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KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#22276: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:19:24 AM

But they are. This is SBR Jojoverse, where people are even more avant-garde than in the original Jojoverse, let alone real life.

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#22277: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:44:25 AM

Okay, then I guess the concept is "what if Part 7's outfits were more accurate to the fashion of our universe", if you want to nitpick.

By the way, I just thought of something great for my Part 5 fighting game idea: Fatalities. Given which part the game's based on, Fatalities would be extremely appropriate. Literally the only antagonists the Golden Wind gang don't murder are Zucchero and Sale, and they torture the former and leave the latter with permanent brain damage. Giorno, in particular, doesn't have a single merciful bone in his body. The only reason he didn't kill Bruno is because Bruno was lucky enough to take an arm from a kid addicted to drugs.

KusaMigeru Interesting Person #928 from Kanda Island Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#22278: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:54:26 AM

Just messing around [lol] I liked Gyro's outfit.

EDIT: Maybe you could go for the "Retire" thing All-Star Battle had? It kinda worked in a similar way.

Edited by KusaMigeru on Aug 19th 2019 at 2:55:16 PM

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#22279: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:15:59 PM

I think Gyro is a little off-base. He was clearly going for a cowboy look.

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#22280: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:48:06 PM

Question: is Jonathan the physically strongest Jo Jo?

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#22281: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:51:41 PM

89 and counting, since it's still ongoing.

(it's a joke about Rai's reaction to the head doctor)

[up]Ignoring stands? Probably.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#22282: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:52:35 PM

I would imagine that was Joseph in his prime. He actually, you know, trained.

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#22283: Aug 19th 2019 at 6:54:14 PM

Yeah but it doesn't seem like Hamon actually does anything to increase your strength. Meanwhile, even before training (and honestly, Joseph BARELY trained with Hamon more than Jonathan did), Jonathan was capable of carrying multiple normal-sized humans pretty easily on his back and lifting fellow-large-boi Dio Brando effortlessly over his head.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#22284: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:03:28 PM

Remember that Joseph's least favorite phrase is "hard work" and his second least favorite phrase is "work hard".

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#22285: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:14:42 PM

Joseph naturally had a lot of Hamon and I think that made him stronger than Jonathan

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#22286: Aug 19th 2019 at 7:15:50 PM

Has that laziness ever come through beyond a reluctance to train?

Edited by fredhot16 on Aug 19th 2019 at 7:17:58 AM

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#22287: Aug 19th 2019 at 9:33:53 PM

Yeah but it doesn't seem like Hamon actually does anything to increase your strength.

It actually does. Once Jonathan inherits Zeppeli's Hamon, he's able to break an iron collar around his neck just by pulling it hard enough that it snaps the bars, which is completely impossible for any normal human.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#22288: Aug 19th 2019 at 10:03:32 PM

Huh so ya know the Requiem OP?

This is the first OP that the Jojo takes back. Think about it, DIO & Kira & look smug & superior but here Diavolo gets fucking played by Giorno who looks like a Goddamn G at the end.

Its very impressive. [tup] [awesome]

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 19th 2019 at 10:03:40 AM

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#22289: Aug 20th 2019 at 1:16:35 AM

OP shenanigans is probably my favorite thing about the Jojo anime. That, and gunshot punches.

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#22290: Aug 20th 2019 at 2:47:59 AM

I'm pretty sure Part 6's OP is going to change twice, like Part 5's, except it's going to change once for Pucci developing C-Moon and a second time for Pucci achieving Made In Heaven. I think the first change is just going to be setting the camera sideways for parts of the OP, while the second change is going to be the OP speeding up while the characters stay the same.

Part 7 is going to have three changes to the OP. The first change will be Valentine using Love Train, the second change will be Johnny usng Tusk Act 4, and the final change will be AU Diego stopping time, in a call-back to Part 3's OP change. I'm guessing the first change is going to be all of the violence towards Funny Valentine is removed, and happens to other people instead and the second change is going to be Johnny using Tusk Act 4 to break through that bullshit, causing Funny Valentine to start spinning infinitely.

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#22291: Aug 20th 2019 at 3:59:23 AM

Again, I wish Jotaro got his own version of End Of The World.

Maybe when DIO is walking past Jotaro who's frozen in time, he looks back smugly only for him to be frozen and Jotaro is the one who looks back.

Then maybe the final clash instead of being Ora VS Muda, it's instead the final attack that killed DIO.

I know it's too late for that but still.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#22292: Aug 20th 2019 at 4:05:26 AM

Huh that would have been cool.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#22293: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:46:01 AM

I would imagine that was Joseph in his prime. He actually, you know, trained.

Wait just a second.

Jonathan trained too. It was spartan and Zeppeli didn't explain much to the audience. But we saw Jonathan, like, lifting boulders and sh-t, and meditating underwater.

And then in the next big fight sequences he's punching with the power of sun through solid rock.

Jonathan used more brute force; brute force wasn't working for Joseph. Joseph's use of Hamon typically failed him when it was just about melting faces. Jonathan's use of Hamon typically succeeded so long as he could make the Hamon actually connect.

Edited by Soble on Aug 20th 2019 at 7:51:57 AM

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#22294: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:50:38 AM

Would Jonathan have manifested The World as his stand, or something else?

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#22295: Aug 20th 2019 at 7:54:13 AM

I think semi-canon material states that Jonathan's Stand is the Hermit Purple-like Stand DIO used at the start of Part 3, and it's called The Passion.

This:

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Aug 20th 2019 at 8:00:55 AM

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#22296: Aug 20th 2019 at 8:16:32 AM

Nope, as Diego showed use The World is DIO stand, from himself, while Jonathan stand is Hermit Purple 2/The Passion

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#22297: Aug 20th 2019 at 9:05:19 AM

Meti has a pretty cool vid on that

Also, the "fuck you kira" factor of great days's last version is understated. The opening returning back to normal while kira keeps his bite the dust hair isn't as epic as Giorno's reqiuem, but it still counts, especially with the opening once again ending on Josuke reconstructing the Jo Jo heart with crazy diamond in defiance of everything kira did.

Edited by Yumil on Aug 20th 2019 at 6:05:41 PM

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#22298: Aug 20th 2019 at 10:35:07 AM

Speaking of Jojotubers, here's a fun breakdown of the "Who shot Johnny Joestar" arc from Part 7, Steel Ball Run:

Basically, this arc makes no goddamn sense, even after you find out what D4C does. If you actually try and map out what happened when, what happened where, what happened to whom, and what happened in which universe, the arc still makes no goddamn sense. D4C's ability is retconned to be different and weaker shortly after the arc, but even if you use the original explanation of what it's ability is, the arc STILL makes no goddamn sense. Johnny even gives his own explanation and interpretation of the events, and HIS version makes no goddamn sense. This is one time where the anime ABSOLUTELY should re-write the arc a little to make all of the events within comprehensible.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#22299: Aug 20th 2019 at 1:27:15 PM

I disagree on that last point. Part of what makes the anime such a great adaptation is that it celebrates the moments when the series makes no sense whatsoever.

And while that arc is certainly an example of one that makes no sense whatsoever, it doesn't make sense in such a blatant and over-the-top way that it can't help but be glorious.

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#22300: Aug 20th 2019 at 1:42:56 PM

TBH jojo wouldn't be half as much fun if it all did make sense. Nothing is quite a peak-jojo as Jotaro and Dio trying to out-asspull each other


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