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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Mar 22nd 2021 at 10:36:59 AM •••

Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Conflicting Description, started by Fighteer on Apr 21st 2011 at 11:17:35 PM

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
MithrandirOlorin Since: May, 2012
Dec 16th 2012 at 8:09:55 AM •••

Interesting how Professional Wrestling is the Trope Namer by Proxy yet it never actually happens there, the opposite frequently seems to happen in wrestling, if the only female in a group is the one who jumps ship, you can bet it's a Face–Heel Turn not the other way. Some women like both Tory and Liz in their WCW runs do this constantly, only ever being back in the face position because the Wrestler they where linked to changed.

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Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 25th 2012 at 6:29:25 PM •••

This doesn't seem like an example, since it does not indicate a Heel–Face Turn:

  • In Magician Lord, the female miniboss is the only enemy character who doesn't visibly explode, instead slumping over in defeat. Odd as her female bodyguards and the mooks die in firey explosions like everything else.

70.117.241.214 Since: Dec, 1969
Dec 25th 2010 at 8:50:14 AM •••

Just an observation on the Avatar: The Last Airbender entry - Ty Lee is more of a generic Heel Face Turn than a High Heel Face Turn since there's no "redemption romance" involved. Mai is the only one who fits this trope, being that she never really seemed to resent Azula until Zuko became a factor.

Tipz Since: Jun, 2009
Mar 27th 2010 at 2:12:03 PM •••

From The Incredibles entry:

(Played more realistically than the usual, since her Heel–Face Turn comes not through falling in love with the hero but more sensibly through realising that her villainous boyfriend/employer doesn't actually care if she lives or dies.)

  • I see Mirage as a Punch-Clock Villain who didn't realize at first that the project she was working on was truly heinous. Her Heel–Face Turn actually begins when she learns that Syndrome has no qualms about killing children.
  • Well she was complicit in the deaths of dozens of superheroes - and if her conversations with Mr. Incredible are any guide was cold blooded enough to happily chat with them beforehand (making her talk of "valuing life" a touch hypocritical).
    • Well, yeah. But superpowered adults with a fighting chance are not quite the same thing as shooting down a plane with supposedly helpess children, is it?
    • Not really since the 'fighting chance' is pretty much 'if you're good enough to beat it we'll build a stronger one that will kill you'. She also didn't seem care that the robot might kill plenty of children (or other helpless, non-superpowered people) in it's ramapage across Metroville. She's evil, and complaining about the children only makes her an evil hypocrite.

It's conversation in the main page, so i'm putting here (but leavnig the example on the list). The back and forth adds nothing to the actual example.

Take that, society!
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