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#1776: Mar 10th 2021 at 5:03:37 AM

[up][up]America first and the nazis have always had a proud connection after all.

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#1777: Mar 10th 2021 at 5:24:32 AM

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It's because those chucklefucks have no understanding of how anything works.

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#1778: Mar 10th 2021 at 5:26:50 AM

Kennedy gets a weirdly large amount of flake when most of the big writing goofs come from JJ, teerio, etc.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1779: Mar 10th 2021 at 5:33:53 AM

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There's a not really surprising reason for that and you can probably guess it. :|

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BOOXMOWO Since: Mar, 2013
#1780: Mar 10th 2021 at 6:47:41 AM

Yeah, if you want to talk about a Double Standard, look at how Kennedy is apparently responsible for all of Disney Star Wars' failures but none of its successes.

It is in general dumb when The Fandom Menace tries to pit Kennedy and Filoni against each other as if Kennedy wasn't the one who decided to put Filoni in charge of Star Wars' first live action series, but suggesting that Filoni should have Kennedy's job... a job that, according to them, does not include any creative control over the Mandalorian...?

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#1781: Mar 10th 2021 at 6:58:09 AM

That said, it's pretty useful to screen out Youtube channels where I find a video talking about the civil war between Kennedy and F&F.

Kinda like how if I find a video praising The Last Jedi I can pretty safely assume the channel isn't some kind of regressive alt-lite miasmanote 

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Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#1782: Mar 10th 2021 at 7:01:19 AM

The Fandom Menace greatly misunderstands what a CEO does, because Lucas, as CEO, was also heavily involved in creative. That is not normal. That's like expecting Bob Chapek to personally oversee every Marvel movie.

The only real mistake I lay at Kennedy's feet is not forcing Abrams and Terrio to consult the Story Group, and I still don't blame her entirely for that, since, why wouldn't they? Everyone else did.

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#1783: Mar 10th 2021 at 8:00:46 AM

Yeah, Kennedy is in charge of Star Wars, but only in terms of what projects get done.

Abrams and Jonson had control of all of the stuff of the sequel trilogy. They signed off on the writing and all the other stuff. The way the sequel trilogy was entirely their fault.

But another thing for Carano vs Pascal: Not only did Pascal not make a habit of tweeting stupid shit, he also didn't refuse to stop like Carano did. Pascal compared the alt-right to the Nazis once. Carano has come out against face-masks, tweeted her support of the Capitol rioters, and then compared Republicans to Jews during the Holocaust.

Edited by theLibrarian on Mar 10th 2021 at 10:03:16 AM

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#1784: Mar 10th 2021 at 8:09:21 AM

But they both said the word Nazi so the situations are exactly the same. And we all know that Nazi is arguably more offensive than the N-word, according to that guy who got himself banned a couple weeks back.

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#1785: Mar 10th 2021 at 9:01:37 AM

My apologies if this has been posted already.

Some Mandalorian Books Have Been Canceled, But Not for the Reason You Think

Fans looking forward to the universe of The Mandalorian expanding in print are going to be disappointed, as two future books centered on the Disney+ Star Wars franchise have been cancelled. But it’s not for the reason you think.

The news first broke when DK Books tweeted that “Due to the ever-expanding world of The Mandalorian, we will no longer be publishing The Mandalorian Ultimate Visual Guide at this time, as the story continues to unfold on screen.” That book was set to be written by Lucasfilm’s Pablo Hidalgo. A minute later, Del Rey tweeted that “Due to the ever-expanding world of The Mandalorian, we will no longer be publishing THE MANDALORIAN ORIGINAL NOVEL at this time, as the story continues to unfold on screen.”

Del Rey followed up its tweet by saying “We love working with author Adam Christopher and are already working with him on a different book. We’re excited to share details with you in the future.”

These books were originally announced in June 2020 along with a few others, including Phil Szostak’s season one Art of The Mandalorian, which was released in December. Since then, Christopher’s original novel was moved from a December 2020 release to a fall 2021 release before this latest development. In response, Christopher himself merely retweeted those tweets and offered no further commentary. Hidalgo’s tweets are protected.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1786: Mar 10th 2021 at 9:06:48 AM

That's... interesting.

