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AzurePaladin The Blue Knight from The Feywild Relationship Status: Mu
The Blue Knight
Apr 14th 2019 at 2:26:02 PM

Well, a lot of people wanted to see Xehanort meet a worse end. I think that just may count.

Edit: This wasn't supposed to be a pagetopper. Then again, when were they ever? 3/10

Edited by AzurePaladin on Apr 14th 2019 at 5:26:42 AM

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SapphireBlue Relates to this character on a spiritual level from California Relationship Status: In another castle
Relates to this character on a spiritual level
Apr 14th 2019 at 2:27:28 PM

Assuming he didnít just re-absorb all the planted fragments of himself in the last battle, even the extras.

Demyx not bothering to recomplete because it sounds painful and inconvenient? That I can see.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Apr 14th 2019 at 2:28:04 AM

Gilphon Trustworthy from The Third Sound Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Trustworthy
Apr 14th 2019 at 2:53:58 PM

The reason I like it as a karmic end for Xehanort is that it's 100% self-inflicted. He chose to rip out Demyx's heart and infect him with a copy of himself, knowing that it was in all likelihood an entirely pointless act of cruelty. And then he chose to treat Demyx like garbage and make an active effort to exclude him from the final line-up, which directly lead to no one ever having a reason to fight him.

And, well, being part of Demyx wouldn't actually be a hell if you respected and/or liked Demyx, but if Xehanort did that, he probably wouldn't have done either of the first two things I mentioned.

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
MarkIV Alchemist from Lancashire best shire Relationship Status: Not war
Alchemist
lycropath Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Apr 14th 2019 at 3:21:22 PM

That animation where Kairi takes off and spins is hilarious.

But seriously stop wanking Riku and give those two their game.

Edited by lycropath on Apr 14th 2019 at 3:22:30 AM

alekos23 Spook from Spook
Spook
Apr 14th 2019 at 3:47:13 PM

Kairi can run backwards?

Spoooooook
Ultimatum ◕ ◡ ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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Apr 14th 2019 at 3:52:31 PM

Personally I think it's time Axel wore something other then the black coat

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AzurePaladin The Blue Knight from The Feywild Relationship Status: Mu
The Blue Knight
Apr 14th 2019 at 5:08:53 PM

My first thought on seeing that was "Wow, Kairi's channeling Darth Sideous with that spin".

Seriously though, they're allowed to be competent - as long as its offscreen. Safe from having to actually develop them any as characters all game.

She/Her Pronouns
Apr 14th 2019 at 5:15:53 PM

They're only allowed to be competent as long as they don't know Sora's watching. Hence why he needs to hide with a camera in a dark corner in order to witness their competence.

deludedmusings Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Apr 14th 2019 at 5:24:15 PM

Performance anxiety is a slow and insidious killer.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Apr 14th 2019 at 7:12:33 PM

Man, that actually looks cool as hell.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Apr 14th 2019 at 7:30:16 PM

yeah kairi needs to look cool in front of sora and axel needs to look cool in case roxas is watching inside of sora. so they got so self conscious they forgot how to fight.

agent-trunks from Every-where, but there
Apr 14th 2019 at 9:16:59 PM

Wait, why are you all surprise this?

This was always in the game. At least as far as I know.

I thought everyone complaining about Axel's & Kairi's incompetency because of that scene on top of what was building up from them getting Keyblades

Apr 15th 2019 at 4:57:17 AM

It's more that if you're actually engaging in the battle, you're not likely to notice much of what Axel and Kairi are doing.

alekos23 Spook from Spook
Spook
Apr 15th 2019 at 5:12:47 AM

mostly because Saix's being a jerk

Spoooooook
AzurePaladin The Blue Knight from The Feywild Relationship Status: Mu
The Blue Knight
Apr 15th 2019 at 7:16:53 AM

Actually, from the loop there, it seems that its what they're doing as you're running down the corridor to get to them.

Once you get into battle, they're...okay, I guess? Not as strong as Roxas and Xion, but that was to be expected.

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HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Apr 15th 2019 at 7:24:03 AM

I'm surprised Axel was having so much trouble.

True, he's a new Keyblade master, but he's not exactly an amateur at combat.

Kairi...well, Kairi took way too long to get into fighting.

