The Boys (2019 Amazon series)

Especially in a series like this, if you had the ability to de-age people why wouldn't you market that shiz for buku bucks.

Edited by Eagal on Jun 4th 2022 at 12:55:42 PM

Probably because you're either keeping it for yourself and your billion dollar clients or it kills 99 out of 100.

Finished episode 3.

Ooof. So many bad choices here.

The Deep treally needs to learn that he’s not happy around people. Considering the only times he is happy is with sea life, and he usually ruins it.

I'm all for the Deep staying away from people. Then he can't do what he did to Starlight again.

Or you know, be forced to eat something he knows is begging for its life.

It's really the best scenario for all concerned.... besides him going to jail.

I am genuinely curious if the Deep can talk to animals or if he's hallucinating them being able to speak.

Because...it can go either way with Compound V.

It's pretty clear he can talk to them and, in some way most likely command them as well (or maybe they just find him really charming). In fact, that's been his most important and plot relevant ability.

Is it weird I want to try some of the food at Maeve's Inclusive Kingdom?

I feel like I have legit seen a burger but with donuts as the buns before.

Ah the good old Luther Burger

Full pound burger patty covered in cheese, grilled onion, 5 strips of bacon, all sandwiched between 2 Krispy Kreme donuts.

Vought stole Robert's idea? Have they no shame?

Well we all know the answer to that!

Now I'm picturing Stan Edgar and Ed Wuncler Sr in the same room together. Not sure if that would be amazing or amazingly bad...

Would they also get on dodgeball games?

I feel like Stan makes some really damn good fried chicken and meth, so I don't think his business dealings would go south.

I'm pretty sure the writers pitch their grossest scenes, and then try to look for a story that can fit them all together. Episode 1 was just ridiculous.

Regarding The Deep being treated more sympathetically, honestly...I mean, what he did in season 1 was incredibly repulsive, no question, but as a human being who does not support the death penalty, if he truly tries to make amends (the total moron that he is) and keeps being shat upon more and more, then I think that I would not be opposed to him being at least redeemed in part. Not in a "Starlight forgives him" way because yuck but in a "becomes a character who truly tries to do what's best".

I find quite a few parallels between him and Jaime Lannister. Both characters committed their most heinous actions in the first episode of the first season, then suffered a brutal Humiliation Conga...but when we were around season 4-5, I'm pretty certain that back then many Game of Thrones fans were rooting for Jaime to be redeemed (either by heroic sacrifice or by ending with Brienne) and were super mad that he ended up back with Cersei. And what he did (attempted murder and spine breaking of a ten year old) is to me even worse than Deep's rape.

Especially as he's the one character who might have a genuine reason to turn face if the show starts talking about climate change and/or denial.

My view on the Deep and A-Train is they're people who were destroyed by Voight who could have been good versus Homelander who is so evil that there's no beginning to him being anything else than what he is.

So they're very humanized evil but still very evil.

But I also disbelieve the premise. The Deep should find himself geting a comedy special on Netflix and have huge numbers of defenders asking when he'll be let back on the Seven.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 5th 2022 at 6:53:46 AM

The thing with both Deep and A-Train is that it's not super clear whether they actually WANT to reform/atone or just become popular again and be perceived as forgiven.

A-Train actually taking up his brothers offer and helping train/inspire poorer kids could be his moment to realise what being an example ACTUALLY IS instead of his misguided tribal nonsense. Deep on the other end seems to be going the opposite direction and making bad decisions one after the other trying to please people without ever actually being truly sorry.

Its a fine line that the writers are handling well. For now.

Its rather impressive how much depth they both have when in the original comic A-Train was a one-note rapist and Deep had absolutely none, the only character bit being the Boys laughing at his ridiculous costume.

Also, the Deep getting mocked for his costume also is Hilarious in Hindsight since its the single most memorable one save Love Sausage.

It will be interesting if A-Train, whose most heinous act was actually accidental, does not end up reforming, while Deep, whose most heinous act was voluntary, does.

Deep's actions so far have always been taken because he wanted to feel loved by humans in a way. At first like something of a bro/sex symbol (hence rape), then in a cult, then in a couple, now back with the Seven in a more humble way...he was rightfully kicked out of the Seven, but after that, absolutely no one ever extended a hand towards him without ulterior motives. While he is still incredibly stupid and naive, his recent actions seem to also be taken to please others - mostly his wife, but also Homelander and even Starlight (no matter how dumb it is). And even if that's a joke, he's always shown having great relationships with marine life.

A-Train meanwhile does have people (his brother and his family) who actually try to look out for him and care about him. But he looks (to me) less likely to reform because he is never showed to care about anyone except for himself.

Yes, accidental. Who could forget the time that A-train accidentally shoved a dozen needles into his girlfriend's arm to force her to OD because she told Butcher about his involvement with trafficking Compound V.

I believe they are talking about him killing Hughie's girlfriend by accident and being completely remorseless about it.

I feel like quoting Game of Thrones here. If you're looking for redemption, it's not that kind of story.

Oddly, I think the closest A-train ever got to feeling remorse was when he was accusing Hughie of killing his girlfriend as revenge, which was Insane Troll Logic. However, it at least gets his acknowledgement he knows how heinous it was.

Edited by CharlesPhipps on Jun 5th 2022 at 4:07:21 AM

Yeah, I meant that. A-Train shares with Homelander a complete Never My Fault attitude with strong It's All About Me shades, except he is not powerful enough to avoid having to deal with the consequences of his sociopathy.

Edited by Bexlerfu on Jun 5th 2022 at 5:18:57 PM