Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series

Sorry for double-posting but I just want to correct this: "he throws a duel on purpose during a filler episode during the transition between duelist kingdom and battle city."

No, that wasn't Yami. That was Yugi, all the way through. He surrendered to Rebecca.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 9th 2021 at 3:54:03 AM

Did the card in this also originally refer to Joey or was that just clever abridging?

In the original it was Heart Of The Underdog so probably a reference to him.

Also those duels he lose the context work to him: he was THIS close to win against pegasus but the counter die down before he could land the final blow, kaiba decide to kill himself by throwing of a cliff since by all intent and purpose he won and with rebeca he decide to surrender because indeed yugi decide it was better for her to win(granted, yugi didnt wanted to give the dragon back because it was tape) and hell after that rebecca got a crush on him.

So that means of his five losses, one was a near victory and the other three was a surrender, there is a reason Raphael was a shock for many.

Finally watched the episode.

Real talk, I kinda vibe with Dragon Deck girl. Though thankfully you can make some amazing decks revolving around Dragons in YGO (e.g. Dragon Link, which is still meta).

I think my favorite joke was the appearance of the DBZA narrator in the beginning.

Edited by Karxrida on Jan 9th 2021 at 6:31:03 AM

Win records don't always tell the story. For example, Yusei all but lost to Kalin until his bike crashed, but it's officially an unfinished duel. Haven't seen Vrains so I don't know if it's true for Yusaku, though.

Context is important, I agree. Just counting up the results doesn't strike me as the best way to look at a duel.

LK is down to abridge Dark Side of Dimensions.

That is why I prefer more "how they won the duel" than a number records because it tell more of their habilities(and in a watsonian sense, on how the writer make the rule), for example Yami marik can be see as terrible duelist because he nearly lost every single damn duel he was and yet his manipulation of the shadow realm power make him formidable, so he is a good duelist, just not a conventional one.

Yeah, I do prefer looking at how the duelists comported themselves, the narrative context of the duel, etc. It's just a, for lack of a better word, less shallow way of looking at duels and duelists.

Katsuya and Yami Marik, for example. It ended with what can be considered a loss but considering that Katsuya's been suffering under the effects of Marik's Shadow Game, making the pain he gets feel real, the whole time yet still manages to force Yami Marik on the backfoot and even after getting incinerated by Yami Marik's God Blaze Cannon, he's still standing, only one play away from winning. That he finally collapses from the magical effects is not a mark against him. Indeed, it's impressive how close he was to winning.

(Also, no way in hell Katsuya would defeat Yami Marik, considering Marik's entire deal and motivations, the very reason Battle City began, all centered around the Pharaoh. This isn't Katsuya's story and Marik, even Yami Marik, isn't his villain.)

Or Sho and Ryo's duel. Sure, Sho lost, but the point of the duel was to show off how much he had grown from that whimpy child who collapsed at the first sign of a duel going awry and managing to uphold the philosophy that his cruel older brother is now tossing away. "Sho, you are the true Kaiser," Judai shouted as Sho losses consciousness.

There's a difference between a loss and a loss, is what I'm saying.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 9th 2021 at 11:50:59 AM

I'm just glad Little Kuriboh is healthy again. Guy had multiple health issues for a while but it looks like he's doing a lot better regardless of anything else.

Wait, you pointed out that Katsuya had that game won except for passing out, but then say he'd never beat Marik? What do you mean?

I mean that considering how Marik's backstory and motivation for his villainy was wrapped around the Pharaoh and Marik stealing the Egyptian God Cards was what drove Izuzu to go to Seto and push him to start Battle City, would you really be expecting Katsuya, somebody who has a connection with Yugi and the Pharaoh (and has also been used to attack Yugi/the Pharaoh) but little else to do with the Egyptian God Cards and the Pharaoh's memories, to be the one to defeat Marik?

I'm trying to look at it from a writing perspective. The story of Battle City and Marik's attacks was not going to conclude without that climatic battle between Marik and Yugi, especially when Marik has been hounding Yugi so fervently during Battle City. It's not about Katsuya being a good duelist so much as Katsuya not being the person that Marik's enmity has been about this entire arc and, therefore, want to see finally defeat him.

Really, getting that close to victory might have been the best he could get under those circumstances.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 9th 2021 at 11:26:08 AM

Oh yeah, from a meta perspective obviously there was no way he'd win.

But from an in-universe perspective, it shows that without any shadow malarkey Jonouchi would straight up beat Marik which doesn't make him a super credible duelist.

Well, my comment about Katsuya not being able to defeat Yami Marik was from that same meta-perspective.

Edit: To clarify and actually answer your question, I didn't mean that Katsuya could never beat Yami Marik, just that he wasn't going to at that moment.

Edited by fredhot16 on Jan 10th 2021 at 10:20:09 AM

So there was this post last page about LK enabling abuse in his friends circle and everyone jsut kinda ignored it?

Well, it's not a topic most people are comfortable discussing, and there's nothing to be done about it aside from losing all respect for Martin, which I assume most people here did.

I had completley forgot about it with everything that happened last year and the thread being just kinda dead. Thanks for the reminder.

It's in the original, even though the card is actually based on this bloke.

Oh hey, I remember that plot from the manga. That was the one where the bullies got fried in a ring of fire. The fake superhero also got his own card.

I wasn't sure if if LK would actually go through with dubbing this filler arc considering how insignificant it is. But he's going for it.

@LK abuse stuff: I...really don't know how to feel. On one hand, what happened sounds cruel of him to do, if the stuff described is true, he should own up to it. But on the other hand, something about the testimony doesn't click right for me at all, and I really can't figure out why. Sorry if this sounds dickish, I'm just really confused.

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Jan 10th 2021 at 10:54:36 AM

That was a good episode. I don't remember how long they often are, though. 26 minutes feels longer than normal. But the last thing I watched was a different one, Yugioh GX Abridged, so maybe that's on my mind.

Heart of the Underdog is hilariously mocked. I also like Zigfried, and he actually feels almost perfectly in-character in general. Pegasus was changed up a lot more, but Zigfried was always flamboyant.

And I lol'd at them making fun of the completely random duelists that barely were lucky enough to have slight screentime either, making it even worse for them than being unheard of.

About LK cover for people, well the thread was dead at the moment and he was in intensive cares so it seen the news just fled under everyone rada here.

we have any idea of how that afect LK fandom?.

I had heard literally nothing about it until now and also doubt it?

I don’t think I’ve heard about that once since the initial accusation, and considering basically no one cared, since Martin’s still a popular figure, kinda just assumed there was nothing to it.

Doubt it.

Edited by randomness4 on Jan 10th 2021 at 10:46:33 AM