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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#26251: Nov 30th 2021 at 10:04:35 PM

DIO is named after God.

Coincidence, I think not!

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#26252: Nov 30th 2021 at 10:07:41 PM

Araki picked the name at first because it sounded cool.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#26253: Nov 30th 2021 at 10:19:27 PM

Given he's a Satanic Archetype it's ironic. That said while I like to joke(?) Dio and Diavolo are the spawn of Satan I do wonder if there's a legit version of God and Satan in this 'verse. The closest thing to God in this series is fate, and that's more akin to the Force

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#26254: Nov 30th 2021 at 10:20:26 PM

I'm still a little surprised DIO didn't try to cut off his head when Star Platinum shattered his weak leg. Even then, if Hamon blood is what's keeping him from using his freezing-on-contact ability, what's stopping him from using his Space Ripper Stingy Eyes to one-shot Jotaro if he needed to decapitate himself again?

Edited by RWBYraikou888 on Nov 30th 2021 at 1:22:15 PM

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#26255: Nov 30th 2021 at 10:23:57 PM

Given the synchronization effect, even cutting off his own head wouldn't have helped that time. Star Platinum effectively shattered DIO's soul when he destroyed The World.

And the eye attack wouldn't have been faster than Star Platinum anyway even if Jotaro couldn't activate another Time Stop so quickly again.

Besides, DIO was in a state of utter panic and shocked disbelief over his impending doom. He probably wouldn't have been able to think clearly even if his brain wasn't in the middle of exploding too.

It doesn't help that his body was being destroyed at a much faster rate than his original body was.

Edited by M84 on Dec 1st 2021 at 2:29:00 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#26256: Nov 30th 2021 at 10:31:31 PM

DIO's weird to me. I'm like the Abbacchio to his Giorno. I don't like him whatsoever, and yet at the same time, I tend to overestimate his abilities.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
Shad0wSmoke Since: Nov, 2013
#26257: Nov 30th 2021 at 11:06:45 PM

The light novel of Dio's Diary is hilarious when you put it together with what he's actually like in the manga/show. In the diary he's this introspective and contemplative man with flowery prose waxing philosophy about the universe while he's this overly hammy cartoonishly evil villain outside of it. What's especially funny is that he writes one final entry while Nukesaku was keeping the crusaders busy with the same prose as the rest of the diary but this is right after he was trolling Polnareff with the stair trick and screaming muda muda muda.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#26258: Nov 30th 2021 at 11:09:19 PM

He's basically someone who is introspective and philosophical in private but likes being a total jackass troll when dealing with people he doesn't respect.

Which is most people.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Shad0wSmoke Since: Nov, 2013
fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#26260: Dec 1st 2021 at 3:33:25 AM

I don't know who needs to hear this but 12 episodes of the Stone Ocean anime have dropped on Netflix. Yesss.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#26261: Dec 1st 2021 at 5:06:17 AM

He's introspective and philosophical in the feel part 1 moments we get inside his, and his speeches to Enya and Polnareff about peace of mind. And that's not even getting at the things he says to Pucci.

And him being inactive in part 3 is a thing I can only call a good move from the Watsonian perspective. Dio has no personal investment in that conflict. The Crusaders need Dio dead. Dio needs himself alive and, while doesn't necessarily need to, would benefit from the Joestars dead (blood to improve his synchro with Jonathan's body). Going out there is a risk far above the return.

Anyways, the main thing that makes Dio simple to understand is that every Jojo villain has the same motive. Everyone links directly to Dio's "peace of mind" to staircase Polnareff.

  • Dio 1 feared his poor, powerless life would go on forever and sought fortune (and later power beyond humanity) for peace of mind.
  • Kars feared the sun and sought to conquer his weaknesses for peace of mind.
  • Dio 3 feared the Joestar party after his neck and wanted them dead for peace of mind.
  • Kira feared being removed from his routine and erased all his tracks for peace of mind.
  • Diavolo feared being seen and sought the power to remain always emperor in the shadows for peace of mind.
  • Pucci feared the weight of his and Domenico's sins and sought a rewrite of fate for peace of mind.
  • Valentine feared all harm that could come to America and sought to fling that at every other country for peace of mind.
  • Tooru feared losing his monopoly over the Locacaca and sought to secure the graft and market to the elite for his group's financial peace of mind.

