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Eh, outing a cop report doesn't seem wise in most circumstances, as it makes you prime target for the mafia.
On the other hand, faking a cop report just seems dumb, it just seems like an invitation to get yourself outed when the real cop shows up.
Edited by Afterwards on Jul 12th 2019 at 9:10:49 AM
Eh, that's actually the prime strategy for this setup in the source game.
Think of it this way: if you step forward as the cop D1 and no mafia claims against you, depending on the report you automatically can assume that you have one "clear" or innocent person and can exclude them from voting. That's 1/3 of the town not including yourself and GS. It helps for everyone to know even if you die next night.
If you got a mafia report, waiting until you know who both of them before outing are seems like a very bad idea in this case. Because if you don't say who's mafia straight away, you could:
A: die next night without anyone knowing what you investigated. Worst case scenario, because it only results in a random lynch or autowin.
B: survive the next day with both mafia alive, but lose anything from 1-2 townies depending on if you lynched someone or not. Gives the mafia an obvious advantage just by numbers.
Getting a mafia report the first day, clearly the best option is to out it. If no one counterclaims, you're free to lynch the mafia. If the mafia counterclaims after you, they'll look suspicious and be voted against, especially if they counter with a mafia report on you. Win-win scenario.
On the other hand, if you're mafia and you claim to be cop D1:
A: the real cop counterclaims, the town votes between both of you. The real cop is lynched, the threat is gone. Mafia gains advantage even if you're found out the next day.
B: the real cop doesn't counterclaim, the town thinks you're cop. You win.
C: the real cop counterclaims, the town votes between both of you. You're lynched, but your partner kills the cop the next night and therefore still has a chance to win the game in a 4-way.
Sorry for the wall of text, but basically that's what I meant to say. Remember, the town almost always has no way of knowing who's the real cop and who's bluffing if you claim.
Hmm... I guess you're right. I was thinking about it in terms of bigger/longer games where the wrong move early on can spell out your doom down the road. But in smaller games like this these strategies do seem pretty good.
And of course, trying to subtly out a report through indirect means will only get you shot [sic]
Edited by Afterwards on Jul 12th 2019 at 9:53:01 AM
Yeah, on average (at least from what I've seen, my personal play count is barely 1000 games) these games only last about 3-4 ingame days.
Edited by unfortunatezorua on Jul 12th 2019 at 9:53:04 PM
Back in the old days when I played mafia on these forums we'd sometimes get games with up to 15 people lol, it was wild. So I'm trying to get used to smaller games, but it's fun nonetheless
I'm also used to bigger games - most mafia games I've played on other forums usually had something between 12-16 players a game and a bunch of other roles - this has certainly been different, but still fun.
Edited by Zanreo on Jul 12th 2019 at 4:03:24 PM
True, there are plenty of 12-16 player setups from Epicmafia too (and most of them I could use here), but there aren't nearly that many users here who'd want to participate. And even now we've had trouble just getting to 7, unfortunately.
I think the Werewolf thread was actually fairly active. It's been years since then, though.
Edited by unfortunatezorua on Jul 12th 2019 at 10:05:05 PM
RIP my masks game T_T
and yeah the ones we had here back in the day sometimes had a lot of roles too, there was some crazy up the wall ones. I remember when i ran a homestuck-themed one....
A homestuck themed one does sound like fun and I shot you because I suspected you were either the cop or someone the cop was using to stay hidden because you were exactly right about me being maffia and I was honestly expecting Taco to have to throw me under the bus during the voting.
Anyway I'm signing up again
3 more slots left.
OK i wasnt sure if that was the case or you were just shooting me in retaliation for targeting you lol
Yeah i had investigated you the night before and i was like oop here we go
Edited by Afterwards on Jul 13th 2019 at 5:46:36 AM
So I figured with Behind The Masks getting successful games recently, I might as well try to bring Mafia back for a new round. New players can refer to the first post as usual.
Seems like we could have enough potential people to use 12-player setups, but I'll give this one a re-run first. A brief test, if you will.
Guns 'n Hookers Signups
Edited by unfortunatezorua on May 22nd 2020 at 7:12:28 PM
me pick me
I'll take another swing!
I think I'll try this.
I'll go for next round, well, the round after the upcoming one.
Edited by AutisticAlivia on May 22nd 2020 at 4:01:57 AM
Sooo just to confirm you're not signing up for this game?
I'd like to sign up, alright? But there's only three spots left.
Oh okay I'll add you. Two spots left.
Oh, oh, oh, oh... they were asking... before.
Yeah I dunno either.
Anyone else want to join?
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