One Piece

Laboon (post-training) vs Zunisha vs Sanjuan Wolf, go!

Question: is this supposed to be Sanjuan Wolf?◊ Certainly looks like him, but it's way too small unless there's some weird perspective issue happening here.

edited 7th Jan '18 7:26:11 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Sanjuan Wolf is the size of an island. I have no idea how they fit him down there.

Now I wonder if he possibly has a size varying Fruit and prefers to be very very big

I have no idea how they're going to fight him either, short of calling in the elephant, maybe.

Naruto and Bleach have more world building than you're giving them credit for. I mean, I can boil One Piece down to that little too. Pirates sail around a big ocean fighting each other and marines, small and fairly interchangeable kingdoms get caught in the crossfire.

Technically, Sanjuan Wolf isn't quite the same size as an island.

He's about half the size of the central castle of Marineford, assuming that his head is disproportionately large compared to his body, based on Wadatsumi's proportions and Wolf's apparent shoulder width.◊

He's also only like 1/16 the size of Marineford as a whole, assuming that Sanjuan Wolf has a diameter of about 2.5 squares and Marineford has a diameter of 12 squares. Wolf could fit comfortably within Marineford's harbor.◊ Marineford is also a very small island compared to some other islands, like Alabasta. You can see from one side of Marineford to the other fairly easily.

edited 7th Jan '18 10:39:40 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Going by this, I highly doubt he has any DF at all.

edited 7th Jan '18 9:41:35 PM by LeChuck4

Heh, the anime did some damage control this week by tweaking one of Big Mom's lines to have her put Pudding down when it's revealed that her third eye should let her read Poneglyphs by saying that she'd just be a creepy three-eyed girl otherwise.

They also let Tamago show off his chick form a bit unlike the manga which was neat because they had him completely change his fighting style (dual wields daggers for quick, close-range attacks instead of kicking and swordplay). Too bad it doesn't look like he's going to get much of a chance to show off his final chicken form unless Carrot or Brook get to finish what Pedro started.

Maybe, but the other two don't put nearly the amount of detail into those "interchangable kingdoms" that OP does. Among then being "land in the sky with dirt and trees jungle" in it, moving Land of the Dead island that's really a giant pirate ship, an explorer naming a place Little Garden because that's what it is to the inhabitants.

The most we ever saw of the Sand Village was landscape shots as Gaara fought Deidara. The only other major location I can think of that saw a lot of detail outside of Leaf Village and Land of Waves might be the Land of Neutral Samurai that hosted the Kage Summit. I'm not sure if I can count Kaguya as, while she does add to the lore, she's otherwise a Giant Space Flea from Nowhere. I can't be sure how accurate it is to say this, but I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the anime filler filled in more of the world building than the manga.

I'll leave it at that, since that subject isn't strictly One Piece and I don't really want to get into a debate with someone whose biases on the series run generally counter to my own. Not really worth it, to me.

edited 7th Jan '18 10:20:04 PM by sgamer82

I don't really want to argue about it anymore either, so you can have the last word. I just felt One Piece was being given too much credit and other shonen series too little.

I feel like OP's world being wacky is being conflated with having more worldbuilding. Because apart from that detail I don't see it as being latgely different either.

Also Bleach's final arc had a lot of worldbuilding in relation to the balance of spirits and how shit works which is still being expanded upon through novels.

I will say that One Piece's world building of individual islands took a hit post Time Skip. We're set up for the New World to be a place so insane that everything seen up to now is considered Paradise by comparison. Yet of the four places visited since arriving in the New World, the craziness of the location had little to nothing to do with the place itself, other than Zou.

• Punk Hazard's Hailfire Peaks and centaurs were both very new developments and there seems like there was nothing strange about the island before that
• Take away the Living Toys and Dressrosa was actually pretty mundane.
• I think Big Mom's flashback implied she was on what would become Whole Cake Island when she got her powers and met Strussen. Though I'm inclined to give this one a pass since it's basically Big Mom using 50-odd years to create a kingdom all her own and a genuine culture looks to have developed over that time.

Compared to the above examples of Skypeia, Thriller Bark, and Little Garden, that don't really measure up except for Zou, a literal giant elephant with a civilization of Petting-Zoo People on its back with connections to several elements of backstory and the promise of more to come.

edited 7th Jan '18 11:09:56 PM by sgamer82

Didn't Dressrosa technically have Green Bit and all of the dwarves? That's not very mundane.

True. I tend to forget about Green Bit and the Tontatta with everything else in Dressrosa.

Looking back at Marineford, I wonder if the Admirals used Katakuri's trick to avoid some of the more major Haki damage.

Like Aokiji getting stabbed in the heart by Whitebeard.

Secret Signature

Speaking of which, I don't really like the implication that Luffy's going to figure that out a day after hearing that it's a thing that can be done.

I doubt his body has enough flexibility for it.

I don't really think he has that much control over his rubber.

That's more Plastic Man tiers of stretchiness.

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ba-dum-tsh

I think LSBK was referring to the future sight observation ability.

It wasn't clear since the posts before it were about how Katakuri was mimicking Logia types to dodge attacks, which is only part foresight.

edited 8th Jan '18 12:30:25 PM by sgamer82

Yeah, that, that thing he said he was going to try and figure out. But Arha and Alekos were just being sarcastic/playful as is the norm.

edited 8th Jan '18 12:05:21 PM by LSBK

I actually did misunderstand what you meant.

I CAN SEE THE FUTURE!!!!!!

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

Well, basic Co O is pretty close to that anyway.

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I mean, obviously they're related, he's using observation haki to do it, but if it were easy everyone would be doing it.

Wait, so he's using an ability that lets' him dodge subconsciously...so what you're saying is that it's Ultra Instinct.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.