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Update: Ambiguous Disorder has been renamed to Diagnosed by the Audience and has been retooled into an Audience Reaction for when the audience diagnoses a character with a disorder (i.e., it was redefined to fit some of the misuse), as opposed to a disorder being specified by either the work or Diagnosis of God. The decision was made by this TRS thread.

  • Examples (both on-page and off-page) that fit the retooled the definition need to be moved to a YMMV subpage under the new name
  • Examples where the narrative or characters think a character has a disorder (i.e. in-universe ambiguity) may be placed in this sandbox: Sandbox.Ambiguous Disorder
  • Anything else that doesn't fit needs to be removed

Edited by Tabs on Oct 4th 2022 at 2:19:02 AM

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#301: Mar 3rd 2024 at 8:45:09 AM

Yes. I've seen people reading the "different" line as that and/or Trans Audience Interpretation.

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#303: Apr 2nd 2024 at 1:16:41 AM

I wouldn't really call that a "disorder," especially since, IIRC, the theory posits that it's a deeply repressed but very common sentiment.

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TheGrayFox ...Phenomenal from A Lovecraftian fishing village Since: Sep, 2011
...Phenomenal
#304: Apr 2nd 2024 at 1:43:14 AM

Also, isn't Diagnosed by the Audience typically for situations where the character shows some or all of the behaviors associated with the condition? Because Oedipus actually doesn't behave in line with the complex named after him: killing his dad and marrying his mom was entirely unintentional and in fact the one outcome he explicitly 100% did not want.

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maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#305: Apr 2nd 2024 at 4:30:14 AM

Indeed, Freud was famously off the mark when he named it, to the point where Oedipus not actually having an Oedipus Complex is practically a meme, but even more so with naming the Distaff Counterpart after Electra (Electra and her brother murdered their mother in revenge for their father's murder).

My line of thought was that it's a psychiatrist identifying signs of a diagnosis, albeit in this case signs that don't actually exist.

Edited by maxwellsilver on Apr 2nd 2024 at 7:39:19 AM

mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#306: Apr 2nd 2024 at 8:51:11 PM

I don't think it counts because Oedipus complex is a theory, not classified as a disorder. In fact I believe Freud posited it as something most people have, but repress, as opposed to a deviation from the norm.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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