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Not sure how to address your concerns above.
Edited by BoltDMC
Thank you for the information. Still, since I would rather avoid the Edit War starting again once their suspension is lifted, I shall wait a week and then, depending on what other replies I get, I shall act accordingly (or not act, if that ends up being the most comman advice).
I mentioned this report on their file since they're already suspended for something different (as previously mentioned).
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
For the record, Elio did mention in their EB post that they were fine with the compromise and they just forgot to reply to you.
So I would presume that it would be fine to readd your edit given that information.
@Arctimon Thank you for this information.
First a brief background on the characters involved to give a better understanding of the situation:
Rose Wilson joined the Titans alongside Bart Allen in New Titans. However, she did not stay long on the team, instead becoming the nanny of Roy Harper's daughter in Titans (1999).
A bunch of things happened, she was drugged into serving Deathstroke who forced her to betray the Titans, got freed from his control and then rejoined the Titans during One Year Later, where she didn't have a good relationship with most of her teammates (Bart was not among them) except Kid Devil and later on Blue Beetle. She later quite the team, after some time rejoined for a few days before quitting again (Kid Devil died some time later and has not reappeared in comics since then) until the last incarnation of the team before Flashpoint where she was on good terms with almost everyone, including Bart.
Now the situation:
On July 18th 2023,
I restructured the example "The Friend Nobody Likes" in the folder "Rose Wilson (Ravager)" to make it easier to read. Of course, I did not delete the content, just restructured the text and added to it. Among the text that was already there and which I merely restructured was the line "The only friend she had on the team was Kid Devil / Red Devil (Eddie Bloomberg)" which I restructured into the following sub point: "Defied with Kid Devil / Red Devil (Eddie Bloomberg) who, for a long time, was the only friend she had on the team." (again, the content remained the same).
On Februar, 9th 2024,
the User Elio Herondale replaced "Kid Devil / Red Devil (Eddie Bloomberg)" with "Bart Allen" (without adding an additional point for Kid Devil, I might add) without giving a reason for the change.
On February 20th,
I added some examples to the page. While doing so, I discovered the edit and reverted it citing Roses and Kid Devils explicit friendship compared to the lack of interactions Rose and Bart had until the last incarnation of the Teen Titans as reason. Afterwards, I messaged Elio Herondale (which, in hindsight, I definitely should have done to clear things up before reverting their edit, a mistake I now acknowledge and won't do again) asking why they replaced Kid Devil with Bart. Admittedly, at that moment, I had forgotten that Rose and Bart had met before the last incarnation of the Teen Titans. As such, in their reply the following day, they reminded me of that and then
proceeded to replace Kid Devil with Bart again,
further adding the line "since she first joined the Post-Zero Hour incarnation of New Titans." but again without citing a reason why they excluded Kid Devil.
I then replied in two messages:
In the first on February 21st, I conceded that the two did technically know each longer but counter-argued that they had barely interacted during that time while Eddie and Rose had a genuine, on-panel friendship during her time on the Teen Titans, the time frame the example referred to, asking once more why the replaced Kid Devil with Bart.
In the second message later that day, I proposed a compromise to end the Edit War: I would not touch their changes but merely add the following line "as well as Kid Devil / Red Devil (Eddie Bloomberg) who was her only friend during her time on the Teen Titans in Teen Titans Vol. 3 during and directly following the Time Skip of One Year Later.". This way, I hoped to settle the Edit War with a result both of us should theoretically be able to live with while also still having the entry be factually accurate.
They did not respond to either of my messages since then despite having been online multiple times, as shown by their numerous edits.
Recently, the mod revert
reset the situation back to what it was before their edit.
Please note that my problem with their edit is not so much the addition of Bart Allen (since they've known each other for longer and never had any on-panel bad blood, I guess you could technically see it as somewhat of a friendship despite the lack of interactions reminiscent of a friendship between the two until the last incarnation of the Teen Titans) but rather the exclusion of Kid Devil, whose close friendship to Rose is backed up by both the source material (Teen Titans Vol. 3 #34 - #60, #70 - #71) as well as various sites on the internet, including DC's official wiki DCDatabase
.
Since I've never been involved in an Edit War (and hope I'll never be again), I don't know how to proceed. Therefore, I am now asking you, the community at large, on what to do next:
Should I go through with the change I proposed or add another subpoint containing it on the risk they may just delete it without giving a reason? Or is there another option I do not know about?Or am I the one in the wrong in this Edit War and owe them an apology? I was hoping to handle this situation reasonably, though I do acknowledge that I made a mistake deleting their edit before messaging them. But if any of my other actions were also unreasonable, I welcome any and all constructive criticism.
If requested/required, I can, of course, provide screenshots of the messages.
Thank you for your input and have a great day.
Edited by McMagma