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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#1: Oct 17th 2009 at 1:23:52 PM

I have noticed while adding the Kite and Futari Ecchi works that we do have quite a few hentai works with articles nowadays. Bible Black and Mai-chan's daily life being two high profile examples.

Since this is only likely to grow, should we consider changing the Hentai page so that it is an index, to group those series together? We could leave the trope description fully intact, and just list the examples in an Index format.

So, any thoughts? Pros/Cons?

edited 17th Oct '09 1:24:31 PM by Meeble

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#3: Oct 17th 2009 at 1:37:18 PM

We document fiction. Hentai titles usually have more dedicated following than your avarage run-of-the-mill live action porno. I say yeah, make it an index.

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#4: Oct 17th 2009 at 3:58:57 PM

Precedent of sorts: Plot With Porn

Shouldn't that be "Porn With Plot"?

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#5: Oct 17th 2009 at 5:43:42 PM

Why not make it simply "adult material". After all Pirates (the most expensive porno OF ALL TIME) would deserve anb entry here, methinks.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#6: Oct 17th 2009 at 5:58:56 PM

Beats me, but I made Porn with Plot a redirect a while ago, so it's not that important.

Other related things: Porn Tropes

edited 17th Oct '09 5:59:13 PM by Tzetze

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#7: Oct 17th 2009 at 10:29:36 PM

I thought until just now that we had Plot With Porn and Porn with Plot as two separate tropes.

...eventually, we will reach a maximum entropy state where nobody has their own socks or underwear, or knows who to ask to get them back.
Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: Oct 19th 2009 at 8:58:14 AM

Why not make it simply "adult material". After all Pirates (the most expensive porno OF ALL TIME) would deserve anb entry here, methinks.

I would be fine with that, as I'm sure we have plenty of works that would fit into the index.

Any other thoughts? Is this the appropriate place to be bringing up this suggestion?

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#9: Oct 23rd 2009 at 1:32:32 PM

So is anyone opposed to me creating an "Adult Content" index, that would include any kind of pornographic works?

Is there some kind of special approval or process I need to make a new index?

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#10: Oct 23rd 2009 at 3:49:47 PM

I see no problem with that. Maybe take it to YKTTW, though.

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#11: Oct 23rd 2009 at 6:00:31 PM

Ahhh thanks for the suggestion! I will try to get that done sometime this weekend.

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#12: Mar 15th 2010 at 12:27:44 PM

Almost six months, and no changes. Did this dicussion just die off abruptly?

edited 15th Mar '10 12:28:04 PM by MarqFJA

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#13: Sep 24th 2010 at 6:58:39 AM

Actually this was a matter of "something I had intended to do, got busy, and then entirely forgot about". Now that I'm seeing this again a year later, I figure we can bring it up for discussion. If everyone is still in agreement I can put the "Adult Content Index" idea through YKTTW.

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#14: Sep 24th 2010 at 7:48:36 AM

^ Just as long as you still make sure that hentai titles stand out from regular porn. Indexing it itself might still be a better idea.

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#15: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:06:37 AM

Yeah, "Adult Content" as main index, "Hentai" as a sub-index. That oughtta work.

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#16: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:29:55 AM

How would that work? Adult content as an index of other indexes (including Hentai as an example?)

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rallyfan9000 Elite Soldier from overwatch position Since: Jul, 2009
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#17: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:31:38 AM

In a sense, yes.

Have you noticed in some index pages how there are other indexes in small boxes on the right side of the page? For example, Video Game Tropes. That's how it should work.

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#18: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:33:54 AM

Ah, I see... so the "Adult Content" index would basically include, say, non-hentai pornographic works, with Hentai listed as a subcategory that takes you to its own Index.

edited 24th Sep '10 9:34:13 AM by Meeble

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#19: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:43:36 AM

Exactly.

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#20: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:46:20 AM

That sounds doable. I know that "Adult Content" (or whatever it may end up being called) would need to go through YKTTW. My question is, what process do I go through to get approval to make Hentai an index since it's a currently existing page?

edited 24th Sep '10 9:46:33 AM by Meeble

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#21: Sep 24th 2010 at 9:47:13 AM

TRS.

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#22: Sep 24th 2010 at 4:24:59 PM

Maybe if there's enough content to qualify, doujin games could have their own index as well.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#23: Sep 25th 2010 at 5:08:49 PM

Made a TRS thread for Hentai here.

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Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
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#24: Oct 12th 2010 at 7:24:18 AM

Well, the Hentai change is done, as it's now an index. I will be working on giving some of the redlinks there own wiki pages in the coming weeks.

As far as the Adult Content YKTTW is concerned, I have not started that because I'm having trouble thinking of non-hentai, non-H Game works that would qualify that actually have pages. Everything I've searched for either doesn't exist or is a red link.

I would at least like to have a bit more than the required three examples before proposing the YKTTW, as anything short of that would make it hard to justify having an index for.

Can anyone think of some examples that would go under this new index?

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#25: Oct 12th 2010 at 7:34:05 AM

Why say mai-chan as an example......

Anyway what about H-Games or semi H-games that recieve "clean" adaptations even if the anime is way better known?

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