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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 20th 2021 at 11:56:58 AM •••

Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Complaining, started by helterskelter on Mar 22nd 2012 at 8:03:05 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Aug 30th 2020 at 3:04:41 PM •••

Personally, I like giving ALL major characters unique looks to them, regardless of sex. Though I have been guilty of the half dressed male and fully dressed female trope. Though almost, since some of mine don't wear shoes.

lavendermintrose Since: Nov, 2012
Apr 7th 2019 at 7:51:25 PM •••

Not quite trope related, just general - part of my goal, artistically, is to show male characters being "special," or "mystical," or "awe-inspiring" in ways that you usually only see with female characters (e.g. angels, mermaids, fairies, etc. are female by default, because hetero men would be weirded out by having those feelings of awe towards a male).

I care about showing male characters being mystical, while everyone else has the opposite covered (how every freaking movie nowadays is about Action Girls slaughtering people, and if it were male characters, you could complain about the violence, but if you complain about violence perpetrated by a woman, they all say you're just sexist).

Because the mystical side is important - it shouldn't be banished and burnt as simply having existed to restrict women. I think that showing both male and female characters being both mystical and practical - showing the same character doing both - is the way to move forward.

(Also, regardless of gender, action "heroes" slaughtering people is about the furthest thing from practical, and the species needs to get over that already).

Edited by lavendermintrose I made this Idolized Julius Kingsley icon back when Akito first came out, and now that the crossover is actually happening, I don't care. Hide / Show Replies
MrStranger616 Since: Feb, 2020
Aug 30th 2020 at 3:02:51 PM •••

Fairies are kind of an inversion of this, since they're usually imagined as female

tragisk Since: Sep, 2017
Sep 1st 2017 at 1:25:02 PM •••

Suggestion: Change "Men are generic" to "Men are neutral/normal". "Generic" implies that men look alike, but the opposite is true: Men tend to be represented as physically more diverse than women, while women tend to look more generic.*

I order to convey that men are the norm, "generic" should be replaced with "neutral" or "normal" in the title.

  • Siede, "Every female face in recent Disney and Pixar movies looks the same", AV News.

Kombucha Since: Jun, 2013
Dec 1st 2015 at 5:18:57 AM •••

Just thought I'd leave a note here to explain my deletion of one of the examples. I'm a bit of a noob here so hopefully I'm doing it right. The example gave unisex clothing as a real life example. It claimed women have proportionally shorter torsos than men, but "unisex" clothing is sized with a longer, male torso in mind. In fact (somewhat unsurprisingly considering evolutionary "roles") men have proportionally longer legs and shorter torsos than women. The fact that it can seem the other way round is probably down to women often being more slender and different fashions (women wear trousers higher than men).

Regardless, it wouldn't make sense for a unisex item of clothing to be too small in some proportions for one sex or gender.

Wolfzoon That one. Since: Mar, 2011
That one.
Apr 18th 2012 at 7:32:01 AM •••

In Dutch, the archaic word for "doctor" is "geneesheer", which approximately translates to "healing man". There is a gender-neutral word for it, "geneeskundige" ("healer"), but it's hardly ever used since people use the words "arts" or "dokter" instead... which are both masculine nouns.

Needless to say, this will be a rant about Dutch. For your enjoyment, take an English version as well:

These words aren't masculine at all, there are no female words for "arts" or "dokter", it's simply the job description! What should be noted are "fireman". Or the word for paramedic: "ambulance brother". And it's the other way around as well: "Sister" is used when referring to a nurse, and stewardess is the normal way of calling that job as well. I was hired at a supermarket as a "kassiere", a female cashier, the ad said "Wanted: kassiere, (M/F)"

[dutch]

Wat. Wat zijn de "vrouwelijke" woorden voor arts en dokter dan? Artsin? Artses? Arts is dubbelslachtig! Had hier dan brandweerman gebruikt. Of ambulancebroeder. Bovendien zijn er genoeg woorden waar het andersom is; "Zuster" in de zin van verpleegkundige, of stewardess. Ik was ingehuurd bij de Albert Heijn met "Gezocht: kassiere (M/V)"

[/dutch]

Edited by Wolfzoon Natter. Natter. [[Friends Word's lost all meaning.]] Links are hard it seems.
TheGiraffe Since: Mar, 2012
Apr 18th 2012 at 2:14:09 AM •••

Women are Special, quoted verbatim by Ann Romney.

Andaron Since: Dec, 1969
Feb 4th 2012 at 12:16:38 AM •••

Shale in the DLC for Dragon Age Origins. I honestly thought golem = male (if any gender). Boy was I wrong.

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