It looks like the books were cancelled because the planned stories no longer line up to the canon of the series. Maybe they involved Din and Grogu still adventuring together, or created an event occurring after Grogu left that isn't in line with what they've now decided Season 3 will be about.

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#1787: Mar 10th 2021 at 9:16:00 AM

So we're now exercising more actual control so these eu works don't clash with the main stuff.

Thank God after the st stuff made a complete mess of stuff like that.

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#1788: Mar 10th 2021 at 9:53:11 AM

Yeah this is... great.

Hell, I hate to be "that guy" but I wish the sequel trilogy had someone actively trying to keep the stories aligned.

... that said, genuinely curious as to the "reason you think." I assume it has to do with Carano but they know I know that books don't have actors, right?

[down] Fine. "Succeeding in trying to keep the stories aligned."

Edited by Larkmarn on Mar 10th 2021 at 1:04:33 PM

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ShadowWingLG Since: Dec, 2013
#1789: Mar 10th 2021 at 9:57:31 AM

They did, they had a Lucasfilm staffed Creative Story Team that was advising the films. JJ pretty much ignored them for Rise of Skywalker. One can guess they took one look at his first pitches and went "Uh...no...."

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1790: Mar 10th 2021 at 10:11:54 AM

I'm still not a big fan of the ST but I think continuing to hate Kennedy is absurd. It's over. I think it sucked but let's just move on. The Mandalorian is great, Jedi Fallen Order was good, The High Republic has been awesome. The future of Star Wars is looking up.

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#1791: Mar 10th 2021 at 10:19:27 AM

I don't care for the ST as a whole and yet paradoxically I'm probably at the height of my SW excitement since I was buying Action Fleet vehicles at K-Mart as a kid.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#1792: Mar 10th 2021 at 10:25:03 AM

So we're now exercising more actual control so these eu works don't clash with the main stuff.

To be fair, Disney's always exercised this level of control on the EU stuff. It's just that they had a huge blind spot where the films were concerned and didn't hold them to the same level of scrutiny that they did everything else.

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#1793: Mar 10th 2021 at 10:28:41 AM

Which just sounds like something that would come back to bite them in the ass.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1794: Mar 10th 2021 at 10:47:28 AM

[up][up][up]Same. This is probably the most excited I've been about Star Wars in years. Maybe since the lead up to the ST?

JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#1795: Mar 10th 2021 at 1:54:50 PM

"So we're now exercising more actual control so these eu works don't clash with the main stuff.

Thank God after the st stuff made a complete mess of stuff like that."

A little off-topic but, From what I've heard in Legends there were 5 different stories of how the Rebels stole the Death Star plans.

Anyway, for now Lucasfilm has managed to maintain a continuity with few contradictions.

Edited by JoLuRo075 on Mar 10th 2021 at 2:02:43 AM

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#1796: Mar 10th 2021 at 3:11:55 PM

I think they explained the Death Star plan thing by saying that each copy of the plans were incomplete because the Empire didn't want anyone figuring out what the deal with the Death Star was ahead of time.

In the new canon, we just had people asking about Bothans because they forgot which movie they were mentioned in.

Not Three Laws compliant.
Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1797: Mar 10th 2021 at 5:50:06 PM

[up][up] Oh, the old EU certainly had its problems and contradictions. No one is saying it didn't. But that was part of the justification that Disney gave for jettisoning Legends, so the fact that the early EU had similar problems was annoying.

Now that the ST is over, the writers for all the side projects are doing a much better job of coordinating with each, both on making sure events line up and making the ST look more thematically cohesive than it really was.

God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1798: Mar 10th 2021 at 10:13:23 PM

Just please don't bring back the Yuuzhan Vong.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1799: Mar 11th 2021 at 3:09:48 AM

I'm actually fine with some version of them coming back. I just want the next movie trilogy to be about an external threat that the entire galaxy has to unite against. Can we stop doing the Rebels vs Empire shit?

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#1800: Mar 11th 2021 at 3:21:15 AM

[up] Regardless of the form or even precise origins of the next bad guy, I definitely agree that Star Wars does need to break out of the Rebels verse Empire theme in the ST era.


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