So Bad, It's Horrible is one of the more flame-bait-y parts of the site, so a cleanup thread is needed to ensure that works aren't added simply because someone doesn't like them.
If you want to list a work under this, keep the following in mind:
- The work must have very few fans or defenders (both genuine and ironic). It should fail to appeal to any type of audience.
- Being offensive in its subject matter isn't enough.
- It isn't horrible just because a certain critic disliked it, though their reviews can be used as sources and citations.
- The work should have notably poor reviews (e.g., less than 3/10 on IMDb, or single digit scores on Rotten Tomatoes)
- Please be polite while writing and as much as possible, avoid falling into Complaining About Shows You Don't Like. Instead, focus on explaining why the work is horrible.
Edited by Someoneman on Nov 28th 2022 at 8:58:17 AM
Don't know Portuguese and therefore can't tell whether it's negative or positive, but this video essay on Nipper I found may help decide.
SP00PY month!So someone in the Animated Film discussions thinks that we should reconsider the banning of Foodfight!. The reason why it isn't listed is because some people apparently find it So Bad, It's Good or So OK, It's Average... except the Tv Tropes YMMV page is the only place that says that and almost all sources on the internet genuinely hate it. Thoughts?
SP00PY month!It has perhaps the most unanimous Imdb page I've ever seen. All reviews are 1's or 2's. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0249516/reviews?ref_=m_tt_urv
We should seriously consider lifting the ban on adding it.
SP00PY month!I think that'd make sense, even a SBIH work can have fans, so...
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessPersonally, if we can’t find proof that people like it, add it.
“Now! Let us engage in the art of deduction!”So a couple days after awesomereesee posted here, she commented the Midori Shoujo Tsubaki entry back in on the Horrible.Animeand Manga subpage, even though it was commented out twice in the past for focusing entirely on the offensive content (which violates rule #2). Sigh...
The Fifth Generation video game section REALLY needs to be cleaned up IMO. "ECW: Hardcore Revolution" was never considered a horrible game. Just a blatant reskinning of WWF Attitude that failed to take advantage of the ECW license (IGN, for example, gave it a 5/10 - which is just mediocre rather than bad). Likewise, I remember deleting Daikatana from the list a while back but it was re-added for some reason. Read the reviews that were published upon release, and you'll find that most of them were merely So Okay, It's Average. There was even a fan-made patch released a few months back that G Man Lives says improves the game dramatically (ie. makes it far less broken). There are a number of other examples, but those are the two that stick out most to me. Also, given that Superman 64 WAS a commercial success, doesn't it violate the rule that entries on this page must be both critical and commercial failures? Also, Daikatana actually did okay commercially, selling around 200,000 copies IIRC.
Edited by MartyD82 on Aug 21st 2019 at 8:48:47 AM
Daikatana was not a commercial success in the slightest. It was projected to sell 2.5 million copies and only sold 40,351 copies in its first year. While Superman 64 did sell well at first, they dropped considerably once word of mouth got out and is almost universally hated by critics and audiences alike.
However, I’m not sure about including the Play Station Classic here. While it was a commercial failure, the actual reviews, including the ones linked in the entry itself, were more mediocre than scathing. Additionally, it has acquired a decent-sized hacking community.
I know it also has an eh set of games. Doesn't it have to have something severely wrong with the work in itself, not just simply "I expected more" as a thing? Cause looking at it, what makes it all that horrible beyond not selling well? The controls don't do well(like lots of input lag), are the graphics glitchy(I mean, naturally they're outdated).
Could you post the entry in itself?
...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.The entry reads:
- Sony's Playstation Classic was their attempt to cash in on the hype Nintendo generated with their NES and SNES Classic microconsoles, but is a grave disappointment in nearly all respects. The disappointing lineup of games can perhaps be forgiven due to licensing issues that would prevent Sony from bringing on their killer apps like Crash Bandicoot, but a litany of design issues ruin the experience, from the lack of analog sticks on the controllers (a particularly puzzling decision, considering Sony's own Dualshock controller design is so ubiquitous that even their competitors borrow from its design) to several games running at 50Hz, making them display poorly on NTSC televisions that run on 60Hz. The higher MSRP in comparison to Nintendo's microconsoles, combined with a lack of an AC adapter (owners need to get their own), does it no favors. IGN called it "more like a halfhearted nod than a top-shelf tribute", while the review on Tom's Guide is subtitled "Live in your world, just don't play in this one."
Okay, with what you said in mind, it does sound like the entry is overselling it as bad, and it's more "could be better".
Was this originally approved by the thread to be put up?
...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.Awesomereesee is Edit Warring AGAIN. I told her to read Edit War. This is her final warning...
SP00PY month!Please link the article she's edit warring in. :)
Edited by Irene on Aug 21st 2019 at 5:40:52 AM
...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.It's animated films.
SP00PY month!Well, here's a quicker link for the Moderation.
If it persists, Ask The Tropers is another good place to bring it up. :)
Actually, I'll bring it there as is. Thanks for noting the Edit War regardless.
Edited by Irene on Aug 21st 2019 at 6:24:30 AM
...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.Horrible.Advertising has A huge folder of general examples. I don't want to remove all the information, so how do we make it work?
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessI thought I pointed that out earlier...
Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!Did you?
So you did... Yeah, let's finish that discussion.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAaand Reesee's response to my DM to her telling her that she could get banned for edit warring is the very cryptic "i will escape".
SP00PY month!Tell the mods. Mention this on ATT.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessHow do I do an ATT? Pardon me for being stupid, I'm still sorta new.
SP00PY month!I made the ATT. To clarify on sharing PM's, a rule we have, don't actually post the PM. Just give a general gist.
If you want to make a separate ATT, go to Ask The Tropers, and click the words that actually say "Ask The Tropers". Everything else is available among its menus.
Also, it's probably worth giving you a quick link to Text-Formatting Rules too. :)
Edited by Irene on Aug 21st 2019 at 9:06:22 AM
...It's weird having so many websites and no way to properly display now, lol.
Also, later ads fall into What Were They Selling Again? territory. Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80lVwF_6Ql8
It's pronounced makh-ZOO-ee.