There's a trope that I think is misapplied, Evil Cannot Comprehend Good doesn't apply in the example given under Kreia. I was wondering if I could change that because it implies she cannot read the mind of more than one alien when it was just Bao-Dur and I think the narrative implies its because of her hatred towards his creation of the WMD that destroyed Malachor
Okay, I have commented this out so it's removed from the article for now. You may have a point, but I've never seen that connection despite playing through the game multiple times.
There's definitely SOMETHING to be said about Kreia's inability to read Bao-Dur's mind, but I'm honestly not sure what trope this actually falls under. Hm.
Do you know if there's a trope to describe how Kreia likes to teach and how her approval goes up if you think on what she says?
I've been going through the Mentor Index but nothing there really fits this situation.
Personally, I think we could count it as an In-Universe occurrence of Confirmation Bias since Kreia is mostly looking for approval and agreement, but I dunno...
Hey, I'm the guy that originally added the Evil Cannot Comprehend Good entry a while back. I had listed it under that trope because it was highly evocative of Palpatine's conversation with Vader in Episode 6, when Vader could sense Luke nearby and Palpatine couldn't. It's implied that, either because there is a little good in Vader, or his connection to his son, is what allowed him to do so.
While the Exile isn't related to Bao-Dur, they obviously served together for a significant amount of time during the Mandalorian Wars. This type of connection, of innate trust and loyalty, is something a master manipulator and betrayer such as Kreia could never understand, and is why I listed it under that trope. It isn't a one-for-one match, but I felt it was what applied the most given the circumstances. Obviously it's not necessarily the case if its removal is warranted.
tl;dr: it's less "evil cannot comprehend good" and more "betrayer cannot comprehend undying loyalty".
I think the example as written and as described is a better example of Politically Incorrect Villain, honestly. For Evil Cannot Comprehend Good, there are plenty of examples, mostly shining through in the sort of harsh pragmatism she's trying to teach you— she cannot see the value of altruism and doesn't place any value on loyalty not based on either a threat or some sort of reward, in both cases whether that's something tangible or more abstract, like knowledge— like secrets.
One of the things she says— that she is not a leader, that hers is a voice that goes unheard— that speaks volumes, I think. It's not necessarily good she can't comprehend, at least academically— it's the bonds that the Exile forms so easily, that sense of deep, abiding personal connectedness. Perhaps in a very real way, the reason she's so invested in the Exile is because this is the first time she's ever experienced that depth of connection, one that isn't just transactional and can't be easily put into words. Not to be trite, but love. It would explain her cynicism.
Based on what we see in the game, we don't know enough about her to know if she was always like this, but she certainly doesn't comprehend good now. (The idea that the trope is a quality can be gained over time is interesting to me. Anyway.)
Okay, so I removed a lot of the spoiler tags since they turned basically the entire site into an unreadable All White Entry, and spoilering Trope names is forbidden, anyway. Also, lotsa spoilers were self-fulfilling so we might as well talk about them outright. Definition of Genre Savvy changed, so I cut these examples.
Grouping multiple tropes together is forbidden and clutters the article, so I tried to (emphasis on tried) expand those into singular examples, too.
There was also some Natter, a lot of bad / wrong Example Indentation, Word Cruft, Examples Are Not Arguable and other minor mistakes and typos that I HOPEFULLY mostly got rid of (I probably didn't, there's still stuff to do).
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