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- If you are interested in Crafting, maybe try ordering a craft kit online (something substantial that would take time would be best, like a Latch hook kit
(and crochet hook if you don’t have one), a potholder loom and cotton loops, or cross stitch kit), to work on.
- learn something physical, like an instrument, how to sew or knit, etc
- a lot of museums and zoos and the like are doing virtual tours or free online classes, so keep an eye out for that as well.
- do a giant puzzle
- Join an online bookclub
- Take an online class
While the outbreak started around New Year's Day (12/31), it's picking up steam around the Asia-Pacific region especially since Mainland Chinese people tend to travel a lot.
For reference, the BNO Newsroom twitter has a special feed for any info on the coronavirus:
https://twitter.com/bnodesk?lang=en
The WHO has page about COVID-19 and any other concerns people may have. I suggest peeps go to the Q&A page to check for official details.
https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
Edited by nombretomado on Jun 3rd 2020 at 3:21:48 AM
A procrastination in of itself
CNBC have partially fabricated the story. He did NOT say that people will need a vaccinate every 12 months, here’s the key quotes.
He’s talking about a specific hypothetical and broad planning for different possibilities. Please read article in full and don’t just post headlines, it’s dangerous and you can’t trust most media organisations to accurately represent statements in their headlines.
Edited by Silasw on Apr 16th 2021 at 8:42:41 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Redmess
I agree we could stand to care a little less about what Americans do, but such is the world we live in.
Optimism is a duty.
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You can take painkillers to help with side effects.
Boosters should be able to be combined with seasonal flu shots in the future, at least.
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
Sure, but that’s not what happening here? America isn’t actually taking away that vaccine, people are just using Americans as an unrelated scapegoat. (Probably not the best word but I just woke up.)
My own thinking is that many countries rely on others' health agencies for advice on whether to approve a vaccine or not. So if you have one health agency delaying a vaccine for frivolous reasons, it has a knock-on effect that goes farther than just that polity.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Since the quote came from an anti-vaxxer I am sure it this not at all what he meant and South Korea is pretty well off, but it is worth caring about how and when Americans are vaccinating compared to everyone else.
It's not news that high-income countries are overwhelmingly buying up the vaccine supply, and it is these high-income countries that can more feasibly afford the cold chain logistics for the mRNA vaccines. So as someone who grew up a developing country I definitely see where "how come Americans get the Pfizer shot?" comes from.
[...]
"In the second half of this year, we'll see the conversation change to, ‘okay, how can we help the developing world get their hands on mRNA vaccines,’” Singh said of countries like the United States, which has pledged to do so.
[...] But poorer countries will likely still have to rely on the vaccines from J&J, Astra Zeneca and others from China and Russia that unlike the mRNA shots can be stored in a standard refrigerator, making them a better option for rural and hard to reach areas.
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 16th 2021 at 9:34:21 AM
In Manila, the vaccines from Pfizer are delayed and it's got a lot of Sinovac.
Guilty thing is that private sector is doing the shipment of Moderna 'cause Duterte. And that I'm suppose to get it as an employee. But I don't work for my dad's company...
Never mind that I previously mentiond that I'll likely have to take Sinovac in case Moderna gets delayed/or is shipped by early June.
Edited by Ominae on Apr 16th 2021 at 8:13:46 AM
Yeah, local governments in the Philippines are only beginning to roll out Sinovac jabs for those with comorbidities. My dad got the first stick a couple of weeks ago. My younger sister expects be vaccinated in 202something.
That's actually another reason to ask "how come Americans get the Pfizer shot?" as vaccine rollouts in Asia are informed by China's "vaccine diplomacy". These vaccines have a lower effectivity, so they are widely perceived as inferior to the mRNA vacs.
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 16th 2021 at 9:44:18 AM
Cringe but free
The developed world voting against waiving the IP rights for vaccine manufacture in developing countries sure made for a windfall for Chinese vaccine diplomacy, huh.
A procrastination in of itself
It’s not just that, according to Wikipedia.
