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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73651: Feb 18th 2020 at 12:43:02 PM

Theory: Robin's habit of imagining and admiring cute things in silence while also imagining extremely dark things and vocalizing it is a result of trauma from her backstory. She never got a chance to grow up and live a normal childhood, so she experiences childlike wonder at cute things. At the same time, the way she grew up living a perpetual life of fear leads her to automatically assume and be prepared for the worst possible outcomes of any given situation.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#73652: Feb 18th 2020 at 4:03:39 PM

Not going to lie, starting to think Law is kind of an idiot.

Like, you threatened Doflamingo, killed at least two of his major allies, and made him publicly give up his status... and you didn't think he was going to try to trick and kill you?

This song needs more love.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#73653: Feb 18th 2020 at 4:24:23 PM

and stuff like that is part of why I considered Katakuri's "undefeated legend" to be essentially meaningless.

Wasn't that the whole point? That Katakuri's family was projecting their ideal image onto him and it didn't reflect who he was in reality?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#73654: Feb 18th 2020 at 4:26:30 PM

About some things, sure. But I think "Katakuri has never lost!" was definitely something Oda added to make Luffy beating him more impressive, and it didn't work for me.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#73655: Feb 18th 2020 at 5:54:03 PM

I think that's being a little cynical on Oda's part; the only ones who hyped up Katakuri's bounty were his family. Katakuri never talked himself up like that, and sure enough, it was an image he had built to protect his family.

I think it's fair to criticize a lot of Oda's writing, but I think it's fair to give credit where it's due for it as well.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Feb 18th 2020 at 8:57:10 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#73656: Feb 18th 2020 at 5:55:59 PM

Ii didn't say Katakuri was written poorly, I actually think he was one of the best written characters in the arc, I just didn't care for that aspect or what I think Oda was trying to do with it.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#73657: Feb 18th 2020 at 5:58:19 PM

I wonder where Kata is considering he wasn’t on Big Mom’s ship apparently.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#73658: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:11:32 PM

Popular theory is that he's guarding the home turf, and will get bushwhacked by Teach for the Road Poneglyph.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#73659: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:19:49 PM

[up][up][up] I was saying that I don't think Oda was trying to do that at all.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#73660: Feb 18th 2020 at 6:22:32 PM

And that's fine, but I do. It's not that big a deal to me, just one thing I didn't really care for.

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#73661: Feb 18th 2020 at 10:54:31 PM

At least it wasn't as ridiculous as Lucci's hype was for a pre-timeskip guy.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73662: Feb 19th 2020 at 4:27:56 AM

I am now finished with Zo, the land of flashbacks. Good stuff. I like having a shorter arc with lower stakes, even if the things being talked about are super important lore stuff. Knowing what happens on Whole Cake island, it's funny to think that Jack, Nekomamushi, and Inuarashi are all around the same level of power as Katakuri and Gear 4 Luffy. The Mink kings are no joke, either of them would whoop Doflamingo's ass.

I like that Vivi retained some Charles Atlas Superpower from her time in Baroque Works and with the Straw Hats, enough that she can jump down from the crow's nest of a battleship and land on the deck unharmed.

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#73663: Feb 19th 2020 at 6:38:27 AM

Katakuri is Big Mom's Right Hand Mand. I'm pretty sure he's stronger than Jack, who still has King and Queen above him. He should be more comparable to Cracker.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Feb 19th 2020 at 6:39:09 AM

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#73664: Feb 19th 2020 at 6:58:02 AM

I figure Kaido's men got their bounties through the Kidd method of murdering everyone violently. Katakuri kinda does the same but he's mostly restricted to Totland?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73665: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:07:54 AM

[up][up]Fair enough, though the gap between Cracker and Katakuri isn't that wide.

fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#73666: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:14:17 AM

Even with Jack, I don't think he's much weaker than Queen and King. When he's scolded by them, he's visibly angry and not submissive at all

Btw, after this flashback, I see some showing of the fire festival, partially because world-building, and partially to show some of the remaining players of this declared "big battle", like this samurai squad working for Orochi and the numbers of the beast pirates, I can see the latter facing off the straw hats

Edited by fishysaur on Feb 19th 2020 at 9:00:26 AM

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#73667: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:20:24 AM

King and Queen do seem to regard Jack as an incompetent however, and each other more as equals, so they really might be significantly stronger.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73668: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:28:49 AM

Thanks One Piece, for forcing the mental image of Bege and Chiffon having sex to produce that child upon me. I needed to stock up on Brain Bleach anyway. Also, I don't like that the baby has stubble.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 19th 2020 at 9:29:28 AM

GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#73669: Feb 19th 2020 at 8:46:27 AM

No-one has sex in One Piece, it's all just storks. A man and a woman have a kiss with special emotions, and that alerts a stork in the baby sorting island who dispatches a baby over to them nine months later, same as how those seagulls manage to deliver newspapers to people who have the subscriptions, no matter where they are.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#73670: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:01:30 AM

[up][up][up]They all seem to regard the other two as incompetent

[up][up]Think that among Big Mom children there is an half-dwarf...

Personally I love how Pez is so a tiny Capone (with his mother's hair) that even has a cigar-like pacifier XD

[up] So Ace's stork got lost... that is actually more reasonable than the true explanatio

Edited by fishysaur on Feb 19th 2020 at 9:03:30 AM

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Captain of the Dead City
#73671: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:02:58 AM

No, I think King and Queen bicker and argue, but they don't consider the other incompetent. Jack they consider incompetent.

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#73672: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:05:04 AM

[up][up] I thought you'd be more angry at the fact that he has a CIGAR! Luckily its only a toy in the anime.

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fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
Good for nothing
#73673: Feb 19th 2020 at 9:08:23 AM

[up]Even in the manga it's a pacifier, otherwise I would be angry. Child-Oden is the only child allowed to smoke

[up][up]So Jack is like the younger brother everyone bully

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#73674: Feb 19th 2020 at 10:02:03 AM

When he's scolded by them, he's visibly angry and not submissive at all

Was this the anime version of the scene? Because I remember the manga version having Jack acting pretty submissive towards King and Queen.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#73675: Feb 19th 2020 at 10:13:30 AM

You know, I wonder how long Oda planned for Sanji's Germa backstory. We know that he plans some major events and beats in advance. It can't be since Sanji was introduced, there's no hints of anything like that. Maybe the earliest was before Skypiea, with that line that Sanji was born in the North Blue, maybe that's when Oda decided that he wanted to expand Sanji's backstory before he met Zeff.


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