Unofficial Official Mega Man Thread

Granted, X is more a distant ancestor, is not like he literaly build them, so aside of some fan of him, X is a reploid, more like harry potter than Adam.

And walrus is a thug, in fact he is the least sympathic of reploid and just there for violence.

not surprising he is the easier to beat, hell you can do it without fire weapon with both X and Zero.

According to the wiki, Cain wasnt even an expert in robotics. He just did what he could with Light's ultra advanced designs.

Wonder where the actual robotics experts were.

How about in 100 years A.I hasn't advanced beyond the Robot Masters we see(and Dr Light/Wily aren't the only creators of them, Dr Cossack and over companies are behind some robot masters) until X was discovered.

And that’s the mystery of how Classic and X can be one timeline. There’s a lot of connective tissue missing

About Cain it’s kind of weird that he was able to copy X’s brain to make reploids without understanding it. If any part of X would be a black box technology you’d think it would be the single most important advance he represented, the leap into truly reasoning and self determining artificial intelligence let’s just ignore all the times Classic robots seemed to be that

The armor and weapons and other body hardware is advanced but should be easier to understand than his brain

So it’s so weird to me that Cain was able to copy his brain, even imperfectly, to the extent he could make a bunch of reploids who not only had the same reasoning ability as X but completely different personalities

But then Gate comes along and goes “Yup and nobody could analyze the rest of X”

You all do realize you're pocking apart the narrative of a game made for little kids released during a time such games had at best a little blurb at the start and at the end, right?

I think it’s fair game

Capcom made the story a selling point

It may be capcom writing, but it's still a story.

I guess, Light wanted X's brain to be analyzable, but not his SUPER ADVANCED AND DEADLY WEAPONS SYSTEM.

X was meant to be Light's final gift to the world so it makes sense that Light made his free will easily to replicate, but not the rest of his systems.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 27th 2020 at 7:18:59 AM

I always felt that Protoman embraced his mortality, as it was a part of living, of the human condition, and Blues accepted that one day he would just lose power and never be reactivated.

And i guess every Reploid in the ZX era did too.

I mean if they wanted the story to be a selling point they sure did half ass it till the end

I'm pretty sure the Sage Trinity forced mortality on them while keeping themselves immortal.

Mortality was basically used by Albert to enslave Prometheus and Pandora.

I think their days are numbered more shortly than most reploids who can probably live a good hundred plus years

Well as the series approached the 21st century, the series did become more story focused.

Even if some of them missed the mark.

Like X8 going full on cheap JRPG on us, and going wacky with symbolism and bullshit monologues about life and morality.

I'd like to think humans now could live a LOT longer than before. I mean Ciel may or may not be alive by ZX.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 27th 2020 at 7:56:12 AM

I'd actually argue that X8 probably has the best story because it at least tries to have some interesting themes and motifs even if they aren't well explored. Also the voice acting was finally good.

Well that and Maverick Hunter x.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Feb 27th 2020 at 11:57:39 AM

X8 has good presentation, but the plot is utterly nonsensical. Okay, so the new gen reploids have the copy chip ability, but WHY? What is the point of building an entire race with the ability to commit identity fraud? Right when the planet is recovering from wars, someone could rob a bank, impersonate politicians to cause chaos ETC.

And why give them SIGMA"S DNA? OF ALL REPLOIDS, YOU CHOOSE HIM?!!! The dude who committed various war crimes and mass murders? And one extinction level event? And not the two robots who kick his ass repeatedly? And are vastly more heroic and sane?

Not to mention, the constant " Oh the new reploids can't go maverick, but are going maverick anyway, whoops." The themes of evolution and such fall flat.

But at least this game had a fun cast for the heroes, and even made Axl cool.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 27th 2020 at 8:09:58 AM

The simplest explanation for X8 was that there was a mole on the Next Generation Reploid project, but I fully admit that’s only my headcanon patch.

All of them have Sigma's DNA for whatever reason, so maybe ALL OF THEM are the mole?

If we ever get into Xdive or a hypothetical X9, think they will remember Sigma's dead?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 27th 2020 at 8:09:48 AM

I agree that x8s plot is kinda nonsense when you stop to think about it and I wouldn't call it a good story, but the thing is, are the other x stories really any better? IMO they aren't. They are either simplistic, uninteresting or badly translated/acted.

And X8 does win out in presentation, the cast is great actually, like most of them get character moments. So there's that.

Also gotta love how NO ONE EXPECTED Sigma to be behind it all.

Thinking about it, man, what happened to the writers that most villains in Mega Man post x5 are obsessed with evolution?

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 27th 2020 at 8:14:14 AM

If you consider MHX to be post-X5 then Sigma is also obsessed with evolution too.

But Red is just a simple ex-military crime boss.

Edited by RAlexa21th on Feb 27th 2020 at 8:29:12 AM

Yeah, but Red's just a fake out villain anyway. Sigma really wanted to make X and Zero his.

I don't think there's a lot to gain by pointing out that platformers from the 90's don't have fleshed out stories. We all know that. I think it's fine to talk about the interesting aspects and the possibility spaces that went unexplored but intrigue us anyway without constantly bringing up how the stories aren't great by today's standards and how the creators obviously didn't make them the highest priority.

If you think about it just having Sigma’s, ugh, DNA shouldn’t mean anything

If it’s original Sigma, which it seems to be because of jedi, Sigma wasn’t a Maverick from the beginning. His DNA shouldn’t be a shortcut to go maverick

And the explanation that Sigma’s body is the most hardy and powerful available was true. Circa X 1.

Even by the end of X 1 Sigma got a new body. And each new Sigma body was more powerful than the one before (except zombie Sigma) because otherwise what’s the point?

If the idea was that Sigma has the most powerful body than they should have used bristling with guns Sigma from 7 and then the maverick thing might make sense because that Sigma has been a maverick for a very long time

But that wouldn’t be Reference

And the maverick thing doesn’t make sense anyway because any reploid can choose to go maverick. All they have to do is not do their job right or punch a human. And if the idea is that the new generation can turn off their consciences at a whim then that’s not conveyed well and doesn’t really match what’s going on

The X series barely knows what maverick means anymore

Being able to go Maverick at will doesn't really make sense to me as a plot point. It's like saying someone can go mad at will, or saying that someone can rebel at will which is self-evident.

Also I think the idea is that sigma's DNA has been irreveraably "corrupted", it being his original body they transform into doesn't matter.

Though I don't really think they thought this through anyway. What does it mean for a robot to have DNA exactly? That's been a thing since I think at least x6 but it's not very well explained.

In general I agree, though in the case of the x series I wouldn't even say the story wasn't a priority, it just wasn't handled all that well. If your point is more about general negativity then fair enough.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Feb 27th 2020 at 1:22:44 PM