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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#1751: Mar 7th 2021 at 3:13:37 PM

She violated her contract with her public conduct so her employer chose not to renew the contract. That's not cancel culture that's boring normal capatalism.

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1752: Mar 7th 2021 at 3:15:40 PM

And as I pointed out before, the people now whining about her losing that gig were the same people who complained about the character's existence before Carano let the mask slip.

If Carano had been a social justice advocate and fired for whatever reason, those same chucklefucks would have already started a circle jerk about how Disney's "finally cracking down on cultural Marxism".

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:17:38 PM

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#1753: Mar 7th 2021 at 6:09:31 PM

[up] No, they would have claimed it was Dave Filoni or somesuch forcing them to do it. Their whole narrative is basically identical to q-anon, thinking that there's some underdog "hero of the people" within the "corrupt, oppressive, leftist system" who is valiantly fighting to "take back control of the franchise" from the "evil SJW executives" like Kathleen Kennedy and all of Disney.

No, it doesn't make any sense. No, they don't care.

Edited by Dirtyblue929 on Mar 7th 2021 at 6:12:08 AM

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#1754: Mar 7th 2021 at 6:13:29 PM

On another note, do we know when season 3 is coming out?

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#1755: Mar 7th 2021 at 6:14:30 PM

I think it was announced to be the same time of year as the last two.

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#1756: Mar 8th 2021 at 12:14:25 AM

But with Boba Fett's series showing first, in the usual "slot" of the Mandalorian. So no more Din or Grogu until 2022 at least.

Edited by jakobitis on Mar 8th 2021 at 8:15:18 PM

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Whowho Since: May, 2012
#1757: Mar 8th 2021 at 4:28:01 AM

I think that's in the franchise's favour. Not having a new season of every series every year like clockwork might well avoid franchise fatigue.

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#1758: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:32:44 AM

Plus they might need time to figure out how to even make the show work after writing out its biggest draw.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1759: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:35:02 AM

ideaLuke has a premonition Grogu will die in his care, gives him back to Mando.

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#1760: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:44:46 AM

[up]A co-worker of mine was speculating that we might be getting a b-plot next season of Luke training Grogu. If that does end up being the case we might have Luke getting either a throat injury or infection to justify bringing Hamil in to dub Luke's lines instead of having to stitch them out of old audio files.

I'm wondering if Bo Katan will be the one to train Din in how to properly wield the darksaber. He may not want it, but I can see Bo insisting he learn how to wield it so he doesn't loose it to someone worse.

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#1761: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:48:24 AM

If we do get a B-plot about Grogu's training, they'll probably pass him off to another student or an assistant instructor or something to avoid having to use the digitally-reconstructed actor-puppet any more than they absolutely have to.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 8th 2021 at 6:53:06 AM

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#1762: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:52:52 AM

I suppose if Luke is off X-Winging across the galaxy picking up recruits personally, he must have some teaching assistants by now.

Edited by Larkmarn on Mar 8th 2021 at 9:53:08 AM

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#1763: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:53:13 AM

One way or another, it was a bold decision to have Din successfully find a Jedi to give Grogu too. Luke's arrival was a powerful moment that allowed the audience to feel how much it sucks that Jedi take children away from parents, but now they have to follow up with another season of the show.

And that's going to be hard because the lore pieces are there, sure. More stuff about Mandalore. Din using the Darksaber. Grogu training as a Jedi, maybe. But that's not the show's pull. The show's pull is that relationship the writers just severed. Din and Grogu became beloved characters because of what they mean to each other. There is now a void in the show's emotional core that the writers need to figure out how to fill.

The conclusion to season two has a sense of finality to it because the thing that people watch the show for has ended, even though all these other sequel hooks have been introduced. But it's not a finale; they need to convince people to come back. So I'm not surprised the next season isn't as simple as "Pump out another season from the Story Machine next year."

Edited by TobiasDrake on Mar 8th 2021 at 6:54:35 AM

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1764: Mar 8th 2021 at 9:30:44 AM

Luke's arrival was a powerful moment that allowed the audience to feel how much it sucks that Jedi take children away from parents, but now they have to follow up with another season of the show.

