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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#51: Oct 4th 2019 at 2:46:56 PM

Generally posting articles from sites known to be untrustworthy is frowned upon, so it’s going to get an appropriate response regardless.

Getting semantic about whether you yourself said it was true doesn’t change the fact that you presented it as news.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 4th 2019 at 2:47:52 AM

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#52: Oct 5th 2019 at 5:23:18 PM

Fair enough, i honestly didn't know of their reputation.

Just saw the article and posted it because we don't have much else to talk about.

Also i like Joe Fixit so it may have gotten my hopes up.

Edited by Cortez on Oct 6th 2019 at 4:52:42 AM

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JoLuRo075 Since: Jan, 2019
#53: Oct 8th 2019 at 6:10:36 AM

I wonder who will be the main antagonist of the Loki series?

Initially I thought was going to be Amora, but as Thor 4 is already confirmed, they will most likely decide to save her for Thor 4.

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#54: Oct 8th 2019 at 7:24:55 AM

Maybe. One of the fun things about time travel is that it's possible to have time travel from different sources work with different rules, as long as those sources are clearly and suitably differentiated.

I like to say it's exactly like writing magic. Magic A must equal Magic A, so if you want to introduce something different you have to distinctly introduce Magic B instead.

It's like the comics. In the comics, time travel creates a parallel timeline. Except when it doesn't. This is determined by whatever's more convenient for the story a given writer is trying to tell.

Also, overuse of time travel broke time.

That doesn't actually mean anything but some writers feel it's important to remind people every now and then that they broke time.

Edited by TobiasDrake on Oct 8th 2019 at 8:25:27 AM

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#55: Oct 8th 2019 at 9:48:18 AM

Bottomline, time travel just suck as a plot device in terms of comic book stories, be it comics, TV series or movies. It's just sooo done to death and ALWAYS creates major inconsistencies.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#56: Oct 8th 2019 at 9:54:33 AM

I don't think inconsistencies matter all that much, as long as the story itself is good. Look at Doctor Who — time travel is baked into the premise of the show and it's used so many different "rules" of time travel that it's completely inconsistent over the years, but that doesn't stop the show from being good or fun or from using time travel in an interesting manner (see: "Blink").

Endgame, I believe, had a good enough story that you could handwave the time travel inconsistencies. Agents of SHIELD is another story, as the story itself kind of depended on the rules of time travel and finding out what they were, but I think it worked (kind of).

Season 7, on the other hand, seems to be using time travel in a way that is different from Season 5 — using it more as a way to changing settings, to move from time period to time period — and this, I think, means it's less about "time travel" and more about the story of SHIELD itself and the characters. Especially since this will be it's last season. I'm anticipating an Endgame-like use of time travel where, instead of traveling back to previous seasons, they are traveling through various SHIELD eras and we'll see the characters do a ton of fun stuff and character studies. Or at least I hope they will.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#57: Oct 8th 2019 at 10:22:31 AM

Helstrom is going forward and here is it's full cast.

Tom Austen (Grantchester, The Royals) as Daimon Helstrom – A professor of ethics who moonlights as an exorcist, Daimon has no illusions about saving a world he has no patience for; he just hopes he can help a few of the people closest to him. In his battle against a hidden world, Daimon is determined to root out demons as they arise, and will not stop until they’re vanquished.

Sydney Lemmon (Fear of The Walking Dead) as Ana Helstrom – By day, Ana runs a successful auction house and suffers no fools, but her true interest lies in hunting down those who hurt others. Traumatized by her father as a child, Ana is driven to rid the world of those like him, even as she secretly worries her father will return.

Elizabeth Marvel (Homeland, The Meyerowitz Stories) as Victoria Helstrom – Plagued by demons both real and imagined, Victoria has been institutionalized for twenty years. While she struggles to be herself, she hopes to repair her relationship with her children.

Robert Wisdom (Ballers, Watchmen) as Caretaker – Caretaker is a guardian of knowledge of the occult. He uses his knowledge and his relationship with Ana to help keep demonic forces at bay.

June Carryl (Mindhunter, Dead Women Walking) as Dr. Louise Hastings – A psychologist with a strong faith but an open mind, Hastings is head of the psychiatric hospital where Victoria is being monitored. She has watched over the Helstrom family for years, caring for them as best she can.

Ariana Guerra (Raising Dion, Insatiable) as Gabriella Rosetti – A woman balancing logic and faith, Gabriella arrives from the Vatican to help Daimon and Hastings uncover cases of demonic possession. She wants to save everyone she can, including Daimon.

