Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
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Did those Final Fantasy pages ever get made?
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- Star Trek The Next Generation William Thomas Riker (26,564 bytes)
- Star Trek The Next Generation Deanna Troi (21,775 bytes)
- Star Trek The Next Generation Miles Edward O Brien (15,468 bytes)
- Star Trek The Next Generation Worf (38,624 bytes)
- Star Trek: Voyager - Seven of Nine (36,159 bytes)
These do also cover their tropes from multiple series. So I don't know if we want to keep because of that. Thoughts?
Edited by Bullman on Sep 25th 2021 at 12:14:11 PM
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Also both Candace and Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb are both big enough at 49,633 bytes and 43,569 bytes respectively. I am unsure if they are needed yet, but I could make both if you guys are okay with it.
Also Gellert Grindelwald is big enough at 46,522 bytes so I am thinking of giving him a page.
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Just merge all those back to where they were originally if the original pages aren't long with them... None of them are even close to meeting the byte requirement and if the original pages are going to have the "Too long" warning we can keep Worf and Seven of Nine. Because they have tropes from multiple series just put them all under one folder
That's fine with me. Not too large but meets the byte requirement... if you feel the need to or desire to go ahead but keep in mind if you do the only character left on Phineas and Ferb: Main Characters will be Perry
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Actually, the duo themselves should be good to stay on the page if Bull's assessment is accurate
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Yeah. The duo themselves aren't big enough.
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Oh my bad, thought that the duo already had their own pages. Yeah go ahead with Candace and Doofenshmirtz if you want
she/her
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Okay. I will merge the Star Trek ones later.
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Lord.
The minimum number of bytes required in order for an individual character page to be created is 40,000 bytes. However, the number of folders that catalogue the alphabetisation of the tropes present in each of these character pages varies. Is there a sort of threshold to facilitate this, like say, if a character page has 40K bytes then 3 folders is sufficient, if it's 50K then 4 folders, etc?
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No. I normally just try to keep it to 2 or 3 if it's under 50,000, sometimes 4 if it's 49,000. If it's over 50,000 then it varies. However, there is no set number. Some don't even have folders.
Also the Star Trek stuff as I am a bit busy right now and won't be able to do it today. So if I don't get it done someone else feel free to merge them.
Edited by Bullman on Sep 25th 2021 at 3:18:00 AM
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Also I am thinking of giving Toph a page. She is at 60,110 bytes. Thoughts?
Edited by Bullman on Sep 25th 2021 at 3:36:42 AM
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Yeah go for it for Toph
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小柏 カイ
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Don't forget to add him to Video Games. And his bite count to Character Specific Pages Byte Check.
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Both done. Noctis and Ardyn are now on my list.
Edited by RinneSharinganCatalyst on Sep 27th 2021 at 8:19:13 AM
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
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And looks like I'll have to message the mod doing the edits on the Main Character sheet to add in the Sephiroth section on the Navigation sheet since it's locked.
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
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I just did that on the locked pages thread.
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Thanks I appreciate it.
Over 900 years, he shall recover his heartbeat. Over 90 years, he shall recover his intellect. Over 9 years, he shall recover his power.
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No problem. Happy to help.
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Also both Archie and Cheryl from Riverdale are big enough (43,085 and 45,813 bytes rspectively) and taking up most of the page. Anyone mind if I make pages for them?
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Also before I merge the Star Trek, Seven of Nine appears in the upcoming Picard season. Do we want to wait for that?
Edited by Bullman on Sep 28th 2021 at 8:52:56 AM
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Go ahead
I'd say leave it then. It'll most likely cross the 40,000 bytes if there's an upcoming season, as it's not that far from the cutoff at the moment
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Okay I made the Riverdale pages, and I will take care of the Star Trek stuff tomorrow.
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I wasn't sure where to post it so i made a post in Ask the Tropers but if you could take a look at https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/query.php?parent_id=104471&type=att
this that would be great. Its regarding character information templates.
It's gonna be fun on the bun!