the phenomenon itself. To me, the "Principle" part, at least, reflects the fact that it is a quirk of our psychology that makes us perceive it this way. "Larson's Law" would also work, unless you can point me to somebody else who concisely defined and described it first or, failing that, more famously. And if you doubt Gary Larson's significance to scientific jargon, I urge to you look up "Thagomizer" on The Other Wiki.

Anyway, long story short, if it really rubs you the wrong way, then it doesn't have to be specifically "Tethercat Principle", but "Offscreen Inertia" just doesn't work, and I think Larson deserves some kind of recognition.

Potman Since: Jan, 2001
Feb 11th 2011 at 10:42:10 AM •••

I'm not sure we should keep that image there, considering Larson's stance to having his stuff online. Change it to something else or just remove?

152.10.105.84 Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 15th 2010 at 11:45:01 AM •••

Can anyone tell me why Dead Letter Office was put under folklore instead of literature? I'm not sure if I accidentally put it there when I entered it in, or if someone's moved it there since then, but if someone has I'm kind of curious about the reason. I actually don't know anything about this story other than the fact that it scared me to death when I was younger. I would actually like to know where it comes from, if anyone has any idea.

Pro-Mole Professional Mole Since: Jun, 2010
Professional Mole
Aug 31st 2010 at 5:43:28 PM •••

I'm gonna take these two out:

Because, obvously, the car has to land sooner or later. Unless this is a joke or something.

  • In Cloudy With A Chance Of Meatballs, Flint and Sam jump into a swimming pool of jello. Flint does a belly-flop and bounces, but Sam ends up embedded in the jello, holding her breath, with no apparent way out. Even though she's fine in the next scene, it still creeps me out.

Since they show the aftermath, this is not the same as the Tethercat. You know she gets out. If the movie ended on that scene, then yes, it's this trope, I reckon.

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ACarlssin Since: Jan, 2001
Apr 21st 2010 at 2:50:11 PM •••

A Carlssin: This isn't really the same thing, but one thing that always bugged me about The Little Mermaid, is that when Arial is first transformed into a human, she's naked from the waist down. Later, when her father transforms her, we, the audience, have no reason to believe things will be different this time. Presumably, she's half naked again, and the animation does not make it clear that she's magically clothed this time for a short (but still uncomfortable) amount of time.

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