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FGHIK from right behind you Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#38926: Aug 16th 2019 at 4:15:12 PM

If the military wasn't being run by an incompetent Glory Hound than the smartest thing the NCR could've done was get some of those vertibirds of theirs and carpet bomb the shit out of the legion.

That's a good point. As far as I know, the Legion has nothing like anti-aircraft weapons or aircraft of their own. That said, the NCR presumably doesn't have a ton of Vertibirds, and they likely don't have an exceptional flight range. But yeah, even a single Vertibird with a minigun would be a game changer in any battle against the Legion.

There's no way for the Legion to win any long term conflict with the NCR. Hell there's no way for anyone to stop the NCR's expansion in the long term.

I don't think the Legion has a realistic chance of it, but there's still room for more serious competitors in the Fallout USA. Other post-war nations could definitely crop-up, especially in areas we don't know much about. Though any rational nation wouldn't go to war without good reason.

Edited by FGHIK on Aug 16th 2019 at 6:20:48 AM

I missed the part where that's my problem.
GNinja The Element of Hyperbole. from The deepest, darkest corner of his mind. Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
The Element of Hyperbole.
#38927: Aug 16th 2019 at 4:16:39 PM

To me, replaying the game after all these years, the game doesn't really get going until you meet Caesar. The whole talk you have with Caesar is one of my favourites in game history. The whole feel of his camp is excellent.

My problem with New Vegas is kind of unavoidable in this kind of RPG that puts such a big emphasis on player choice. I never liked how powerless the other factions are against you. The best gambit any of these people can muster is hoping you choose to side with them, and your existence single-handedly lets them win. The situation is contrived such that the player can do whatever they want and the factions all need you.

House is the worst for this. House is portrayed as this ultra intelligent chessmaster who rattles off probabilities and odds and predicts the movements of the other characters with stunning accuracy, but he's basically impotent and can't do a damn thing without you willingly helping him. In none of his countless backup plans did he account for you lying to him.

And the cunning Caesar sends YOU down into the bunker to destroy all the stuff inside, and just takes your word for it that the loud sound he heard was the base exploding and not, like, a factory booting up. When he could've sent one of his many frumentarii to do it, a group specifically trained to interact with other societies without becoming corrupted.

Edited by GNinja on Aug 16th 2019 at 11:18:57 AM

Kaze ni Nare!
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38928: Aug 16th 2019 at 5:00:09 PM

and I'm surprised they wouldn't shill him as intelligent and articulate.

That's because the Legion is building up Lanius as The Dreaded to everyone. Like Darth Vader.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Protagonist506 from Oregon Since: Dec, 2013 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#38929: Aug 16th 2019 at 5:00:10 PM

I would say Caesar is where the game's really bending over backwards for the player. You can play a female scientist or sniper character and Caesar still wants to hire you. This comes across as incredibly implausible. Though, to be fair, this is something of a Necessary Weasel-they don't want to cut off huge chunks of content just because of the PC's gender. And also to be fair, playstyle things the legion would want simply can't be tracked by the game.

I'd actually argue it's why you should tend to avoid having bigots as a major faction in games like this, if the player is allowed to be part of the targeted category. I can buy Boomerang Bigots existing, but I can't buy a group of extremely severe card-carrying bigots to want one of their primary agents to be a member of the group they openly and proudly despise.

[up]Him having a degree of intelligence and eloquence makes him slightly scarier in my opinion. Though I will say that them just not getting around to saying that makes sense.

Edited by Protagonist506 on Aug 16th 2019 at 5:03:16 AM

"Any campaign world where an orc samurai can leap off a landcruiser to fight a herd of Bulbasaurs will always have my vote of confidence"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38930: Aug 16th 2019 at 5:02:16 PM

[up]In one way. But in other ways, the idea that the Legion has some kind of insanely strong and vicious human attack dog on their side is even scarier.

It makes the Legion seem like something not entirely human.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#38931: Aug 16th 2019 at 5:29:52 PM

Lanius is clearly a superhuman and could kill almost anything in NV, including people in power armor with guns. He's just a lot more...mindful than the stories about him beating his own men to death would lead you to believe.

As for why the Legion would employ a female Courier, it's because Caesar doesn't give a shit. By the time you meet him, as he himself notes, he has come to greatly admire the tenacity and skill you've displayed by getting to Vegas. He'd be the biggest fool to turn away such a useful pawn. That's all ANYONE is to him. Other women serve his needs best as baby factories, the Courier serves his needs best by going out and killing fools.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38932: Aug 16th 2019 at 5:33:58 PM

Lanius by contrast is all in on the misogyny. He even threatens to rape a female Courier if you challenge him as one, depending on your Karma.

Lanius: Woman of the West... you will learn your place - in my tent, and again, when you beg for release on the edge of my blade.

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Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#38933: Aug 16th 2019 at 6:57:04 PM

I think Lanius as a crazed beast with no reason is more supposed to terrify the Legion itself than outsiders. The idea is that he's an unhinged lunatic who demands success of his subordinates and will kill you for failure before you can even try to offer an excuse. He's supposed to be more terrifying than any enemy Caesar might send you to fight.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38934: Aug 16th 2019 at 7:03:05 PM

So he is basically a Commissar mixed with Kharn the Betrayer.

Edited by M84 on Aug 16th 2019 at 10:04:55 PM

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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#38935: Aug 16th 2019 at 7:13:58 PM

His approved of live action short show him as a mountain of a man compared to his tribe. Lanius is a unit.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#38936: Aug 16th 2019 at 7:21:35 PM

[up]How many pylons do you need to make a Lanius?