Even Jojolion's arguable fake-out villain, Jobin, followed Araki's usual pattern, with him fearing the curse and wanting to protect his family's peace of mind. Jojo is amazingly consistent with Central Theme of courage, with every villain being a very unique flavor of coward motivated by cowardice to contrast with the brave Jojo taking fate's challenges head-on.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#26262: Dec 1st 2021 at 5:21:02 AM

The cowardice is even more obvious in parts that have subordinate villains who are braver than their bosses.

Part 2 for example has Wamuu and even Esidisi. Tellingly, Joseph expresses respect for them in their last moments. By contrast he had nothing but contempt for Kars and trolled him right before he was launched into space.

Disgusted, but not surprised
RinneSharinganCatalyst 小柏 カイ from the ricefields Since: Oct, 2020 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
小柏 カイ
#26263: Dec 1st 2021 at 9:21:20 AM

I realized it's probably gonna take eight-ish years for all the Jojo manga (barring Jojolands) to come out in the States.

Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#26264: Dec 1st 2021 at 10:55:24 AM

Four episodes in to this first batch of twelve. Really good thus far.

Also, getting a real "Those that Don't Know vs. Those that Do Know" in regards to the imagery of the ED.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
Touch The Sky
#26265: Dec 1st 2021 at 12:09:39 PM

OMG why did they cheek up Jongalli so much in the shower scene I was laughing.

I forget how strong Stone Ocean starts off. Minus the copyright names, the dub is really good so far too. Guess' VA nailed her perfectly.

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#26266: Dec 1st 2021 at 1:02:30 PM

You know, getting Ricepirate to voice Abbacchio was already one foot forward, but now that they've cast YongYea as Pucci... maybe my wish of having Pro ZD voice Donatello Versus might be possible!

Edited by RWBYraikou888 on Dec 1st 2021 at 4:02:48 AM

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#26267: Dec 1st 2021 at 1:55:32 PM

Also between the two - I'd say Giorno's first opening is still king, but Jolyne's is alright. Its got way more personality, but I like the singing in Fighting Gold more.

That said, Jolyne's has better animation, and I don't say that lightly.

how bad of a parent do you need to be to let your child takeover the mafia in a week

i cant be the only one who thinks the snippet of animation with the chains from 0:53 to 0:55 is the best part of the whole animation right? its so smooth and fluid and its really well done, best part of the actual song is definitely the scream part at 1:05, something about the emotion put into that one line is so so nice

Using this opening you can predict the deaths of this part. For Giorno, Mista and Trish they stand between the chains meaning they are between their fates and haven't reached the end of it.

For Abbacchio, Bucciarati and Narancia the chains cross over them.

Abbacchio stands in a hourglass with chains flowing out symbolising his fate is running out.

Bucciarati continues to walk and stand in defiance as the chains(his fate) try to stop him.

Narancia's face continues to grow darker when ever a chain washes over him symbolising that his fate like, Abbacchio's is running out.

i wonder whats they are going to do for Made in Heaven

I wouldn’t be suprised if it speeds through the opening, and then proceeds to speed through all the other openings from previous parts until it gets right back to where it was

This is by far visually and thematically the best Jo Jo OP. First of all they took the idea of "Jo Jo has no defined colors" to a whole 'nother level. Secondly, in PB to SC, there was that rather "dark" feeling, very manly and dangerous. This here is girlish. Its sung by a girl because it's the first female Jo Jo main character. But it's a rebel one. A feminine, yet radical and violent girl, just like Jolyne. It also told us something else: The anime is already nine years old. It's old enough to reference itself. The Stand Proud reference proves my point.

