Eclipse Phase

...Do you not realize elephants have a very dextrous prehensile trunk? It's just as good as human hands.

And like I said, there's no reason they can't make them smaller. Never heard of dwarf elephants?

manipulaTORS, Plural, as in more than one :P

But there are plenty of handwavable ways to make it work, if it really bugs you that much just homebrew it.

edited 26th Aug '14 4:41:32 AM by Lanceleoghauni

Anyway, IIRC EP has sorta resurrected raptors. Well, they worked with avian DNA, but at least they look like them.

So could they make Neo-dinosaurs? Maybe even an uplifted T. rex. With mounted laser cannons and an implant that lets them breathe fire.

They can if someone wants to do it as a project. For another example, lobsters are a resurrected species; they went extinct in the Fall, and modern lobsters aren't actually pre-Fall lobsters, they're genehacked prawns.

In canon, there don't appear to be any elephant uplift genomes going around, homebrew as you will.

edited 26th Aug '14 6:16:37 PM by Ramidel

So all the regular lobsters are extinct then as well? Those poor chefs.

I wonder what uplifted lobster taste like?

probably the same as dumb lobster, chewy and gross :p

@joeyjojo and Spooky Mask: The fact that the Jovian Republic is the way it is is partly emergent from setting assumptions; you can't have an Old Economy state without either a state of raw resource poverty or a restricted franchise. Hence the Republic's "Heinlein democracy," where citizenship is restricted to those who have completed military service. Part of the actual point of that is to make sure that Jovian citizens can, by fighting to defend the Republic, show their adherence to its memes. (Then, of course, there's the fact that the government is as corrupt as the Planetary Consortium's.)

That said, the authors are trying to give every faction a fair shake, even if they don't always succeed (Sunward's inability to provide an actual voice speaking for the Consortium is somewhat obscene; I really want someone to come up with a solid presentation of the Consortium viewpoint that isn't sneering elitism at the sheeple). And where the official writers fail, you get the fans working overtime to flesh out their interpretations of factions like the Jovian Republic (thus the Jovian spin to the tagline).

And genefixed lobsters "just don't taste the same," according to old-timers.

if you'd like something merely elephant like the Morph Recognition Guide (and I think Transhuman) Has the Critter podmorph which is customizeable

I had an idea.

First, collect a cutting edge smart cat and smart dog, made for the high-end market. The dog in particular is descended from one of the morally and intellectually superior dog breeds, such as the Golden Retriever.

I think we can assume those would be a little full-featured than the standard.

Next, take a standard lion and genetically tame it while carefully pruning its genome of some the instincts that would be undesirable in transhuman society.

Then hybridize the lion with the smart cat, and gene-hack the result to have a disgustingly endearing temperament.

And then hybridize the cat-lion with the smart dog. And make sure it inherits the improved hygiene of cats instead of dogs (god they stink XD). Then make it so it sheds very little, and throw on the Clean Metabolism hack. And go ahead and splice a nice fruity natural perfume into it, too.

Now for the important part, gene-hack the catdog to neotenize it Up To Eleven, while retaining its intelligence.

So now you've got a highly-intelligent, immortal kitten/puppy hybrid which has been carefully engineered for maximum adorableness, with none of the hassle. Perfect. Just needs a marketable name now. IDK, I'll go with "angelcub".

Now, step two(?). Uplift the angelcub into full transhuman intelligence.

I figure the result would be the neo-angelcubs displacing transhumanity as the dominant species. People could not withstand that sort of invasion.

They'd rule the solar system with a little fuzzy paw.

(Did I take my medicine today? Hmmm...)

edited 28th Aug '14 9:19:09 PM by CassidyTheDevil

What no love for the German Shepherd xD

I don't think Trans Human society would be able to handle to that level of cuteness:3 I think they gonna be a more unstoppable threat to firewall then the exhumans or Titans put together :P

Twist. The ancient secret society, the Illumeownati, orchestrated everything from the beginning.

Hmm, looking at the sourcebooks more closely, it specifically says neo-elephants went extinct during the fall, while baseline elephants are only nearly extinct. That's something.

Really? Odd that the neo elephants would die out while the normal ones didn't. I guess they were just greater numbers of them.

Well, hope that answers your initial question. There is your elephant.

[[Been dickin around online character generator http://eclipsephase.oook.ch/Creator/version4/index.php]]

Couldn't find any thing on Elephants but there's is a home brews build [1]

What does everyone think of the psi powers? I like the inclusion of the more outlandish stuff myself in the otherwise rather dry hard' sci-fi setting. But the Psi powers all seem painfully underpowered

What's the point of being a mind reader where everyone has a neurological implants? It's like Obi-Wan Kenobi appearing to Luke in the end of Star Wars and then having him use the perfectly functional X-Wing targeting computer anyway.

because the psi powers are part of your ego. as long as you have a biomorph to sleeve into you have full access to your powers. even in the lowliest, budget-bucket worker pod. it makes for an immensely powerful stealth element, does it not?

Oh yeah I guess I never thought of it like that lol.

Never couldn't get into the reslevsing mindset.

edited 11th Sep '14 5:51:00 AM by joeyjojo

you have to remember that this is a conspiracy and horror kind of game. There are plenty of options for "Kick down the door, kill the monster, take its stuff" but a more conservative, stealthy, and cautious approach is usually going to be a better option, if only because the TITANS are nothing to fuck around with.

Plus psionics fit well with exurgent virus being basically able to fuck with laws of physics :P

Transhumanity should create Minds like in The Culture. They could beat the TITANS.

Considering creating a superpowerful AI started the problem in the frist place it's firing fire with fire don't cha think?

Can't comment unless you have read the spoiler gm only section

Dude don't be a corebook tease about it?

Sorry, but I feel so tempted to comment on it

Psi isn't especially powerful, and the costs (by which I mean insanity, and the inability to do much with synthmorphs) are a pain. It's generally not worth it to be an async, and if you are, it's because you want some cool tricks and don't mind the drawbacks. Getting yourself some intensive psychotherapy from Firewall or someone else who's trustworthy is also a good idea...just remember that per Transhuman, asyncs who go public get vanished by some secret organization or other, because the writers wanted to reinforce the paranoia theme even in the middle of Titania.