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#1: Oct 22nd 2010 at 9:11:22 AM

The stuff discussed in the trope is already covered more or less by Hit-and-Run Tactics (though it's currently worded for "big, strong enemy versus lone tiny player character", it can be expanded to cover "mass mob kiting"). Unless I'm missing something, I'm probably going to cutlist Fishing for Mooks.

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#3: Oct 22nd 2010 at 9:33:22 AM

How? Doesn't it involve the same tactics? (Get aggro, run like mad, kill; lather, rinse, repeat.)

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#4: Oct 22nd 2010 at 9:56:24 AM

Fishing for Mooks doesn't necessarily imply running away. I can speak from personal experience in World Of Warcraft that catching a trash mob is different from than kiting. For one, the tank tended to stay put and attack from range as the mob came closer.

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#5: Oct 22nd 2010 at 1:57:26 PM

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This is different from Hit-and-Run Tactics... I should know, I designed that one too. Hit-and-Run Tactics involves running away from an oncoming foe while shooting at it, whether you have to stop to shoot or not. Fishing for Mooks means luring an opponent away from a large mob and picking them off away from assistance, and then repeating until all are gone.

Does this clear up the difference?

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#6: Oct 22nd 2010 at 5:07:30 PM

Pulling and Kiting are not related at all. Pulling is if you want to take one mob out of the herd, and isolate it. Think cattle rustling.

Kiting is attracting a mob's attention, then trying to stay out of it's sights as you(or teammates) stab it in passing. Think Bullfighting.

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#7: Oct 22nd 2010 at 5:40:21 PM

Shouldn't these be rewritten as less as "You do this in a video game" and more "In a story, the main character does this" with a note that it's also used by players in video games?

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#8: Oct 22nd 2010 at 6:34:36 PM

That's a good point. Short of actual mechanics of the medium, there's very little that needs to be medium specific.

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#9: Oct 22nd 2010 at 7:12:24 PM

Specially because it is sort of a famous tactics. If I am not mistaken, Miyamoto Musashi talked about that in his book.

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#10: Oct 22nd 2010 at 11:46:03 PM

Fishing for Mooks is an abuse of enemy AI. This makes it pretty much a Videogame Trope, unless the mooks are unusually stupid.

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#11: Oct 22nd 2010 at 11:54:42 PM

It's possible to do it a little bit in movies. You know, when they make a noise so that one of the mooks comes over and checks it out, they take him out. It doesn't work a lot but it works on occasion.

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#12: Oct 23rd 2010 at 9:36:19 AM

The "mooks get taken out when investigating a strange noise" is probably already being covered by The Guards Must Be Crazy and Throwing the Distraction, though.

edited 23rd Oct '10 9:36:36 AM by dotchan

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#13: Oct 23rd 2010 at 1:59:26 PM

Hmm...

The trope is supposed to refer specifically to luring enemies away from a group by abusing their AI. Hence "Fishing For Mooks" not a distraction related name.

Perhaps a subtrope of something?

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#14: Oct 23rd 2010 at 2:11:30 PM

One of the things that follow the 'distracted by a sound' thing can be sneaking up behind them and taking them out. The new Shattered Dimension Spider-Man game makes Fishing for Mooks a mechanic of gameplay (Noir!Spidey fights by picking off mooks one by one.)

Meaning in non-game examples Spider-Man and Batman would both be pretty good example picks, from the start. As they both (more Bats than Spidey) will try to finish mooks off with the least amount of strife.

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