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ElfenLiedFan90 Since: Aug, 2017
23rd Jan, 2019 06:48:49 PM

Pretty unpopular opinion here but I think at best? You could PM the troper to expand the entry or if someone knew the work, they could contribute to expand the entry. If the people who made that didn't respond, I'm all for a cut. That's my two cents

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Primis Since: Nov, 2010
23rd Jan, 2019 07:29:20 PM

Whenever I come across those, I just comment them out.

bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
24th Jan, 2019 01:57:51 PM

The FE Tellius character pages are a mess. Comment them out.

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BZL8 Since: Apr, 2017
24th Jan, 2019 03:11:58 PM

Since the Tellius games have the same characters, should all the characters be merged onto a single Fire Emblem Tellius characters page rather than separate Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn character pages? I know that each FE installment has their own Characters page on this wiki but I think we can make an exception with the Tellius games. If the Erebonia Arc and others have a single character page that includes characters from direct-sequel games, I don't see why we can't do that for Tellius.

(Thracia and Genealogy don't count as the former mainly focuses on a much different cast throughout the entire game).

Edited by BZL8
mrbits Since: May, 2009
25th Jan, 2019 11:11:10 AM

I commented out the Path of Radiance folder, but if I did the same for the Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn Minor Antagonists page we'd be left with only 6 characters, of which only Alder and Septimus have more than 2 tropes to them. Should we just cut the page altogether and add those two to the Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn Major Antagoinsts page, and then change it to just "Radiant Dawn Antagonists"?

Edited by mrbits
Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
25th Jan, 2019 11:42:12 AM

There is nothing inherently wrong with placeholder entries for characters, as long as the examples that are present are written correctly. Ideally, one would hide them from casual view, such as in folders or with comment markup, encouraging users to expand them.

I have occasionally seen issues like the one described above, where people will put a huge amount of effort into diagramming and making subpages for characters without populating them. This is ambitious, but from a best-practices perspective we should only split articles when they actually become too large, not just because they might.

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bwburke94 Since: May, 2014
25th Jan, 2019 12:53:29 PM

The current state of Radiant Dawn info on Path of Radiance character pages can't stay. I'd support merging the Tellius pages for that reason.

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RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
25th Jan, 2019 04:20:31 PM

^ The pages were in fact merged at one time, and considering how some of them are named, they were never fully unmerged. Considering the two games are so closely connected, a rename to "Fire Emblem Tellius - Greil Mercenaries", etc. makes sense.

(See also how the Archanea games have character pages depending solely on game of origin, but for the characters who debuted in FE1, their appearances in FE3 and its remake are also recorded on that page.)

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
25th Jan, 2019 08:49:39 PM

Merging characters pages for a franchise with strong continuity across works is entirely reasonable.

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BZL8 Since: Apr, 2017
27th Jan, 2019 03:59:27 PM

Is the general consensus to reorganize/merge the Tellius characters page? We can bump the Split and Reorganize the Fire Emblem Pages thread on the Short-Term Projects page if so.

RallyBot2 Since: Nov, 2013
28th Jan, 2019 12:34:41 PM

It will barely take any work, so bringing the STP thread back probably isn't required.

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