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TweedlyDee BWAAAH! from Kansas Since: Apr, 2010
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#1: Sep 15th 2010 at 6:05:48 PM

I'm seeing a trend in newer media, particularly Western Animation, where writers try to balance out Positive Discrimination by making a girl a Yangire. But there's just one problem; Does being Ax-Crazy ever come back to bite her in the ass? More often than not, no. So answer me this: Is being Ax-Crazy a credible flaw anymore?

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CaellachTigerEye Since: May, 2010
#2: Oct 10th 2010 at 1:03:30 AM

That depends on where you stand, I imagine. Yangire, or just plain Axe-Crazy, is becoming strangely popular these days. The 'dere' groups - Tsundere, Kuudere, Yandere and Dandere - and Yandere's cousin, the Yangire, may in part be becoming more popular because of how Anime became popular in the last two decades or so.

Let me ask you this - how 'credible' is it when animated characters pull crazy stunts like jumping from 10-20 feet high, or land on their backs, and yet they don't even suffer broken bones?

I can only guess that Animation is always allowed a bit more flexibility in 'realism' as opposed to Live Action. Personality traits are no exception either - however, I think the reason such things as 'Yangire' are more common nowadays is because how animation seems to enjoy making people behave in 'extremes'. Does a person REALLY yell in real life the way they do in animation/film/etc. Really, fiction always twists things.

Is making a girl Axe-Crazy credible, though? I'd say no - I'd say it's just them not wanting to give female characters more complexity than their male counterparts. While it's not impossible for people to be somewhat Yangire - more so in animation as well - it reeks of laziness.

No, I wouldn't call it Positive Discrimination, it reeks of Double Standard - men can have jerkiness, ambition, fouls tempers, etc. as character flaws, but women are written as being a little unhinged. Besides lack of variety, it absolutely STINKS of 'oh these poor women, they're so unhinged, good thing they have us men to keep them under control'

Pah! And this is coming from a man!

CaellachTigerEye Since: May, 2010
#3: Oct 10th 2010 at 1:05:38 AM

Oh, and another thing - no, it rarely comes to bite her in the ass. Strangely enough, people seem to think instability is OK to keep around in an animated universe, even if said woman is homicidal.

Again with the Double Standard - while men can grow out of their flaws, woman are secondary at best and KEEP them. And flaws like 'Yangire' are WORSE!

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#4: Oct 11th 2010 at 6:08:22 AM

I think probably the primary issue here is the whole 'badass women must be psychotic' thing.

It's why I enjoy either having the odd sane, well-balanced Action Girl around... or ensuring that the rest of the cast is equally nuts.

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Drakyndra Her with the hat from Somewhere Since: Jan, 2001
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#5: Oct 11th 2010 at 11:29:29 PM

There was an essay I read recently, about the fact a lot of powerful female characters tend to be depowered, not by removal of powers, but by making the unstable: either through inconsistent competence with using them, or emotionally/mentally.

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