Alain Uy (The Passage, Paper Tigers) as Chris Yen – Yen is Ana’s business partner and her closest friend — some would say surrogate brother. He carries out the bulk of the auction house’s responsibilities and assists Ana with whatever she needs.

I find it super interesting that, in addition to Daimon and Ana (who is Satana in the comics), they are including Louise Hastings, who was a member of the Darkhold Redeemers in the comics, and they are including Caretaker.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 8th 2019 at 10:29:59 AM

Cortez Since: May, 2009
#58: Oct 14th 2019 at 4:37:41 AM

I wonder why they changed Satana's name. Did they think it was too on the nose?

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#59: Oct 15th 2019 at 12:41:39 PM

According to Deadline, it sounds like Feige is gaining control to more than just Marvel films now.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#61: Oct 22nd 2019 at 9:41:21 AM

If true, it will be great to see Liv as Betty again.

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#62: Oct 22nd 2019 at 12:13:38 PM

True, TIH really needs more acknowledgement in the broader MCU.

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Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#63: Oct 22nd 2019 at 12:47:51 PM

This article details a bit of interesting stuff that happened and is happening at Marvel Entertainment. Also, Jeph Loeb may leave his position as head of Marvel Television in the coming weeks and may start a new deal with another company.

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#64: Oct 24th 2019 at 4:10:16 PM

I might be wrong about this, but who else feels that they're just entirely tanking Marvel TV so they can shoehorn everyone into the movies? Which is the biggest mistake they could ever make, because not all heroes are cut out for the movies. Some do better with self-contained stories that are not bogged down by constantly reminding us that they're part of a larger universe. The Netflix shows and Cloak and Dagger are perfect demonstrations of this.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#65: Oct 24th 2019 at 4:14:19 PM

Cloak and Dagger has been cancelled.

[up] They have a bunch of Marvel TV shows premiering on Disney+, though, so they aren't tanking anything.

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#66: Oct 24th 2019 at 4:19:15 PM

I hope Marvel Studios realizes that now that they're cancelling all their TV shows, that every single one of their shows (save for Inhumans) is better than the entirety of the MCU.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#67: Oct 24th 2019 at 4:38:30 PM

They haven't cancelled Runaways and Helstrom is still coming out.

Also, Agents of SHIELD wasn't cancelled, it is just coming to an end.

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#68: Oct 24th 2019 at 5:33:36 PM

There is a reason why Marvel TV stans are so bitter. Especially when MCU stans are like "any character who's in a TV show doesn't matter cause they weren't in the movies". Marvel needs to start caring about their TV shows more because people love them and they have to see that.

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Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#69: Oct 24th 2019 at 11:34:26 PM

Cloak and Dagger cancelled? After the superb second season? Lame.

Well at least they'll appear in Runaways.

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32ndfreeze from Australia Since: Mar, 2012
#70: Oct 25th 2019 at 12:27:03 AM

That really really sucks.

Cloak and Dagger was my favorite of the Marvel shows, even if I recognize most of the Netflix ones are better from a non biased POV.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#71: Oct 25th 2019 at 5:44:15 AM

Cloak and Dagger has been cancelled.

...you have got to be kidding me.

I meant to come back to that.

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djoki996 Since: Dec, 2018
#72: Oct 25th 2019 at 2:21:47 PM

Disney+ Marvel shows will be better connected to the movies than the other Marvel shows were, right?

Forenperser Foreign Troper from Germany Since: Mar, 2012
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#73: Oct 25th 2019 at 10:39:26 PM

Presumably, yeah.

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Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#74: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:38:24 AM

At the very least, because they will likely have similar production cycles as the movies that will make coordination a lot easier.

We do know the plan is for WandaVision to lead directly into Doctor Stange in the Multiverse of Madness and Ms. Marvel was announced as a character who would be introduced in the shows before moving on to the movies.

I'm not too worried about continuity lockout in either of the above cases since they could have Scarlet Witch intentionally seek out Doctor Strange and then simply tell him why she did. And in doing so summarize the relevant points of her show for the audience.

And with Ms. Marvel, Civil War established that Marvel is willing to just drop in a new superhero like what they did with both Black Panther and Spider-Man. So I expect a similar approch.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#75: Oct 27th 2019 at 8:44:39 AM

[up] I also expect them to do a quick recap of Ms. Marvel's origins when she gets her own movie, since unlike Spider-Man, her origins aren't as well known.

I also hope that they keep her Inhuman, because I really want to see her and Lockjaw interact (and with more CGI money, hopefully she can actually hug Lockjaw instead of never touching him like they did in the show). It will be interesting to see if they introduce the Inhuman Royal Family again, either ignoring the events of the show or just quietly sweeping them under the rug.


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