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alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀑𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#67327: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:30:18 PM

Heh, speaking of eyes, one of the animators on the anime just posted some pretty good glassless Doflamingo fan art.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67328: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:54:00 PM

Kaido making all of Wano wilderness overrun with beasts is interesting though. Staying true to his epithet, I guess.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#67329: Jul 19th 2018 at 2:58:40 PM

Wano’s become a circus now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Kakuzan Let memes die. Kill them, if you have to. from Knock knock, open up the door, it's real. Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#67330: Jul 19th 2018 at 3:11:16 PM

I do wonder why the Shogun allied himself with Kaido.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67331: Jul 19th 2018 at 3:47:26 PM

Probably a combination of wanting a power grab and how people who refuse Kaido tend to not live very long.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#67332: Jul 19th 2018 at 4:47:40 PM

You know what would be great? If the story sided with the current shogun for being smart enough to surrender to a guy he had no chance of beating. But Oda wouldn't write that.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67333: Jul 19th 2018 at 4:50:09 PM

I said a power grab is likely involved, but I'm curious what power the Shogun would be grabbing for. Unless it was like real feudal Japan and the title was largely meaningless, at least further away you got from the capital or something.

Edited by LSBK on Jul 19th 2018 at 7:02:58 AM

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#67334: Jul 19th 2018 at 4:57:20 PM

[up][up]...So a variation on how Bege surrendered (well, pretended to surrender) to Linlin?

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#67335: Jul 19th 2018 at 4:59:36 PM

Orochi may be an ultra nationalist that was displeased with Oden. This is just a wild guess since we don't have much to go on right now.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67336: Jul 19th 2018 at 5:19:28 PM

Interesting that Drake apparently did something legitimately terrible. You know how people love making excuses for cool characters, or expect them to all not be really bad. Well, I guess part of that is how Oda usually writes things like this, but still.

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#67337: Jul 19th 2018 at 5:41:59 PM

Where is it said that he did something like that? Im not defending him, but as far as it goes with One Piece Oda likes to make a pile out of atrocious things for a character only to have them join the Strawhats after all.

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alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀑𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#67339: Jul 19th 2018 at 5:55:48 PM

probably cause he's a filthy Zoan.

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#67340: Jul 19th 2018 at 6:29:09 PM

Was it ever a question if Drake was kind of a monster? I thought it was hinted as far back as Sabaody that Drake was a mass killer. I have seen a theory or two speculating that Drake turned tail on the Marines because of an atrocity they committed, with him killing them all (the Marines) in turn. I don't think it is unlikely that he has more layers to him, but I really do wonder sometimes if some fans care more about having certain characters be some sort of freedom fighter against the World Government.

Edited by Kakuzan on Jul 19th 2018 at 9:33:09 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67341: Jul 19th 2018 at 6:33:10 PM

A lot of people don't get that you can like a character, without liking the kind of person they are.

Especially prominent here where a lot of people want to buy into the narrative that there aren't really any bad pirates, and if there are, everyone in the Government is a billion times worse (with the exception of their pet Marine characters, of course).

Edited by LSBK on Jul 19th 2018 at 8:41:36 AM

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#67342: Jul 19th 2018 at 6:38:29 PM

I mean, one of my favorite characters is Crocodile since I like the whole mafia vibe, but I don't go around trying to sweep under the rug how he plunged a country into civil war all so he could get a weapon of mass destruction. Not even Luffy forgot about that tidbit. And most pirates are indeed Chaotic Evil, but hey, they are honest about it, so it makes it okay.

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#67343: Jul 19th 2018 at 6:50:40 PM

Any way, I wonder if Basil and Apoo were working with Kaido before they met with Kidd, or if they joined him after they were made an offer or intimated. If it is the latter, I wonder why Kaido would give them positions of power so quickly when they probably haven't done much to earn his trust.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#67344: Jul 19th 2018 at 6:52:52 PM

Impressed by their skill/reputation? Hawkins and Drake have the same rank as Sheepshead so I wouldn't be surprised if they're not that high up in the hierarchy.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#67345: Jul 19th 2018 at 7:02:15 PM

It's kind of funny how so many of the Supernovas who were feared by the world for challenging the status quo have ultimately either had no real impact on it or have decided to join it.

Disgusted, but not surprised
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#67346: Jul 19th 2018 at 7:11:47 PM

Only Luffy, Law, & Zorro are actually worth shit in the end.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
MileRun Since: Jan, 2001
#67347: Jul 19th 2018 at 7:27:21 PM

I'd wager that Kid (+Killer) and Bonney will do some important stuff later, at the very least. Maybe Uroge too.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#67348: Jul 19th 2018 at 7:45:14 PM

And it wasn't for lack of trying on Bege's part.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#67349: Jul 19th 2018 at 7:49:09 PM

While the series does emphasize that bad pirates are the norm, on the other hand when you see the same kind of authority that runs this world then it's easy to side with the blatantly awful pirates because of the fact that they don't flash the symbol of justice while doing horrible stuff. I was one of those who thought X-Drake would be one of the more reasonable Supernovas, but it looks like he could be just as bloodthirsty as Kidd. At this point, you wonder if they underselled how the rest could be brutal.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014

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