Part 4 and 5 were things of their own and thus their openings also were, this is why they were animated. But Stone Ocean, as I said, is the return to the original plotline and its End, this is probably why it's in CGI, because of how linked to the parts with a CGI opening it is.

It's like a callback to all the part 1-5 O Ps - the 3D storyboarding of Sono Chi no Sadame, the vibrance of Bloody Stream, the background and positions of Jotaro/Dio in End of the World, the upbeatness of the DIU ops, and the sakuga of Fighting Gold.

Edited by FOFD on Dec 1st 2021 at 5:18:09 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#26268: Dec 1st 2021 at 1:59:32 PM

Yet we never got the "STOP POSTING ABOUT AMONG US" guy as Ghiaccio

FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#26269: Dec 1st 2021 at 2:16:59 PM

Also-also, since I can finally do this:

     

SUNLIGHT YELLOW OVERDRIVE

HERE ARE THE VERY NEXT WORDS THAT WILL COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH

ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAOROAROAROAROAORAOROA

WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT MY HAIR? GET OUT HERE YA PUNK BITCH!

GOLDEN - WIND!

ORAROROAROAORAORAOROAORAORA! ORA!

This is pretty much the end of the Joestar-Brando saga, and I am sad about that.

Edited by FOFD on Dec 1st 2021 at 5:22:08 AM

Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#26270: Dec 1st 2021 at 3:07:20 PM

Does anyone else think that Atroe's bully looks like if Squalo and Tiziano had a child?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/e2687439_7e2a_46ba_ab87_146b19bb07a4.jpeg

Edited by RWBYraikou888 on Dec 1st 2021 at 6:10:27 AM

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
KhunRun Manga Brainrot 🦋 Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
Manga Brainrot 🦋
#26271: Dec 1st 2021 at 3:34:20 PM

Damn these episodes are great... absolutely fallen in love with Jolyne thus far and finished the first batch of episodes. Can't wait until Jan for the new ones

she/her
RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#26272: Dec 1st 2021 at 4:41:01 PM

After what they did for Giorno, there's no way David Production isn't gonna adapt this from Chapter 101, right?

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/6f6bb6b4_26f3_475a_b01e_188197eff8ec.png

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#26273: Dec 1st 2021 at 7:07:11 PM

I just now realized how thematically fitting the ending of Stone Ocean is. Because at the end ultimately its a battle between the will of DIO vs the will of Joestar.

Jotaro manages to kill DIO in retribution for the murder of Jonathan and eventually a subordinate of DIO rises up to successfully avenge him who in return is finally killed by a subordinate of Joestar.

Its incredibly fitting since by the point of the ending there is nothing left, its the end of the universe with both DIO and Jojo dead leaving only Pucci and Emporio, followers of each individuals respective will. So in an ultimate battle that goes back centuries for literally the fate of the entire universe, will be decided be by whose will and influence is ultimately stronger.

Even more fitting that Emporio's victory was ultimately a team-effort as he survived through the assistance of all of Team Jojo and used Weather Reports Stand to finish off Pucci. This signifies the ultimate defeat of DIO in both body and soul, as he was physically defeated by Jojo and his legacy was thwarted by a spirit that transcends bloodlines.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#26274: Dec 1st 2021 at 7:18:08 PM

One thing I've realized about Part 6 is how the characters weaponized the spiritual concepts established in previous parts.

"Stand users are drawn to each other." Whitesnake's plan boils down to creating Stand users randomly and just letting this rule bring them into conflict with each other.

"Stand users can sense other Stand users they're related to." When Pucci fuses with the Green Baby, he gains the Joestar birthmark from Jonathan's bone, which is what allows Jolyne to chase him across Florida.

RWBYraikou888 The Undercover Troper from The Kingdom of Atlas Since: Aug, 2020 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
The Undercover Troper
#26275: Dec 1st 2021 at 8:51:56 PM

I'm already two episodes in, and instant highlight for me? ...Gwess singing Dolly Parton's "Jolene". It's freaking perfect.

Orcus on His Throne will always be my pet peeve.

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