The Falcon and the Winter Soldier

I thought we weren't talking about Secret Invasion?

But given real!Rhodey couldn't walk he almost certainly wasn't a skrull in Iron Man 3. (and hopefully none of his other appearances either)

Edited by dcutter2 on Oct 2nd 2023 at 7:39:34 PM

Variety has announced that The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and Moon Knight are gonna be on physical April 30. Both are labeled as the first season in the article picture. Take that as you will.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/andor-moon-knight-obi-wan-kenobi-falcon-winter-soldier-4k-blu-ray-1235930078/

Paramount and Disney have been releasing their streaming shows on DVD.

And you know what...good.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 5th 2024 at 7:39:59 AM

About time.

I personally hate optical disks. I wish physical media meant anything else.

It is hot on the heels of them having done the same with WandaVision.

I think they should just release every Disney + original to physical media eventually. Leave a lag time to encourage people to sign up to the service, sure, but I think there's enough of an audience to justify it.

I think their problem is the opposite. Disney+ (and streaming in general) eats the overall desire for physical releases.

It costs money to print and distribute Blu-Rays, and if they don't sell, that's just sunk money. It costs nothing to put things on D+ and even if people don't watch it, it's still a selling point. And people are just spoiled by streaming in general. A decent chunk of the population either doesn't have access to or knowledge of Blu-Ray players. Can't watch a Blu-Ray on your phone.

I mean that's what Disney THOUGHT would happen but they instead lost massive amounts of money.

Streaming seems to be the live service model of gaming.

It's a lot more expensive to put shows up and subscription than the profit generator assumed it would be.

I don't think those are mutually exclusive. Streaming is hard to make money on... doesn't make physical releases any easier to make money on either.

The fact is the climate has indelibly changed and while there isn't a simple solution, "spend more money on an outdated format" absolutely isn't a slam dunk.

Eh, there's a good argument that you pay one month for streaming for 14 dollars and then someone might buy similar for 4-5 DV Ds of movies they could watch and own.

Disney didn't do that math.

... what? I genuinely can't understand the math you're even trying to put forward.

But the thing is that yes, it's hard to make money via streaming. Disney knows this. They also know the cat's out of the bag on streaming. We would absolutely be mocking Disney for being behind the times for relying on physical sales in this day and age because it's just not as viable as it once was.

The math is that paying $14 for a month streaming service you can watch dozens of shows and movies on any device is an easier sell paying $20 for a movie you can only watch on your TV.

Edited by Larkmarn on Mar 6th 2024 at 2:54:50 PM

The streaming issue is simply that there's too much competition. Disney+ and other subscription streamers started off with insanely low prices, the idea being to lure in a lot of subscribers right out the gate, and once their subscriber base becomes big enough it will be able to turn a profit and/or be brand loyal enough that they can raise prices and still keep them subscribing.

But so many subscription streaming services launched within the span of a few years, that hasn't worked out for most of them. None of them can get enough subscribers to keep their prices low and still be profitable, and raising prices brings immense backlash from customers who'll jump ship to one of the other services that hasn't raised prices yet.

What I'm saying is that plenty of people who are subscribed to Disney+ will still buy DV Ds of the shows on Disney+ just to own them, especially if they have Special Features. Not putting them out is wasted money.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Mar 6th 2024 at 12:46:14 PM

I think putting them out would let them reach a wider audience. I am pretty sure there are some people that still don't know that Disney Plus exists, and not everyone knows that Disney owns Marvel. Selling DV Ds in the supermarket is potential advertising. Like if they did that with Ms. Marvel before the Marvels came out, it might have helped the movie.

Paramount+ has benefited.

I buy my friends who don't have regular internet copies of Tulsa King, Mayor of Kingstown, and Lower Decks.

Optical disks are just a little too delicate. I almost prefer VCR... If it weren't for the fact that VCR tape is also very delicate. Why is physical media so easy to accidentally ruin?

Can we go back to insertable cartridges?

They were always failing and being easily dusted up or ruined.