Messaged a couple of people. I am not convinced by the deletion reasons - the first one doesn't contradict the entry, the second is rude.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
It's not presented as a total fact. Fletcher twists the truth and actively lies. He claims a former student died in a car accident, when he really committed suicide from what's heavily implied to be partially out of Fletcher's tactics, and misleads the protagonist into nearly ruining his career in front of well-respected jazz labels with outright lies and trickery. In addition, why would the protagonist challenge the story? At that point, Andrew is scared and doesn't want to dredge up any further beef with Fletcher.
Of course, I'm speaking as a fanboy using false arguments, so maybe a third party could weigh in.
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The point is this isn't about Fletcher and the characters. This is about information. The film uses that anecdote repeatedly and that anecdote clearly inspires Miles Teller's character as seen in that dinner table conversation. In terms of Law of Conservation of Detail, the film clearly presents that as a "truth".
That is more than reason enough to use the Artistic License – History trope.
Andrew repeating what Fletcher said doesn't necessarily make it true. It's repeated a total of three times, anyway. I'm arguing it's less 'film insists this was absolutely true' and that it's more reflective of the character. That myth has apparently been around for quite a while, anyway.
If you really insist, though, you can remove the articles, because they were much more "mocking" about the fact that the film, in the critics' eyes, seemed to glorify technicality and perfectionism over what jazz really was.
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Hrm, yes, complaining about the film even more is hurting someone's feelings. Never mind it's a chair that was thrown in the flick.
Motivational Lie fits it better, no need to unnecessarily link to critical reactions.
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I am going to post this here to avoid edit wars. There is general misunderstanding about the Artistic License – History trope. It is basically pointing out that a certain thing that the film presents as unchallenged fact, and nobody doubts the Charlie Parker story in the film, is in fact false or outdated history. I did that, and yet fanboys of the film, use false arguments to delete it by thinking its an attack on the film. It is not so by any means. It's simply a statement of fact, no different from any other films which get details about sports, science or other chosen fields wrong. No more, no less.
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