Blizzard Bans Single Player Cheaters

This is probably why I don't play any games like that. Company's overreacting just a tad bit. (justified or not)

This been posted yet?

Thoughts?

edited 13th Oct '10 11:18:27 PM by SpellBlade

If the game has cheat codes like SC and WC had, why are people using third party programs to cheat in SP?

Maybe the third-party programs offered something the built-in codes didn't?

The same reason that people used Game Genies back in the day, basically.

Blizzard's cheat list is already fairly extensive. About the only reason you'd need someone more extreme is if you wanted to turn the game into a giant sandbox.

Hell, SCII has a God Mode code, why the hell would you need to cheat?

So... it seems like they're only actually banning people who use hacks, and using the In-Game cheats are fine?

Of course using the in-game cheats is fine, was that ever in question?

On October 1, 2010, Blizzard began the unprecedented act of suspending and banning players for the use of CHEATS and trainers in single player games of Starcraft 2: Wings of Liberty. Users found to be using cheats in single player campaign mode and AI skirmish mode were treated the same as if they had cheated in a multiplayer online match. For some, their accounts were suspended and for others their CD keys were disabled and they were completely locked out of playing even campaign mode in their legally purchased game.

edited 14th Oct '10 4:35:20 AM by aRIS

There's a difference between using the in-game cheats (which are sort of a throwback to older games) and using cheat-cheats, ie third party software. The idea that Blizzard would ban people for using the "power overwhelming" or whatever they are in SC 2 just seems like strawmanning them into some sort of Lawful Stupid. Given vague language, it's just polite to always give people (or companies) the benefit of the doubt rather than assuming the worst of them.

I'm quoting verbatim. I also see no harm in trainers which are rather explicitly said to be single player use only. It makes those epic 12 hour slugfests normally associated with WH 40 K orks that much easier to set up. And locking a player out of a game they purchased is kind of a dick move.

I didn't mean to imply that you weren't quoting. My point was that "cheat" is such a vague term that bolding it doesn't mean anything in this context. You seemed to think that this meant something, but it doesn't unless you assume the worst of Blizzard. "Cheat" is just a generic term for things that let you cheat, which includes "trainers" and "hacks" as well as the in-game pre-programmed cheats with funny names that Blizzard includes in all their RTS games. The slightest bit of common sense would cause one to exclude Blizzard's own cheats from the banning, which are of course already programmed to disable achievements and whatnot. It's ridiculously unsporting to try to twist Blizzard's exact words into implying something that they obviously wouldn't imply.

edited 14th Oct '10 4:56:19 AM by Clarste

Original post by Blizzard. I'll just leave this here and leave before I lose my higher brain functions from the nerdrage that post generated.

Your link doesn't work. You mean this?

Anyway, I can't see how this would spawn nerdrage unless you just hate everything Blizzard does ever, which many people seem to do.

Anyway, I can't see how this would spawn nerdrage unless you just hate everything Blizzard does ever, which many people seem to do.

Jesus christ, the guys paid for the game and they're not being allowed to play it the parts of it they haven't violated the T&C for. Where is your sympathetic nerdrage?

Uh... it says they banned players who were in violation of the To S. Why should I be sympathetic? Furthermore, God Mode cheats are included in the game itself that presumably do not violate the To S, as well as custom maps where you can do whatever the hell you want. I can't even think of a motivation to violate the To S. So no, I don't have any sympathy whatsoever.

If I understand correctly... Using an ingame cheat locks out completing any achievements after they are used right? Only using external cheats are what get you banned? Seeing how achievements are like an online leaderboard that would be unfair to those who did it legitimately.

Seems fair to me.

edited 14th Oct '10 5:47:37 AM by Raso

^ Yes, that's my understanding as well.

I'm trying to wrap my head around the idea of other people giving two shits about what achievements I have, and failing miserably.

^^ Simple e-peen measuring contests, nothing more than that. The more achievements you have (single-player or multiplayer), the more H4RDC0R3 and 1337 you are. At least, that's what I'm assuming.

edited 14th Oct '10 6:10:59 AM by Reflextion

^^ But you have to connect to Battle.net to play, unless you're in offline mode in which case they couldn't even theoretically detect your cheating. While I could understand complaints about being forced to connect to Battle.net, once you've already conceded and done so it should be obvious that you need to follow the Battle.net TOS.

WTF.

That's heavy-handed, by far. If you're concerned with achievements cheaters then remove their online achievements or something. You can't stop someone from using a legally purchased game offline. >_<