It'd be great if the series was willing to give her her own adventure so she could level up, but that would require caring about her as more than a Macguffin to be saved or a damsel to be rescued, and has been pointed out before, she's clearly an afterthought to everyone involved in the series.

How did people in Japan feel about her lack of a role...or about her in general?

Once again, wokka wokka!
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:14:44 AM

Yeah, you know when you're running through the maze and you see them fighting in the distance? That's what they're doing.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Always watching, never seen
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:48:29 AM

I'm not surprised. Axel's wielding an unfamiliar weapon. He doesn't do swords. He's got a decade or so of "combat experience" but that experience is in using those dual fire-wheels of his. Which he was training in even as a kid, as shown in BBS. It's his style.

With a sword-like weapon? Axel's a rank amateur. Sure, he's got some solid reflexive muscle memory from a decade of experience but that muscle memory is actually a disadvantage when learning a new weapon. Kairi's actually in a better position for learning to wield a Keyblade! She gets to learn how to swordfight from scratch; Axel has to unlearn all the moves and responses his body's been trained to do pretty much all his life.

It's hard to change martial arts later in life after you're already proficient in one.

EDIT: In a hypothetical world where we somehow do get a Kairi-centric spinoff, I would love for Axel to be one of her supporting teammates. Axel and Kairi have a strange relationship that warrants exploring. Between Xion, Namine, and Kairi herself, Axel's spent a significant portion of his life since Sora showed up hanging out with various Kairis.

  • Axel: Hey, I got you some strawberries while I was out.
  • Kairi: Oh! I love strawberries!
  • Axel: I know! They were always Xion's favorite and... uh....
  • Kairi: ...Xion was the one who was my clone, not my Nobody, right?
  • Axel: I made this awkward.
  • Kairi: Thanks for the strawberries, Axel.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Apr 15th 2019 at 11:54:39 AM

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Ultimatum ◕ ◡ ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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Apr 15th 2019 at 10:54:41 AM

a Xion and roxas spin off is more likly then Axel and Kari to be honest

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lycropath Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:57:57 AM

Now watch Subject X be Ava who winds up looking like Kairi under her hood.

TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Always watching, never seen
Apr 15th 2019 at 10:59:06 AM

Roxas and Xion already had a spinoff. I want Kairi!

OH!

Her inevitable set of Keychains for each of the different Disney Worlds she visits could have special attacks calling on the other Princesses of Heart! Like, her super attack for Three Wishes summons Jasmine to fight with her, and her super attack for Lady Luck calls a giant Alice to step on the enemy, etc. etc.

The greatest trick prejudice ever pulled was to convince the world it did not exist.
Ultimatum ◕ ◡ ◕ Disasturbator from England Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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Apr 15th 2019 at 10:59:45 AM

> Roxas and Xion already had a spinoff.

They need another where it's just eating sea salt ice cream

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 15th 2019 at 6:11:05 PM

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HandsomeRob Return of the Gangsta Bear! from Moopet Theatre Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Return of the Gangsta Bear!
Apr 15th 2019 at 11:01:30 AM

I'm not surprised. Kairi just seems to be one of those characters where her pre-defined role beats down anything else that could be done with her, even when it doesn't necessarily contradict anything.

Given the chance to have her get kidnapped, or let her be awesome, kidnapping will always win. If she does do something cool, it will be entirely offscreen where you can't see it, while the kidnapping will be right in your face.

Xion isn't bound to that (she was playable in Days wasn't she? I'm not totally clear on that) for some reason. Not that I want her too, but Kairi just seems to have different standards from the other females.

Once again, wokka wokka!
TobiasDrake Always watching, never seen from Colorado, USA Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Always watching, never seen
Apr 15th 2019 at 11:12:33 AM

It's because Kairi is the waifu. None of the other female characters are Sora's waifu.

Consequentially, everything she does is written with a mind to preserving her precious, precious waifu status.

It's kind of like how a lot of movies will let Michelle Rodriguez be this uber-buff badass - because she's not the love interest, doesn't need to spend every moment of screentime being an adorable waifu, will not be married off to the hero at the end, and in fact will probably die at some point.

The greatest trick prejudice ever pulled was to convince the world it did not exist.

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