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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#71451: Aug 21st 2019 at 10:51:28 AM

I mean, no? Haki would definitely be great, but it wouldn't really overcome the fundamental issues of whether she's useful or not.

Edited by LSBK on Aug 21st 2019 at 12:53:03 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71452: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:40:29 AM

I mean, are we talking about general usefulness or just fighting ability?

I know it's an action series, so fighting ability is favored above all else, but I think people tend to forget certain characters aren't frontline fighters.

Nami and Robin aren't frontline fighters and while the nature of the series generally means they have less focus, it doesn't necessarily make them useless either.

Robin's moves are more utility based than straight up raw power like the monster trio. It's not really fair to compare them when their roles are completely different.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Aug 21st 2019 at 2:42:26 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71453: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:15:55 PM

I think One Piece is one of the few series where Utility based abilities are as useful as they should be.

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#71454: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:18:44 PM

an interesting concept I heard was Robin learning Rokushiki plus Haki, but she'd probably not be a big fan. tongue

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71455: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:23:52 PM

There was a poster here who actually came up with that idea.

Had links to an article he wrote about it and everything... at least I think he did.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71456: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:55:36 PM

Yea, I think people focus way too much on the character's lack combat prowess, which isn't anything new for a Shonen series admittedly, since being able to level buildings will always be a valuable ability in these settings.

But it's not like the non-Monster trio crew members can't pull their weight.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71457: Aug 21st 2019 at 3:53:46 PM

Just to make the point, how far do you think the Straw Hats would have gotten without Nami?

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 21st 2019 at 4:54:05 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71458: Aug 21st 2019 at 4:12:30 PM

Lost and sunk in a tidal wave or storm.

They’d have lasted five seconds tops.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71459: Aug 21st 2019 at 4:13:57 PM

Like, this isn't Dragon Ball where if you can't change your hair color to seven shades from the rainbow, you're useless. (Unless your name is Bulma)

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:14:23 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71460: Aug 21st 2019 at 4:15:37 PM

And even Bulma has her limits on how long she can defy the lack of uselessness.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#71461: Aug 21st 2019 at 4:26:38 PM

Robin's skillset is suited for assassination, so her fights would be extremely quick and not very interesting to look at.

So...unfortunately, she gets sidelined.

Still mad about how Diamante had the perfect Devil Fruit to give Robin a proper fight and how she ended up sidelined against him.

Edited by Moth13 on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:26:48 AM

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#71462: Aug 21st 2019 at 4:28:52 PM

It's easy to forget that even the weaker Straw Hats are leagues above average. Robin was throwing around those supposedly elite ninjas like rag dolls.

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#71463: Aug 21st 2019 at 6:03:22 PM

I agree with the sentiment that "Robin with Haji" is an overrated hypothetical.

Cause pre-timeskip no-one in the crew had armament or observation and they fought plenty of haki-less enemies without her standing out much. If she had Halo she'd probably just stay in relatively the same position she was pre-timeskip.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71464: Aug 21st 2019 at 6:12:29 PM

Well, I don't think it would make her unstoppable....wait, I think I did say that.

But that was hyperbole.

I just think that, properly applied alongside her powers would make Robin more dangerous than she already is without it.

But considering direct combat isn't really her style, I do agree that she probably wouldn't do that much even with it.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71465: Aug 21st 2019 at 6:37:31 PM

Edit: oops, wrong thread. Sorry.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:47:17 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#71466: Aug 21st 2019 at 6:42:50 PM

[up]

....what...does that have to do with One Piece?

[down] Ah. No problem then.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Aug 21st 2019 at 7:55:00 AM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#71467: Aug 21st 2019 at 6:47:54 PM

My bad, got my tabs mixed up.

Is there an op chapter this week or not? I haven't been keeping track but I think this is the fourth week and, thus, break week.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 21st 2019 at 8:07:46 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71468: Aug 21st 2019 at 7:14:43 PM

As far as we know, there isnt a break.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#71470: Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:12:46 PM

Okay so there may be a showed that can harm Kaido which has apparently given him his one & only scar.

Though damn Zorro better not give away Shushi. That sword deserved better than being a fucking antique to be gawked at.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#71471: Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:41:55 PM

As opposed to what, being drenched in the blood of its enemies? I don’t think swords should be used for the sake of using them.

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#71472: Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:51:12 PM

Huh, so Gyukimaru is a fox, and used the same alias Kawamatsu did when the kappa was confronting grave robbers.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#71473: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:24:30 AM

[up][up] swords are kind of meant to be used. And Zoro clearly has only ever used his in either self defense or to protect someone else, never for personal gain.

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GoldenKaos Captain of the Dead City from Cirith Ungol Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#71474: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:26:54 AM

Was it ever explained why Shusui is such a national treasure to Wano above other swords? And if Enma is somehow superior to Shusui, why is it preferable that Shusui remain in Wano but it's ok gifting Enma to Zoro?

Edited by GoldenKaos on Aug 23rd 2019 at 1:27:57 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#71475: Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:30:32 AM

Its cause Shusui was the personal sword of the samurai Ryuma who is both a legendary figure & national hero to Wano going back centuries.

Its the sword of a long dead hero.

[up][up] Plus taking the sword to Raftel, the end of the world to find the greatest treasure of all is a Hell of a way to honor.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 23rd 2019 at 5:32:52 AM

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