So the Oxford Vaccine at least was planned to just be given to the world for anyone relevant to manufacture and use. It seems to have been the cost of actually getting it to market (which includes the running of trials) that meant Oxford has to partner with someone and thus scrap the plan.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
Here's a long piece on Bill Gates's history of interference in public health, for those curious. Relevant 'rona bits:
Crucially, the companies retain exclusive rights to their intellectual property. If they stray from the Gates Foundation line on exclusive rights, they are quickly brought to heel. When the director of Oxford’s Jenner Institute had funny ideas about placing the rights to its COVAX-supported vaccine candidate in the public domain, Gates intervened. As reported by Kaiser Health News, “A few weeks later, Oxford—urged on by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation—reversed course [and] signed an exclusive vaccine deal with Astra Zeneca that gave the pharmaceutical giant sole rights and no guarantee of low prices.” [...] “If you said to an ordinary person, ‘We’re in a pandemic. Let’s figure out everyone who can make vaccines and give them everything they need to get online as fast as possible,’ it would be a no-brainer,” says James Love. “But Gates won’t go there. Neither will the people dependent on his funding. He has immense power. He can get you fired from a U.N. job. He knows that if you want to work in global public health, you’d better not make an enemy of the Gates Foundation by questioning its positions on I.P. and monopolies. And there are a lot of advantages to being on his team. It’s a sweet, comfortable ride for a lot of people.”
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 16th 2021 at 12:18:06 PM
Fuck Bill Gates.
Best Ogre
There's something just so... unsurprising about all that, even or perhaps especially with how hard he tries to cultivate a philanthropist's image.
SoundCloud
Yeah. Gates is often used as an example of a 'benevolent billionaire'.
Totally ironic that the conspiracy theorists are spouting "Bill Gates microchip vaccine" stuff when this is right in the open.
Edited by Synchronicity on Apr 16th 2021 at 12:19:31 PM
Lost in Space
As an aside, Gates has had disparaging things to say about electric vehicles, which would be bad enough in general but is particularly problematic given how much influence he has.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
Redmess
Bill gates is a bad guy now? Or rather, again?
Is he going to be cancelled now?
Optimism is a duty.
Best Ogre
Both "now" and "again" imply a period when he wasn't. Not that anyone has the power or position to cancel him anyways.
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
>Cancel
And my blood pressure rises.
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Oh, bother.
Yeah, I also find mentions of "cancel culture" kind of irritating. Because it's not really a new thing.
Disgusted, but not surprised
Redmess
Well, what do you want to call it then?
And I'm not a fan of dropping words just because the alt right appropriates them. They will always do that, and we can't just let them steal all our words and turn them bad.
And I remember a time when Bill Gates was practically viewed as the Antichrist for being the head of Microsoft. Sentiment seems to have mellowed on that considerably since he left Microsoft and became a philantropist, so yes, there was a time when he wasn't the go to bad guy.
Optimism is a duty.
Don't want to leave but cannot pretend
I am TOTALLY in favor of not using language created and perpetuated by shitheads. “SJW”, calling things “gay” or “retarded” in a pejorative sense, I have no problem burning these words from my dictionary. This is just more of the same: the word does nothing but try to make normal, everyday reactions sound nefarious and evil.
Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 16th 2021 at 11:43:52 AM
Trans rights are human rights. TV Tropes is not a place for bigotry, cruelty, or dickishness, no matter who or their position.
Redmess
But the underlying trend of cancel culture, namely to ostracize people whose view one does not like, specifically by progressives, is a real thing, so what do we call it, then, if not cancel culture?
Optimism is a duty.
Lost in Space
We call it "suffering actual consequences for being a complete dick blister."
Edited by Fighteer on Apr 16th 2021 at 3:16:59 PM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I wouldn't say cancel culture is used specifically by progressives.
I've been expecting as much re: annual boosters from the very start of this, honestly. I hate needles but you just gotta suck it up sometimes.
Kind of getting tired of my arm still being sore to the touch, though. It's improved a lot from the worst period on Tuesday (I got my first dose on Monday, as I think I said), but my family all said theirs entirely stopped hurting after a day so I'm feeling a bit impatient. All other side-effects didn't last long, at least.
Edited by nrjxll on Apr 15th 2021 at 1:47:17 PM