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#126: Nov 29th 2023 at 10:03:07 AM

As discussed, I definitely think we shouldn't be casting judgement (at least, outside of WMG). Monty killing Bonnie isn't confirmed, it's just hinted at.

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CatcherInTheWry Since: Feb, 2015
#127: Nov 29th 2023 at 8:22:31 PM

Yes. Again, how do we form an official consensus before taking action? At the very least I'm going to remove the various statements about how "nothing points to Monty's innocence" in those are definitely untrue no matter what. I'll await more replies before going further.

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#128: Nov 30th 2023 at 7:30:13 AM

My reply is: Just wait and see.

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#129: Dec 1st 2023 at 12:10:17 AM

Maybe we should just wait to see if any evidence pointing either way comes out.

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#130: Dec 14th 2023 at 2:18:13 PM

So Help Wanted 2...looks like it's clearing some things up. But I'll wait a bit more on that.

In the meantime wanted to handle this thing on the Mimic's sheet.

  • Decomposite Character: Maybe. While the way it's described in the books suggests it's Burntrap, the game versions of both characters bear little resemblance to each other. As such, at the moment it's impossible to tell if the game versions of The Mimic and Burntrap are meant to be the same character or two separate ones

The resemblance thing is explained within Tales. The Mimic can shift it's parts to look totally different. It turns itself into a spider at one point. We see this ability in Ruin itself, people have pointed out that the Endo in the costumed version of the Mimic looks totally different then the normal Mimic.

Edited by Snoketrope on Dec 14th 2023 at 2:18:29 AM

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#131: Dec 14th 2023 at 2:43:51 PM

Isn't that the whole reason why we have this thread in the first place? Plus, Never Trust a Trailer.

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#132: Dec 14th 2023 at 2:44:49 PM

What I'm saying is that we shouldn't really be saying things like "Maybe" or "at the moment" before the game is fully released. Once the game is released, then we can start applying if they are decomposites or not.

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#133: Dec 14th 2023 at 6:51:14 PM

What?

If you mean HW 2, the game has already come out. It gives some pretty firm answers so far. The Maskbot ending makes it pretty explicit that Glitchtrap is in fact the Mimic in case there was any remaining doubts. I was just waiting a day or so to talk on that in case any Easter eggs were going to come.

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CatcherInTheWry Since: Feb, 2015
#134: Dec 15th 2023 at 10:25:35 AM

I dunno. The whole reason people are saying the mimic randomly stopped emulating glitchtrap was because the princess quest arcades were beaten, but help wanted shows Glitchtrap as himself

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#135: Dec 15th 2023 at 11:18:08 AM

I never believed that. It always relied on the 'Strand' interpretation of the Mimic where there are a bunch of different kinds connected to it but Tiger Rock displayed it's more that the Mimic's mind morphs into multiple things. I always thought that we were just seeing him at a point where he wasn't mimicking William.

Plus one thing Glitchtrap does is emulate Tape Girls voice. That's the whole strategy he uses to trick Vanessa. So the Mimic is actually acting like Glitchtrap.

And of course, Help Wanted 2 has more or less ended the debate with the Maskbot ending. So that's some stress off of our lives.

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FirstAidRules First Aid Rules from House Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Singularity
#136: Dec 15th 2023 at 5:07:31 PM

So, what happens when the next game comes out and complicates things again?

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#137: Dec 15th 2023 at 5:09:34 PM

Plus, the page for Help Wanted 2 says that the Golden Ending is "possibly" and not really confirmed.

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#138: Dec 15th 2023 at 5:16:43 PM

If it does, we can just talk about it then

Like should we just not trope any revelation or thing that happens because 'oh next game might complicate it'.

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CatcherInTheWry Since: Feb, 2015
#139: Dec 19th 2023 at 6:38:48 PM

You do have a point, and I'm more supportive of Mimictrap then I was before HW 2 came out, but there's just no easy answer.

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#140: Dec 19th 2023 at 7:44:06 PM

I figured the easy answer was just to do it sense...Well I suppose to me HW 2 just went out of its way to end any ambiguity to me. We go from Glitchtrap appearing out of the charging station to the scene where Maskbot implants Cassie with Helpi / The Mimic. And the ending is called 'Helptrap'. It just feels...to me like we keep saying to wait despite the answer being fairly clear at this point.

If we still want to have a compromise, how about just for now, we keep it as it is, just have the Glitchtrap and Burntrap stuff off of William's page while discussing how its heavily indicated that Glitchtrap is the Mimic on the sheets?

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CatcherInTheWry Since: Feb, 2015
#141: Dec 21st 2023 at 11:50:07 AM

I guess that's OK. What does everyone else think? Also guys Snoketrope and I've been talking and there actually is some evidance that Bonnie may have been still around during the events of the Storyteller, which means there's no proof in Tales or otherwise that if Monty destroyed Bonnie, it was before being hacked. Can we get rid of the entries saying so?

FirstAidRules First Aid Rules from House Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: Singularity
#142: Dec 21st 2023 at 12:01:55 PM

Yeah, go ahead and get rid of the Monty stuff. As for the whole wait thing, the Nightmare Fuel page for Security Breach 2 says this: The main ending. There are several endings to the game, but this one both establishes where the game sits in the timeline, and gives the fans more questions.

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