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BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001
11th Dec, 2020 10:57:13 AM

Vinichagas has been called here.

Erin582 Since: Oct, 2013
12th Dec, 2020 02:32:02 PM

It's likely because that's more of an example of Author Existence Failure (when someone dies during the production of a program) than of Fatal Method Acting (when someone dies during production due to a stunt or other related mishap). Unless you can connect that the work he did caused him to directly suffer a heart attack, then it wouldn't be an example.

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ShinyCottonCandy (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
12th Dec, 2020 02:55:33 PM

^Fatal Method Acting can encompass deaths during production not caused by the production itself, and in fact has a whole section of the page dedicated to health based examples. So the incident does fit the trivia item.

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TantaMonty Since: Aug, 2017
12th Dec, 2020 06:27:14 PM

One thing to keep in mind is that this example may not be factual. As far as I can tell, information about Magalhães Graça's personal life is extremely scarce, and the only article I could find with details about his death is from a (probably not trustworthy) fandom page. I'll do my best to translate the last sentence:

"In 1989, Magalhães died, at the age of 62, while dubbing an episode of ducktales [sic], possibly from a heart attack, inside the Herbert Richers studio".

Edit: As it turns out, Vinichagas was the one who added that example to the page in the first place. I'm guessing he found out there was something wrong with it.

Edit 2: I failed to notice them at first, but there are comments in the bottom of the fandom page. Two of them claim that the article is all wrong, and Magalhães actually died in 1990 due to a botched surgery. I believe it would be best if the example was not restored right now.

Edited by TantaMonty
Afterword Since: May, 2017
13th Dec, 2020 01:51:41 PM

^^If Fatal Method Acting can include deaths not caused by the production itself, that's a misleading title.

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BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001
13th Dec, 2020 02:09:45 PM

^^ Add it back or not, I still think Vinichagas should be informed that all deletions require a reason. That way, we avoid discussions like this.

Edited by BKelly95
indigoJay Since: Dec, 2018
13th Dec, 2020 05:42:08 PM

If Fatal Method Acting can include deaths not caused by the production itself, that's a misleading title.

The first line of the description for Fatal Method Acting is

A performer dies suddenly while on the job.

The given distinction between Fatal Method Acting and Author Existence Failure is "the creator dies vs a performer dies," and has nothing to do with whether the creator/performer is directly killed by their job. If that's not what the trope is supposed to be about, it needs to be seriously reworked.

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BKelly95 Since: Jan, 2001
13th Dec, 2020 08:45:27 PM

^^ The difference, to my understanding, is this: Fatal Method Acting is when a performer dies during a performance. Author Existence Failure is when a creator dies during the production process and their death affects the production somehow. These two can overlap.

mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
13th Dec, 2020 08:46:22 PM

I added Fatal Method Acting to Tropes Needing TRS.

As for this example, if you can't verify the information, then best to leave it alone.

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