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deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#38937: Aug 16th 2019 at 7:27:53 PM

Doesn't matter how many you have, you require more pylons.

Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#38938: Aug 16th 2019 at 7:56:34 PM

So he is basically a Commissar mixed with Khârn the Betrayer.

Basically. And as you may recall, one of the disciplinary actions at an Imperial Commissar's disposal is decimation, which is the first thing Lanius did after Graham was "relieved of duty"

blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#38939: Sep 11th 2019 at 12:59:32 PM

I'm currently dealing with a 33% CTD upon walking through any door. Any way to deal with this? Any mods that fix this?

This isn't some ancient laptop either, this is a super hench computer. What's going on here

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
#38940: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:06:53 PM

You’re haunted, clearly.

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blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#38941: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:09:23 PM

I've been making a point to save often, especially before transitioning cells. You just KNOW though, that the one time I forget is going to be the one time it happens. -_-

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#38942: Sep 11th 2019 at 1:11:08 PM

Fallout 3 had an issue with twin cores,look up the issue on for a fix

Open up the fallout.ini file in: My Documents\My Games\Fallout 3 Find the line: bUseThreadedAI=0 change it to: bUseThreadedAI=1 Add another line after it and insert: iNumHWThreads=2 This will limit the game to 2 cores and prevent the engine bug from causing the game to freeze.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/22370/discussions/0/846941710314682539/?l=german

New theme music also a box
rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#38943: Oct 7th 2019 at 1:59:54 PM

Trivia.Fallout New Vegas has two What Could Have Been entries that I can't find any sources supporting:


This is the only place I've read this.
The New Vegas Strip and Freeside used to be whole zones by themselves. Early showcases of the game showed of the whole Strip, and it is also rendered that way in the intro cinematic. Freeside itself was a single massive zone, including a number of no-name generic NPCs and the Mormon Fort having open gates. Both instances were "sectioned off" due to the Xbox 360 and Play Station 3 not having the necessary processing power to render all the NPCs running around the Strip and Freeside without some serious slowdown or even game crashes. The Strip just had two gaudy scrap metal gates separating it into three zones. Freeside, however, got hit harder: fences/gates made from junked buses, the Mormon Fort was made its own zone, and NPCs were cut to reduce the memory problems. Appropriately, there are a pair of mods that convert the Strip and Freeside to their early open area builds.
Early demos do show the Strip as all one zone, but and while I've seen other people claim this was the case for Freeside, I've never seen any source for it, though there are the Dummied Out beggars and pickpockets for Freeside.

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Lavaeolus Since: Jan, 2015
#38944: Oct 10th 2019 at 2:03:28 AM

I hadn't heard the Mysterious Stranger one before, but a quick look at The Vault took me to what I assume is the source. It's a Something Awful forum post by 'rope kid', which is apparently Sawyer's account there. Someone mentions having the Stranger kill the Drifter, to which Sawyer replies, I don't whether in jest: 'Really wish we had time to hard code that so the Mysterious Stranger would kill you.'

I don't know if it supports exactly what's written regarding the Mormon Fort, and it's possible they're getting info from elsewhere, especially given how Sawyer has talked about the game, but I am aware of this interview with some of the New Vegas developers. Scott Everts, lead world designer, talks a bit about console limitations:

"One of the things about that game is it would have been a lot different if it was PC only," Everts recalls of the world design. "We had a lot of plans early on. Like, 'Here's where the water is stored, here's where the farms are, here's where the government is centralised'. We had it all planned out – it wasn't just a bunch of random stuff. Then we had the whole thing of how the factions interact with each other. Even 'How does the water get here?' Because that's important – those are the things a lot of people don’t think about.

"We could have gone further with that. We had to simplify, so we had less stuff that would bog down the game engine. I was more happy with the DLC because by that time we knew what would work and what wouldn't. [...]"

In fact, it was in making sure the game worked on console that led to Freeside and the suburbs around Vegas being broken up into its own zone. It just would not have run otherwise. Unfortunately, it is simply a fact of modern game creation that: developers go into a project with hundreds of ideas in their head, but have to scale things back in order to make it, you know, work. Additionally, some things might sound like a good idea, only to turn out awful when implemented. These typical design problems were exacerbated for New Vegas's team because of the tight 18-month window they had to ship the game.

There might be some extrapolation going on with the in-game files as well, which I'm not as familiar with.

Edited by Lavaeolus on Oct 10th 2019 at 10:14:41 AM

rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#38945: Oct 10th 2019 at 5:59:59 AM

[up]Thanks, I've re-added them with links to those sources.

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rjd1922 he/him | Image Pickin' regular from the United States Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Love is for the living, Sal
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#38947: Oct 14th 2019 at 10:46:16 AM

~Th3overseer added parentheses to the Fanon entry on YMMV.Fallout New Vegas saying "a hard-to-find note in McCarran disproves" that Boone shot his wife from the Sniper's Nest. I've never heard of such a note: has anyone else? And can Th3overseer please elaborate?

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Dhiruxide Since: Dec, 2016
#38949: Oct 14th 2019 at 1:45:51 PM

So, I gotta ask: plasma of laser?

I am not gonna lie, Fallout 3 helped my perception of fictional lasers and plasma. Red vs green, hitscan vs projectile and more. Not gonna discuss realism since I'm dumb and fictional ones are most fun.

I've always been fond of plasma more. I guess it's because whenever I see a plasma gun, I think "Doom plasma gun". Difference being Fallout lacks blue rapid fire plasma rifles...

I enjoy lasers as well but plasma is more fun.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#38950: Oct 14th 2019 at 2:01:18 PM

Neither, I've never liked energy weapons

Oh really when?

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