Castlevania General

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Edited by SapphireBlue on Oct 22nd 2021 at 4:42:18 AM

Shanoa only got 24? LAME. FUCKIN LAME.

Although I can see Trevor/Alucard being a thing. They bicker like an old married couple as much as Trevor and Sypha do.

So, I suppose in a way it makes sense for the products of failures to find the Philosopher's Stone led to vampires. It wasn't just about Gold, it was about "Purity" and "The Great Work". Not to act like I know what I'm talking about, of course, since my knowledge of alchemy is limited, but as I understand it the Stone transmuting "Base" Metals into Gold was meant to symbolise perfection. That by doing so the secrets to eternal life and knowledge would be unlocked.

And what is a corruption of eternal life but undeath? If the goal of Alchemy is to "perfect" life, than the failures can only be embodiments of death. And Vampires in CV are considered to be the most powerful of the Creatures of the Night.

On the Iga wanting to distance his work from CV... yeah, I can see that. It's not like how Kamiya claims Bayonetta shares a universe with Devil May Cry since he's still on good terms with a lot of people at Capcom and has spoken highly of the company at times. It's unlikely Capcom would go after Kamiya. I can imagine Konami can be a lot more vindictive with ex employees.

We all know best CV ship is Juste X Furniture.

Edited by PolarPhantom on Oct 22nd 2021 at 7:24:21 AM

Another point of the Philosopher Stone is that attaining the enlightenment needed to actually make the thing would also mean not wanting to use its powers anymore. Sure you can make gold and create life and other cool shit...but you've matured beyond that.

Deliberately making things like the Ebony and Crimson Stones would be a complete perversion of the true goal of Alchemy, which is ultimately about spiritual enlightenment and becoming closer to God.

So Mathias deliberately using the power of the Crimson Stone to spite God is him thinking he's achieved some kind of enlightenment — ie that God is a jerk to be opposed — when in fact he's fallen hard. As a result, Mathia's path ultimately leads him to centuries of a miserable cursed existence until his final death and reincarnation as Soma Cruz.

Edited by M84 on Oct 22nd 2021 at 11:54:07 PM

Over on FFN, Shanoa has 36 tags. Trevor and Sypha got a huge popularity boost from the animated series, but Alucard still takes the cake as most popular, followed by Dracula, Maria, Lisa, Soma, and Richter.

Poor Christopher Belmont only has 1 tag.

I'm surprised people even remember Chris Belmont enough at all for him to get at least one tag. That's a deep cut.

Soleiyu has 1 tag too. The Belmont family tree seems to be missing a couple branches; we dunno who Christopher's parents are, among others.

So after beating Reinhart's campaign, Matt and Liam continue playing the game with Carrie:

They are right that Carrie just doesn't get referenced at all after her game. We mostly know why: IGA ran the show and seemed to only care for Cornell.

Shame too. I still think it'd be interesting to see how her moveset could evolve if she'd gotten a few more games.

Though it's funny that she's a slightly weaker version of Sega Saturn SOTN Maria, but mostly with the energy blasts (and they both wear green too).

Yeah. Carrie was an interesting character and seeing her gone is just sad

Imagine if she made it into Grimoire of Souls. Seeing her and Maria bounce off each other since they are so different despite filling the same niche and having similar backgrounds (extremely young Vampire Hunters who lost their parents).

Plus, it'd be great to get a bit more out of her character as well.

Yeah. Or any 3D era character.

Or even Gabriel. Just have Lucy claim something's gone really fucky to bring the Lords of Shadow verse into the main one.

Oh so the pretty boy half vampire sad boy is the most popular on AO 3? No way you're pulling my leg this is my shocked face.

I am of course joking by the by, but some of those stats are interesting.

Poor Christopher Belmont, greatest of all Belmonts due to his Given Name... F. F my kindred spirit.

Yeah, it's weird Cornell was kept as canon. CV 64's state in the timeline is dubious as heck.

I think IGA just liked Cornell.

And it's dubiousness is apparently due to the team who made it not including him. Though I don't know why it (and Circle of the Moon for that matter) can't fit.

For some reason, Orderof Ecclesia has no specific date beyond (1800s), but I thought it made complete sense that after the Belmonts noped out of sight, every Dracula cultist worth his salt started jumping at the chance to revive him, what with it being the century with no Vampire Killer (or Belmonts....who are named Belmont that is).

In fact, I can buy this being the time where Drac had the most revivals due to the Belmonts being MIA, and all three games in that era (OOE, COTM and 64/LOD) can easily be spaced out to have some down time. Hell, there's already about twenty years between COTM and LOD, and another 8 between LOD and base 64). and like, the time between Dracula's Curse and Curse of Darkness was even shorter (a mere three years), so it's not like there needs to be a specific amount of time before you can tell Drac to wake the hell up.

Carrie and Reinhart just didn't click with him but Cornell seemed to liked well enough that they used him in judgement.

Considering what they did with Maria, having her in the roster probably wouldn't have done her any favors. Though why the kid roster had to have Eric of all people is a question for the ages. Kid Drac or Charlotte could've been better alternatives.

When did Portrait of Ruin come out, and when did Judgement come out?

That might explain why they didn't use Charlotte?

Or maybe they just wanted to do a wild card choice, by using a version of Eric younger than how he was actually portrayed in his debut game.

Portrait of Ruin was 2006, Judgement was late 2008.

Ah. Ok then. They could have used Charlotte.

I guess they just wanted a young boy as a counter to Maria, but all the really young characters in Castlevania are girls, so....

Perhaps because Eric had only been in two games (and at two different ages at that) they felt he was both obscure enough to mess with a bit, but also decided it would work with him because we'd seen him as a young man and an older father, so they churned out something different by making him a kid.

They did at least give Eric some retroactive Character Development.

The Eric of Judgement is a bitter youth resentful of literally being The Lancer to the Morrises (and by extension the Belmonts). We've seen how bad this can go in previous entries in the series. The events of Judgement however help Eric to get over it by the time of Bloodlines.

Maria though...I got nothin'.

Edited by M84 on Oct 24th 2021 at 10:19:26 PM

I'm still amused that they gave Eric the same actress as Charlotte.

I mean Maria is just exactly the way she was in her original Castlevania portrayal.

But basically they had two whip guys so they couldn't include any more whip guys and that eliminated a bunch of protagonists already.

The obsession with breast size was an unwelcome addition to her characterization in Judgement.

Goddamnit, I just remembered her interaction with Sypha.

Yeah she's not good at all in Judgement.

I mean, it was Humor Mode and not to be taken seriously. Someone had to be the source of comic relief.

Maria does lend herself to that more than most other characters.

Like, she provided a lot of the humour in Rondo by sheer virtue of how out of place she was in a series that had been kinda dark before then. That and still being able to shit stomp every monster she went up against.

But it's not something that was in previous games with her (thank goodness). So I don't see how she was "exactly the way she was in her original Castlevania portrayal."