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Deleted the recap page Natter regarding their wonk against the Read parents.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
A second look at their edit history also shows misuse of indentation
and deleting examples without giving a reason why. They resumed their continuous misuse of the Unintentionally Unsympathetic trope only the month after they were sent a notifier by a mod (with an example that was self-admitted misuse, no less).
And nearly a week after I made this query, they're still shoehorning in Unintentionally Unsympathetic examples and using incorrect indentation (on this page, specifically).
Looks they already received two indentation notifiers and those notifiers are the only they have had for that. Their last edit was on the 24th so I'll wait until they edit again.
As for the shoehorning of Unintentionally Unsympaththetic, it doesn't seem like anyone has messaged them about that. I know there's not a trope misuse notifier but I can't expect to know they have been using the trope incorrectly if no one told them that.
Macron's notes
There actually is a trope misuse notifier (albeit it's probably a new one). So I'll send them one for the edit I brought up in my initial post.
Sigh...nothing's changed. They replied to my PM to say they thought their Unintentionally Unsympathetic examples were fine because they're pointing out a character's negative behavior (even though that's not entirely what the trope is supposed to be about). They also added another example around the same time (of the "The audience is supposed to see this character as well-meaning, but some people find it hard to sympathize with them because of this one action" variety).
That Alvin and the Chipmunks one may be an edit war, as I think they added an Unintentionally Unsympathetic example to that page here.
^ I think this is the correct link.
I'm not even sure how true it is. Feels like a personal gripe. I don't remember Dave being "cruel" to the chipmunks, but it's been a while since I've watched the movie. I do remember though that the chipmunks were running around being chaotic and he has a change of heart I think anyway, so I don't think we're even supposed to see Dave as being in the right.
Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
The Bashful Tro has been suspended for edit warring + other issues.
Macron's notes
So should the Chipmunks entry be removed? What about their other examples?
Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught
The examples that are misusednote and/or are nitpicks that were only added in to complain about a certain character can go. Also, if an example is full of Weasel Words (i.e. "some people may find it a bit difficult to sympathize with this character because...) can be removed on sight for being shoehorns. And a character "having a point" or "being sided with in an argument" is not the same thing as being sympathetic.
With all this in mind, I think the majority of their examples can be cut (at least half of them for Weasel Words alone).
The Bashful Tro has a habit of using Unintentionally Unsympathetic far too loosely and wonking about certain characters, in addition to violating the rule about examples being arguable by starting multiple examples off with "arguably", and other such words.
They were reported for this sort of thing over six months ago by another troper
. Despite a mod saying that they sent notifiers back in October
, very little has changed.
Edit history
, and the latest
examples
of such behaviour (which were only a few days ago).