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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#52826: Nov 16th 2018 at 9:37:37 AM

When you don't have much character development, quirks can take you a long way. It's why despite being a party member and main part of the group since the beginning, I never much cared for Mitsuru.

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#52827: Nov 16th 2018 at 10:04:34 AM

Mitsuru isn't the most interesting of the P3 cast, but I don't think she's much duller than the P4 or 5 cast either.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#52828: Nov 16th 2018 at 10:09:57 AM

Depends on what you like in your characters; but in something as plot heavy as Persona, I kind of expect a certain level of dynamism to care.

In less plot heavy games, quirks are fine since those are character driven anyway.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#52829: Nov 16th 2018 at 10:42:38 AM

Mitsuru is too perfect. Class Pres, richer than god, taking college courses 2 years ahead of her while still managing to fight shadows and be class pres and everything else, etc. I dropped the Sue bomb on her before and it still fits.

Her only flaw is she cant understand the common people.

Least with Haru she has the issue of trying to avoid the Extreme Doormat problem with Yamato Nadeshiko and cant actually run a huge company... unlike Mitsuru.

EDIT: Hell her being a senior and still class pres is an issue in of itself, 3rd years rarely continue the class pres thing because they need to focus on studying. Hence why Makoto, a second year, is pres.

Edited by Memers on Nov 16th 2018 at 10:46:15 AM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#52830: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:01:14 AM

Mitsuru's flaw is being the best character in any Persona game, thus making everyone else look bad in comparison. Poor Mitsuru.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52831: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:02:02 AM

So she's literally too perfect then?

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#52832: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:16:31 AM

In a game where the rest of the cast have a ton of baggage and overcoming flaws, it makes Mitsuru stand out for her lack of them. Even the Social Links don't really provide a whole lot, she's indirectly important to the greater plot, but that's about it.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#52833: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:20:24 AM

Yep, that's exactly right. She's just too good of a character for the series. She makes it clear how terrible everyone else is. The best they can do is manage to be fairly good on occasion.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52834: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:22:02 AM

Honestly she sounds like a sociopath.

Too perfect to the point of being inhuman.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#52835: Nov 16th 2018 at 11:43:09 AM

Please, at least call her a humanoid abomination given that she can't even pass for human while eating fast food. I DO NO UNDERSTAND YOU'RE HU-MAN FOOD.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#52836: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:04:15 PM

And any lesson shes supposed to learn is of course forgotten. Like relying on others, which she expressly tries not to do in the Arena games and she has to learn again. Ultimax even ignores her knowing the Country bumpkins wont listen in Arena and expects them to Investigate.

Its why I hope Yaldy just demolished SO offscreen because its an unnecessary thing and its one of he worst uses of P3 gang. Plus the first threat we are shown them dealing with handles them like little babies.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Nov 16th 2018 at 12:05:44 PM

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#52837: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:30:09 PM

"Arena's writing ruined characters" is basically just saying "water is wet."

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52838: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:37:05 PM

Ha just wait till we get P5 Arena. evil grin

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 16th 2018 at 12:37:12 PM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#52839: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:40:34 PM

More like "Geez Atlus writers why cant you give your characters arcs that dont repeat in spinoffs?!"

P Qs great though because they have those arcs for P3 just to enforce how theyll forget it all and the tragedy happens proving Zeus is right.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#52840: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:43:24 PM

Mitsuru is so perfect that even people in real life are jealous of her and thus, must hate her because they aren't her.

Makoto inherited her will to carry on her legacy.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52841: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:44:22 PM

Like just make them sociopaths then.

That be pretty fun actually. tongue

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#52842: Nov 16th 2018 at 12:46:05 PM

If a nut like Hitler could canonically be a persona user (and not just Nyarly pretending to be him) I dont see why sociopaths can't.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Nov 16th 2018 at 12:46:38 PM

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CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#52843: Nov 16th 2018 at 3:58:43 PM

Personally, I don't mind that Mitsuru is perfect because in an actual fight (least in vanilla P3 and FES), her AI is absolutely rubbish as it will waste her turn on ailment spells like Marin Karin or Tentarafoo instead of doing something useful.

Edited by CybranGeneralSturm on Nov 16th 2018 at 3:59:16 AM

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#52844: Nov 16th 2018 at 4:33:54 PM

Mitsuru was always my favorite P3 character along with Shinji.

She's just really likable with an awesome design, voice and personality.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52845: Nov 16th 2018 at 4:41:21 PM

Okay I've rather latched on to the concept of having teammates comprised of various types of sociopaths & pyschos.

Digging deep into the mental mind & Persona's of a bunch of positively deranged people sounds like a wild hoot. tongue

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#52846: Nov 16th 2018 at 6:13:09 PM

Just make an Evangelion Persona game where Personas are only activated or powered in direct proportion to how disturbed you are.

Kinda the opposite of the normal games where they receive new Personas by becoming self-actualized. They achieve their new Personas when they have reached peak disturbed and traumatized.

Edited by Nikkolas on Nov 16th 2018 at 6:14:57 AM

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#52847: Nov 16th 2018 at 6:24:29 PM

Makoto literally spends her vacations studying in the school!

Edited by kyun on Nov 16th 2018 at 6:24:41 AM

TrueShadow1 Since: Dec, 2012
#52848: Nov 16th 2018 at 6:31:36 PM

I beat Shadow Okumura, and I feel disappointed with the bosses, honestly. Not that it's because they're easy but yeah they're all super easy, but their designs. I was expecting them to go through weird, but epic One-Winged Angel forms like in Persona 4, but really only Kamoshida did that. Madarame and Kaneshiro don't look threatening at all, you don't fight Futaba (Sphinx is great though), and Okumura's is...sitting on a chair. The actual boss is a palette swap of a miniboss.

For bosses named after demons of the deadly sins, I was expecting more...

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#52849: Nov 16th 2018 at 6:33:10 PM

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#52850: Nov 16th 2018 at 6:52:09 PM

Shadows son! cool

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