Oh dear, not this again. Luke didn't "take Grogu away from Din" - Grogu asked for Din's permission to go and only when Din gave it (because he legitimately think that being trained is what's the best for Grogu), he left with Luke.

Can we please put this myth to rest that Jedi are kidnappers who just take people's children willy-nilly? Because that's not actually a thing.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 8th 2021 at 6:31:02 PM

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#1765: Mar 8th 2021 at 9:39:38 AM

Can we please put this myth to rest that Jedi are kidnappers who just take people's children willy-nilly? Because that's not actually a thing.

No unfortunately. I don't think we ever will. It's too ingrained in both parts of the fandom, and casual types who know only the barebones of the jedi.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1766: Mar 8th 2021 at 9:42:20 AM

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Or who got all their information about Jedi from Traviss-era books.

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#1768: Mar 8th 2021 at 5:03:21 PM

Actually, I think that was a great moment showing how it presumably did work when the Jedi came to take Force-sensitive children away from their parents. It was absolutely optional, but the parents allowed it because they knew it was for the best for their children.

And if the parents said no? Then the Jedi would have respectfully left. Grogu's situation was weirder because he was being hunted by the Remnant, so it wasn't as much of a choice, but still.

Krory Since: Aug, 2012
#1769: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:03:34 PM

People also way overestimate how often it happened. Pre-empire, there were about 10000 Jedi. There are thousands of inhabited worlds in the GFFA. The Jedi coming to claim a youngling was a like once-in-a-generation event.

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#1770: Mar 8th 2021 at 6:51:36 PM

It probably also helps that the Mandalorian made it clear that if a force-sensitive isn't trained, the skill eventually goes away or stagnates. If a kid is overlooked or the parents say no, the worst that happens (most of the time) is that the kid just doesn't become proficient in the force. And if the Jedi show up early enough, the kid never finds out what they missed.

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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#1771: Mar 8th 2021 at 8:59:24 PM

This gets into general Star Wars fanfic territory, but I now have this idea of the ancient Sith stalking Jedi scouting out potential younglings and, after the parents said "No thanks" and the Jedi peacefully left, the Sith would swoop in, murder the family and take the kids.

And thus started the in-universe rumor that the Jedi kidnap children.

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Edited by God_of_Awesome on Mar 8th 2021 at 8:59:53 AM

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#1772: Mar 8th 2021 at 11:14:26 PM

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Edited by jakobitis on Mar 8th 2021 at 7:14:44 PM

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#1773: Mar 9th 2021 at 2:00:01 PM

According to Deadline, a shareholder questioned Disney CEO Bob Chapek about Gina Carno's firing, insinuating a Double Standard of:

"co-stars Pedro Pascal and Gina Carano both controversially referenced Nazi Germany in social media comments but only she was removed. “What about the Disney blacklist?” [the shareholder] asked."

Bob's response, generally speaking, responded by citing that the company is non-partisan.

He also put to bed the "rumor" of series co-producer Kathleen Kennedy being replaced by Dave Filoni or Jon Favreau, cited by another investor, claiming:

“We’ve been absolutely thrilled that we can have the kind of talent like Kathy Kennedy to direct Lucasfilm… We look forward to having Kathleen Kennedy running the Lucasfilm organization for many years to come.”

Not gonna lie, it's rather bizarre to hear The Fandom Menace rhetoric coming out of people with monetary stakes in a company.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Mar 9th 2021 at 5:23:55 AM

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#1774: Mar 9th 2021 at 10:16:49 PM

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I mean, if you look at some rich people and the shit they believe in and support, it's not that surprising.

Also, what Double Standard? Pascal compared the American far-right to the Nazis, while Carano compared them (and therefore herself) to the victims of Nazism.

If you look at the conduct of the far-right in America, I'm not sure how those comparisons are in any way "equal".

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Mar 9th 2021 at 7:23:32 PM

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#1775: Mar 10th 2021 at 4:46:30 AM

[up][up] There's something particularly silly about suggesting the company should replace Kennedy by effectively Kicking Upstairs Filoni or Favreau, two people who clearly have exactly the jobs they should have right now.


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